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    Quote Originally Posted by Deniz Camp View Post
    It'll be the same deal, probably, but his one creator owned thing is already through Vertigo. Assuming he's happy with that, he could well stay there.
    I'd love him to do some image work, but if he created cool stuff for Vertigo I don't have a problem with that (other than the ads).
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    Creator owned is creator owned, qualitatively. As long as the creators are happy, I'm happy.

    There are a few benefits to working with Vertigo - you're salaried (cash advance), you don't have to do the editorial work, and these days you have a more direct pipeline for tv/film optioning (via New Line). You really get to focus on your work as a writer.

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    Happy to see Kinf staying at DC, even though I love his Vision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally West View Post
    Is Tom King really a good successor on the batman books after legendary runs by G Morrison and Scott Snyder? Does he have the chops?
    His run probably won't be as wildly successful as Sndyer's commercially, but it will almost certainly be better.
    Buh-bye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally West View Post
    Is Tom King really a good successor on the batman books after legendary runs by G Morrison and Scott Snyder? Does he have the chops?
    As huge fans of both Morrison and Snyder, I'd say he has more than enough chops. Check out his work. It's fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by penthotal View Post
    F**k no, I loved The Vision
    +1 Hopefully, it's in the contract, that he can finish that out, assuming it ends/or his end, is at #12. I don't see Dc wanting it to prolong pass that. Congrats to King, but it's bittersweet, because Vision is an Amazing book.

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    King was contracted for 12 issues of The Vision. I doubt that will (or even can) change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally West View Post
    Is Tom King really a good successor on the batman books after legendary runs by G Morrison and Scott Snyder? Does he have the chops?
    I prefer his work of either of the other two (and I like both).
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    I haven't read much by King, but even I hear such good word of mouth about him that I think he will deliver the goods on Batman. (And if Snyder is on Tec, then Batman fans will have a dynamic duo of writers churning out quality stories)

    Gone might be the days when the Batman title was quality and Detective Comics was treated like mostly nothing with forgettable stories. (I mean if it wasn't Dini or Snyder, Detective was just nothing really worth reading)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deniz Camp View Post
    Creator owned is creator owned, qualitatively. As long as the creators are happy, I'm happy.

    There are a few benefits to working with Vertigo - you're salaried (cash advance), you don't have to do the editorial work, and these days you have a more direct pipeline for tv/film optioning (via New Line). You really get to focus on your work as a writer.
    on image they don't need to do editorial work if they don't want and have money. There is more money that returns, Rights fot tV and cinema are much better than vertigo.
    No wonder majority is working for Image.

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    King's BATMAN will be much, much richer than Synder's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tayswift View Post
    on image they don't need to do editorial work if they don't want and have money. There is more money that returns, Rights fot tV and cinema are much better than vertigo.
    No wonder majority is working for Image.
    I'm getting the sense that you don't know how it works at Image. "There is more money that returns" is only true assuming you sell a certain amount, that you have a certain name. Certainly you get a greater percentage of profit than you do at Vertigo, but 70% of 10 bucks isn't much.

    Image requires a lot of investment and a lot of risk. If you have the fanbase to sustain a book, then you're golden - guys like Scott Snyder, John Hickman, etc are all doing brilliantly. But if you don't have that kind of fanbase yet - if you're still building - then you could well lose money. Especially if you're paying a page rate to your artists out of pocket, and especially of those artists are 'big' names. Add in an editor you're paying up front, add in colorists and letterers, add in logo and design...that's a HUGE investment.

    Again, once you're established, it's clearly the best option. But there is arithmetic to be done.

    Likewise, TV and Cinema doesn't just happen. It has to be negotiated and sold. To get your best deal, it helps to have someone with connections and with know how -- which is why many get an agent. Companies like BOOM and VERTIGO and ONI have people who do that work for you.
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    Great news for Tom King, great news for DC, and--if King is the next writer on Batman--then great news for Batman, too. Bad news, of course, for Marvel and The Vision comic, which was the best titles out of the "All-New, All-Different" relaunch.
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    John Timms is a good artist with great potential. Clay Mann is a fantastic artist, Poison Ivy book looks gorgeous. And, of course, Tom King, i'm sure he will continue to deliver amazing stories like Omega Men.
    I hope Steve Orlando, Rob Williams, Mark Russell, Mikel Janin and Jason Fabok are getting exclusives too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by penthotal View Post
    F**k no, I loved The Vision
    Yeah, while I'm happy King is going to benefit professionally... This hurts, a lot.

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