Wonder Woman Villains Sightings

[PopQuezy]

Edit: Honestly I'm hoping most of what happened to Wonder Woman villains (or what are alluded to doing to other heroes as you mentioned) in Future State is not used... Circe and Grail where alright in the Nubia comic though.

I wouldn't mind if Hypnotic Woman joined the Suicide Squad.

[I'm a Fish]

I wouldn't mind if Hypnotic Woman joined the Suicide Squad.

Yeah, she's never used so I'd be alright with that.

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just don't have Circe rape Superman, or have anyone rape Superman...

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[Mistah K88]

Not sure if this was mentioned earlier in this thread circa the Future State stuff, but Circe is being alluded to in the current Superman direction

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The House of El introduces a future son of Clark's that he had with Circe, after she used "deception." Sounds like a whole can of worms that I'm not sure how to feel about. I really only want to see Circe involved with the Super mythos if she's zapping Clark's head into a lion or creating Comet the Super Horse, so it sounding like she rapes Clark to get a child being the thing they bring her in for is...less than stellar. Aside from the whole Jon as Superman thing, this is the only part of the direction for the Super books I'm not getting positive vibes from. Hopefully it's a very minor part or Circe is actually used well. Maybe have Diana brought in, again, if she will be used well

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Eww.

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What is the obsession with female rapists and having babies recently? Is it a way to absolve the male superheroes of responsibility when a child pops up out of nowhere? Also why Circe and for what? She isn't THAT bored

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[I'm a Fish]

Eww.

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What is the obsession with female rapists and having babies recently? Is it a way to absolve the male superheroes of responsibility when a child pops up out of nowhere? Also why Circe and for what? She isn't THAT bored

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Circe has garnered an reputation for being a female predator throughout her real-world history. She has been known to lure and drug men so she can turn them into animals in the Odyssey after all (which Renaissance artists depicted as a metaphor for something else...) but that part of her character has been more-or-less left out in the comics. Superman already has Maxima creeping on him from time to time, he really doesn't need anyone else.

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[SiegePerilous02]

I'm hoping nothing substantial comes of it in the present day stories, and it's just something to embellish the far off future we see occasionally.

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I think they are going for an Arthurian thing, with Clark being Arthur and Circe being a stand in for Morgane. But surely there is some Silver or Bronze age Superman spellcaster villainess that could fill that role if it's something that needs to be filled?

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There is also the fact that Conrad and Cloonan are writing back up stories on the Super books, so they may have been consulted on this and we may at least see something from Circe's perspective in the WW books if and when she shows up. That could make it an easier pill to swallow.

[Gaius]

I'm hoping nothing substantial comes of it in the present day stories, and it's just something to embellish the far off future we see occasionally.

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I think they are going for an Arthurian thing, with Clark being Arthur and Circe being a stand in for Morgane. But surely there is some Silver or Bronze age Superman spellcaster villainess that could fill that role if it's something that needs to be filled?

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There is also the fact that Conrad and Cloonan are writing back up stories on the Super books, so they may have been consulted on this and we may at least see something from Circe's perspective in the WW books if and when she shows up. That could make it an easier pill to swallow.

Yeah, House of El stuff comes off as a bit off putting but hopefully we get some Circe in their run. She was pretty enjoyable in JLD.

[marhawkman]

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Circe has garnered an reputation for being a female predator throughout her real-world history. She has been known to lure and drug men so she can turn them into animals in the Odyssey after all (which Renaissance artists depicted as a metaphor for something else...) but that part of her character has been more-or-less left out in the comics. Superman already has Maxima creeping on him from time to time, he really doesn't need anyone else.

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Has it though? I mean.. we know what happened with Ares... One could argue that... yes, actually, that aspect of the character IS used in the comics, albeit less often.

[WonderLight789]

I'm hoping nothing substantial comes of it in the present day stories, and it's just something to embellish the far off future we see occasionally.

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I think they are going for an Arthurian thing, with Clark being Arthur and Circe being a stand in for Morgane. But surely there is some Silver or Bronze age Superman spellcaster villainess that could fill that role if it's something that needs to be filled?

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There is also the fact that Conrad and Cloonan are writing back up stories on the Super books, so they may have been consulted on this and we may at least see something from Circe's perspective in the WW books if and when she shows up. That could make it an easier pill to swallow.

Oh, so more stories where WW villains jobb to Superman are probably coming?

[I'm a Fish]

Oh, so more stories where WW villains jobb to Superman are probably coming?

You know WW villains have the winning track record on Sups right?

I think the only Wondy villain to loose to Sups was Apollo.

[SiegePerilous02]

Oh, so more stories where WW villains jobb to Superman are probably coming?

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Does it count as jobbing if Superman is the one getting raped?

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And like I'm a Fish said, WW villains have a pretty good record against Superman. It's Batman that's always proven the problem for them.

[Gaius]

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Does it count as jobbing if Superman is the one getting raped?

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And like I'm a Fish said, WW villains have a pretty good record against Superman. It's Batman that's always proven the problem for them.

Reminded of in Jimenez's run where both Supes and Bats ended up under some form of possession/mind control (Phobos for Batman, Circe for Superman) but it was only Bats who managed to do the "fight you're way out it" thing.

[I'm a Fish]

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Does it count as jobbing if Superman is the one getting raped?

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And like I'm a Fish said, WW villains have a pretty good record against Superman. It's Batman that's always proven the problem for them.

DC’s also been petty good since Rebirth about WW villains getting jobbed by other heroes. I think Cheetah and Batman only had 2 encounters these 5 years and both times he had to use a mech suit to engage her. (And I think both times she was distracted fighting WW)

[I'm a Fish]

Reminded of in Jimenez's run where both Supes and Bats ended up under some form of possession/mind control (Phobos for Batman, Circe for Superman) but it was only Bats who managed to do the "fight you're way out it" thing.

And in Trinity didn’t Circe unleash hell demons or something and Superman was the only one to get possessed? Along with the Outlaws.

[Mistah K88]

Oh, so more stories where WW villains jobb to Superman are probably coming?

Superman jobs to Wonder Woman's baddies (well the ones that they actually use anyway)

If you are going to job, you might as well job to the best. I'd rather have Cheetah job to Superman than Catwoman.

[Dr. Poison]

Wonder Woman villains have owned Kryptonians. Circe and Cheetah have bested Superman, Giganta immobilized Power Girl in Infinite Crisis. Sure, it doesn't happen often but hopefully that will change over time now that Diana's villains seem to be getting used more.