Morrison even gave us that team at the end of Multiversity. I like your suggestion of Infinity for the name better than Incarnate though:
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Morrison even gave us that team at the end of Multiversity. I like your suggestion of Infinity for the name better than Incarnate though:
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While I like Grant's writing overall, there are several cases where I'd prefer that someone else take the reins and do something different. Earth-16, for example: I have no interest in reading a book that deliberately emulates the melodrama of soap operas; but I would like to read more stories featuring the Justice League's children and protégés that Morrison based Earth-16 on; so I'd love a series set on Earth-16 that downplays or ignores the “shallow, meaningless lives” aspect of Morrison's “Multiversity: the Just” and instead focuses on them stepping up and becoming heroes that would make their predecessors proud.
Rogue wears rouge.
Angel knows all the angles.
This talk of a team just made me think of something else. What if instead of a team that travels the multiverse and interacts with it, it was one individual or team that observes different events in the multiverse with some type of device that detects events that should be observed. Basically the traveler(s) would arrive on the earth in question and then uncover what was detected in the time stream that needed to be seen but would not actively interact with it. Just observe Maybe they have tech that keeps them invisible or something. Basically it would open up the possibility to tell stories on any of the earths and see what type of reaction the earth is given by readers.
Something like the Guardians of the UNiverse only it would be multiverse and instead of soldiers who keep the peace, they are observers?
We already have comic book readers, thank you.
Rogue wears rouge.
Angel knows all the angles.
Someone else asked what else has not sold well. Are we talking out of continuity books like All-Star Superman, Watchmen (and prequels), and Dark Knight Returns (and sequels?)? What I can add is that of the original nu52 books, only 11 made it to the present. Of those 11, five have been published for the past 75 years. Three more have been nearly regular for over 50 years. Most stuff doesn't sell well. The fact that Earth 2 has been given a Rebirth opportunity despite multiple new directions and some really horrible writing speaks to that book's audience.
Really? Did New 52's Blue Beetle sell better than DCYou's Prez? And how are you confirming that, say, Bat-Mite's poor showing was from its poor fit with continuity? (as opposed to, say, Bat-Mite not being someone that most people are interested in reading about.)
Rogue wears rouge.
Angel knows all the angles.
Of the four non-Convergence series you mentioned, do you really believe that "not fitting into the main continuity" was a primary reason people did or did not read those books?
As for Convergence, yeah, not mattering to the current continuity probably hurt sales of that as opposed to DC's previous and subsequent series. Copies of the main series still sold at least 100,000, though. And I doubt the 40 tie-ins would differ that much from a lot of other new books.
He just says whatever he can to troll. I recommend ignoring him.
I knew when it was first rumored that Convergence wouldn't impact the Earth-0 continuity and I was appalled then and when I read the published stories. It was yet another ridiculous move on the part of DC editorial. They should have had the Earth-0 characters meet the other versions and used that as a main selling point of the series; instead, they created a series that had massive repercussions (undoing of the COIE and 30 years of continuity that followed) and yet it didn't affect the main books at all at the time. It's this kind of editorial disconnect and blatant mismanagement that has brought DC to its current place in the larger scheme of the industry. The problem began long before 2011, though...
Doctor Bifrost
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You're still saying that after Convergence #8, Superman: Lois and Clark, Telos, and the upcoming appearances of Superdad and Parallax in Superman and Green Lantern?
It was a filler event; but it wasn't just a filler event.
That said, it's an irrelevant point. The question isn't whether Convergence was “filler” or “meaningful”; it's about how well it sold, and whether its not-Earth-0 nature is what hurt its sales.
Rogue wears rouge.
Angel knows all the angles.
EDIT
I'm editing out what I wrote here. It was too snarky. It really bugged me when you said that fans talking about things they would like to see that were (in your opinion) things DC wouldn't do for sales reasons were being "pointless and self-destructive," as if there's something the matter with them because their conversation doesn't hold up to your standards of what's important.
But I realize that's just the way you see these things. I'm not going to talk you out of it. Be well.
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Doctor Bifrost
"If Roy G. Bivolo had seen some B&W pencil sketches, his whole life would have turned out differently." http://doctorbifrost.blogspot.com/