When is DC going to actually USE the multiverse?

[superduperman]

Yes, we have things like Earth One and Earth Two (at least for now), but what about all those other worlds they created? The Charlton universe? Or that pulp universe? Or Earth 32, the home of Super-president? Why create these worlds if you're not going to do anything with them? Just for Morrison to play with? I'm sure nobody wants a sequel to Kingdom Come or New Frontiers but there are plenty of "corporate" Earths they could do stuff with. As someone else once said, DC has a problem with letting others play with Morrison's toys but they aren't really his.

[DGraysonWorldsGreatestSpy]

I would love for them to do miniseries on each Earth under Tales of the Multiverse or just pick one of the 7 Earth's Morrison left blank to tell some stories.

[Panfoot]

It would be nice if they just started doing elseworlds stuff again.

[colonyofcells]

The crime syndicate from earth 3 are easy to use on prime earth as villains vs the JL. Once the earth 2 reboot is done, can do a team up with the earth 2 justice society. I would also like to see a earth with legacy JL composed of Dick, Donna, Supergirl, Wally and Kyle.

[Lee Stone]

Multiversity makes me think of one of those situations where a group of friends are hanging out and one of them's clearly not on the same level as the others and keeps getting talked over or ignored.
Part of me hopes that Morrison's tenure as EIC at Heavy Metal will eventually lead to him taking over a regular comic company. That will be interesting.

[Robotman]

I don't think anyone else is allowed to play with Grant's toys.

[LordMikel]

I would love for them to do miniseries on each Earth under Tales of the Multiverse or just pick one of the 7 Earth's Morrison left blank to tell some stories.

I agree, I think this would work. A simple series of miniseries one after another showcasing different worlds.

[Sacred Knight]

They don't seem to learn from their mistakes, so probably never. I mean, Rebirth was the perfect time to do this in regards to bringing back classic concepts...but instead of setting stuff on other Earths, it seems like they want to just jam it all onto the main Earth again. As if clutterearth wasn't already tried and failed. I defend this regime when I feel its warranted, but when it comes to looking at the mistakes of the past and not repeating them, they're pretty dense.

[Ascended]

Well, DC's been using Earth-2 for a while and featured that world in two books and a weekly. Sure, they were terrible but the focus was there.

Justice League has dealt with Earth-3 quite a bit.

I dont see any reason why some of the digital first titles cant be considered a part of the multiverse, like Bombshells and Arrow and Batman 66.

Morrison's Multiversity is getting a sequel.

And there's an Earth-2 book post-Rebirth, and nothing to say that will be the only title set on that world, or that other titles wont be on other worlds. There's a decent chance that Superwoman is going to be about Karen on Earth-2 with a new name (pulling a Carol "Captain Marvel" Danvers style upgrade perhaps) and Super Sons could easily be set on Morrison's The Just earth, or one along those lines.

As I understand it, Justice League 3000/1 isn't set on the main earth.

But odds are DC wont utilize the concept like they should. I feel like they're stills scared of committing the same sin that lead to the first Crisis, while completely ignoring the damage and limitations that clutter-earth created.

[Flash Gordon]

I feel like everything DC has done recently involves the multiverse...

I can't wait to get back to telling stories!

[JackDaw]

They don't seem to learn from their mistakes, so probably never. I mean, Rebirth was the perfect time to do this in regards to bringing back classic concepts...but instead of setting stuff on other Earths, it seems like they want to just jam it all onto the main Earth again. As if clutterearth wasn't already tried and failed. I defend this regime when I feel its warranted, but when it comes to looking at the mistakes of the past and not repeating them, they're pretty dense.

I agree whole heartedly. I really hoped they would de-clutter the main story telling Earth. That was my main "wish"...and I thought there was a remote chance it might happen.

I had 2 other wishes...both of which I thought were unlikely to come about.

First one was to make Superman the only main hero to be able to cross to other Earths to explore them. You know...something to reflect that great characters unique status in comics history.

Second one was to give new Green Arrow on main Earth a semi-sensible power set...maybe wood telekinetic powers, to give some valid reason for a sane character to be going into streets with a bow and arrow. No chance!

[Xon-Ur]

Yes, we have things like Earth One and Earth Two (at least for now), but what about all those other worlds they created? The Charlton universe? Or that pulp universe? Or Earth 32, the home of Super-president? Why create these worlds if you're not going to do anything with them? Just for Morrison to play with? I'm sure nobody wants a sequel to Kingdom Come or New Frontiers but there are plenty of "corporate" Earths they could do stuff with. As someone else once said, DC has a problem with letting others play with Morrison's toys but they aren't really his.

Multiversity makes me think of one of those situations where a group of friends are hanging out and one of them's clearly not on the same level as the others and keeps getting talked over or ignored.
Part of me hopes that Morrison's tenure as EIC at Heavy Metal will eventually lead to him taking over a regular comic company. That will be interesting.

This is what Grant Morrison does. He writes comics with a main storyline, but within that one storyline there are dozens of brilliant concepts that can be used for series that could run for years. His Action run was filled with such concepts. He practically handed DC a new Superboy & The Legion book and they ignored it.

It just seems like they're putting artificial limitations on themselves by only making 52 worlds and then they filled them up as quickly as they could. Why? Just so Morrison can only do one story? The assumption was, at least on my end, that they made these worlds (I assume Morrison was at least given orders to create them) because they had some kind of long term plans for them. If you're only going to allow yourself a limited number of worlds, why not wait and be cautious about how you use them? Set aside ten or so for popular Elseworlds stories and then only use the others when you have a really good idea for an ongoing or a mini.

Some of these new Earth's look like they've been set up for stories but nothing's been done with them in the two or so years since the Multiversity was set up. Earth 16 honestly looked like it was being set up for a series where the old heroes are forced to come out of retirement because their children are in danger. Even the initial story Morrison did of them suggested this. Or the Super-president. All kinds of things could be done with a president who is also Superman (and living in a world where the "born a US citizen" clause still exists). I honestly thought one of the things that Rebirth would have done away with was the limited number of Earths.

As I understand it, the idea of the "Brainiac God" in Convergence was Morrison's idea, as was the idea that the Mutliverse of Multiversity is only a "local universe." I don't remember where I read it, but Morrison said in an interview that the orreries of worlds were like "bubbles in a champagne glass." DC seemed to use this idea for Convergence as well, as it (allegedly) saw the restoration of the pre-COIE infinite Multiverse.

First one was to make Superman the only main hero to be able to cross to other Earths to explore them. You know...something to reflect that great characters unique status in comics history.

As those who know me here are aware, I'm a staunch supporter of the Iconic Superman, which is what you're referring to. He should be seen as the greatest and most unique character in the DCU, which doesn't mean he can't be human or relatable. That said, I'd rather the Flash/other speedsters be the ones who are uniquely suited to multiversal travel, given that Barry Allen (the original guy, not the Batmanified version Geoff Johns foisted on us) discovered the Multiverse in the Silver Age.

[Rod G]

Yes, we have things like Earth One and Earth Two (at least for now), but what about all those other worlds they created? The Charlton universe? Or that pulp universe? Or Earth 32, the home of Super-president? Why create these worlds if you're not going to do anything with them? Just for Morrison to play with? I'm sure nobody wants a sequel to Kingdom Come or New Frontiers but there are plenty of "corporate" Earths they could do stuff with. As someone else once said, DC has a problem with letting others play with Morrison's toys but they aren't really his.

Actually Earth-32 is the home of Super Martian, Bat Lantern, Wonder Hawk, etc


You must mean Earth-23.

[Sandy Hausler]

Yes, we have things like Earth One and Earth Two (at least for now), but what about all those other worlds they created? The Charlton universe? Or that pulp universe? Or Earth 32, the home of Super-president? Why create these worlds if you're not going to do anything with them? Just for Morrison to play with? I'm sure nobody wants a sequel to Kingdom Come or New Frontiers but there are plenty of "corporate" Earths they could do stuff with. As someone else once said, DC has a problem with letting others play with Morrison's toys but they aren't really his.

I would be happy with a return to the pre-COIE era -- regular (but not too regular) appearances of Earth 2 and other Earths appearing when necessary to a good story. Just because there ARE multiple Earths does not mean that DC should dilute its flagship Earth with overuse of other Earths. (I would not object to a JSA book set on Earth 2.)

Sandy Hausler