If you were to make Man Of Steel 2, how would you do it?

[Flash Gordon]

i would put krypto anda kara on it, maybe as two surviving specimen in the collection of one brainiac scouts, deal with him trying to teach kara how to fit in the same time as he tries to learn the most about his culture, the problems of having a superdog (in the wolfish style) while they both try to cope with how they will live from now on knowing they will always be seen as strangers, then brainiac comes to earth and they discover that he was the reason for the kryptonian isolament and the destruction of their colonies.

lots of space action scenes, strangers family bonding, a city destruction "independence day" style, the cameos for steel, maxima and the legion

Krypto being the phantom dog in the future Fortress, would work perfectly.

[SiegePerilous02]

I'm not too picky. I just know I want it to be directed by George Miller, and involve Brainiac and Supergirl.

Fire and Imprison everyone of the WB/DC Executives that green lite the last 2 superman movie. ....Then give the project to Bruce Timm.

CLOSE THREAD!

Yeah, no thanks. Then the DCEU actually would be too Bat-centric, and Diana would be a stone faced bitch whose villains are complete jokes. We're much better off with who we have now.

Well, im not sure about all the details, but i will make myself sure that im making a Superman movie, and not a movie about Super-emo-man.

People keep using that term to describe MoS Clark. I don't think it means what they think it means.

[Sacred Knight]

Stoic is a term that fits MOS Superman a lot more. Definitely not emo.

[dragonmp93]

Stoic is a term that fits MOS Superman a lot more. Definitely not emo.

I thought that stoicism was Batman's thing.

[Flash Gordon]

I thought that stoicism was Batman's thing.

Stoicism has always been Superman's thing until the early 00s.

I prefer him with a little more of a sense of humor, but he's always been a stoic bloke.

He's the smiling face that lets you know things will be okay. He might be nervous, afriad, sad- he doesn't show it. He laughs in the face of danger and moves forward.

He's a manly man, in the truest sense. He isn't macho, isn't afraid to "be in the moment" but he remains stern and is always himself. You can trust him to handle almost anything.

[Sacred Knight]

No, brooding is Batman's thing. Being stoic isn't the same as bumming all the time. Just someone who's straight-faced and level. I prefer more feistiness and humor, but he's certainly not emo.

The only time in MOS when he's not cool and collected is when he's forced to kill Zod and the pain it brings him.

[Carabas]

Timm still actually loves the DCU and the true, iconic versions of their heroes, unlike Snyder and Goyer. Not to mention that Dini was the main writer on S:TAS, and he knows and understands the character.

Bruce Timm could have written the all time most popular, amazing, fantastic, stupe,dous Superman stories of all time... Still doesn't qualify the guy that has never done life action, as in not all, not even something small, to direct a 250+ million dollar movie.

[Tayswift]

Bruce Timm could have written the all time most popular, amazing, fantastic, stupe,dous Superman stories of all time... Still doesn't qualify the guy that has never done life action, as in not all, not even something small, to direct a 250+ million dollar movie.

brad bird did the transition from animated movies to live action

[Adekis]

Wow, three pages and I think only one or maybe two actual answers to the prompt. Man of Steel wasn't the film I'd have made, but I think it's got decent sequel potential.

Let me bring mine on then.

Superman: MAN OF TOMORROW

We get a series of news clips explaining that in the aftermath of the First Contact War, Superman has assisted S.T.A.R. Labs and the U.N. to salvage and reverse-engineer as much "Krypto-Tech" as possible, and that he's assisted S.T.A.R.'s top scientists, including Serling Roquette, Silas Stone, John Henry Irons, and Doctor Alexander "Lex" Luthor, in making significant progress on that front. In doing so, in addition to his crime-fighting and general humanitarian work, Superman has gained Earth's goodwill and is considered to be humanity's friend and guardian angel. We learn that the Kryptonian Environmental Particulates have caused a number of increased harmless mutations in small portions of Earth's population, giving them amazing super-powers. Some of these "metahumans" have turned to crime, some have chosen to emulate the alien Superman in dedicating their powers to the betterment of humanity and helping those in need. An interview with Superman has him state, emphatically that he will assist the law in bringing in metahuman criminals like any other crook, and jokingly that he'd be a hypocrite if he didn't on some level condone the actions of the so-called "super-heroes" who use their powers to help others and save lives.

The story is about Luthor and the S.T.A.R. team as they and Superman successfully create a working World Engine to terraform (instead of Krypto-form) a planet in hours, and a working Phantom Drive that can take a ship a light-year in weeks! They spearhead a plan to take a rocket to Mars to terraform it. Funded by Bruce Wayne for non-profit, piloted by Hal Jordan, overseen by Lex Luthor, Serling Roquette, and Silas Stone, chronicled by Lois Lane and James Olsen, and escorted by Kal-El himself, this mission has everything going for it. They go to Mars- but on scouting it out, they discover that Mars is full of massive sub-surface cities populated by a society of scary-ass Martians, who immediately react with violence to the scouting parties. Though he saves them, Superman also dismantles all of the Earth-Team's weapons before they can retaliate, and threatens to take out the entire ship and World Engine- billions of dollars, representing humanity's future!- if the humans try to hurt the Martians. Luthor feels betrayed, and so do Stone and Wayne. Jordan, Lane, Olsen and Roquette take Superman's side. The tensions are high.

I don't know the details, but let's say that Ma'alefa'ak tries to kill the humans, almost causing an interplanetary incident, and Luthor commits genocide, only being stopped by Superman- which briefly proves to everyone on Earth that Superman's values are more universal than Earth, which complicates his relationships with the entire planet. Even Lois feels uneasy about him after it. J'onn J'onzz manages to convince everyone that Ma'alefa'ak acted alone, and the crisis is averted. J'onzz agrees to come to Earth as an ambassador for Mars, while Jordan decides to take a mind-meld to learn the Martian language and stay behind on Mars, opening diplomatic channels between the sister worlds, which makes everyone who'd been holding back realize that Superman was right, and that makes them uncomfortable too. Luthor determines to form an organization dedicated to Earth's advancement, and Earth's alone, on the interplanetary playing field- which leads him to contact Vandal Savage and Ra's al Ghul in the stinger to form the Light.

And that, give or take like a thousand minor details and a script, is my idea for Man of Steel 2.

The B-plot is about Bunker and Static fighting Holocaust in downtown Metropolis, since he attacked because everyone knew Superman was out of town.

[Xon-Ur]

Nothing about MoS was "emo". The current Superman/Clark is the most masculine and in-charge we've seen the character be, in years. He doesn't beat around the bush, he says what he's thinking and feeling. He doesn't lie to Lois, he takes responsibility for Zod and the invasion and deals with it. He's caring and kind without being a doormat.

Interesting. You equate "masculine" and "in charge" with:

*bullying (destroying the truck driver's rig)
*being a dullard (no time spent in continuing education, just wandering like David Banner in TIH, failing to use his brain in his fight with Zod and his crew instead of just resorting to violence)
*completely ignoring the characterization of Superman as a character who "always finds a way," and who, instead, resorts to violence and ultimately, murder, not to mention irresponsibility which leads to widespread collateral damage and death

I sincerely hope you aren't teaching these ideals of masculinity and assertiveness to any male children

Well, im not sure about all the details, but i will make myself sure that im making a Superman movie, and not a movie about Super-emo-man.

Exactly. "Clark" in Hobo of Steel pulls a Raimi Peter Parker at the height of his emo/angst in the film when he tells "Jonathan Kent" that he isn't his father. We then see lots of emo shots of "Clark" traveling the country, floating in water and flashing back to his past, and struggling with doing the right thing against a ham-fisted religious backdrop instead of going out and doing the right thing.

I don't mean to pick on your ideas, but putting a bunch of cartoon and comic book writers in charge of a billion dollar movie franchise is something that neither WB nor Disney would ever do. Guys like Johns and Bendis offer tangential creative consulting to the studio, but so far they haven't been anywhere near the actual process of writing or producing of these movies.

They don't necessarily have to be in charge, but like Bendis and Millar, who are members of Marvel Studio's braintrust, they could be consulted. Why are comic book writers somehow more "acceptable" than people who work in animation?

No, brooding is Batman's thing. Being stoic isn't the same as bumming all the time. Just someone who's straight-faced and level. I prefer more feistiness and humor, but he's certainly not emo.

The only time in MOS when he's not cool and collected is when he's forced to kill Zod and the pain it brings him.

That's right, he's cool and collected when he destroys the truck driver's semi, smashes Zod through countless buildings, and burns him in rage with his heat vision. I'd forgotten.

[Xon-Ur]

brad bird did the transition from animated movies to live action

Thank you for posting this. He made that transition and was extremely successful (M:I), though Tomorrowland didn't seem to get the proper marketing.

Bird loves Superman, as evidenced by The Iron Giant. Why not give the keys to someone who loves the actual character and isn't hell-bent on remaking him in a dark, twisted, "modern," and "realistic" image that betrays everything about who the character is?

I'm sure someone will bring out the tired old GA social crusader argument, but that was 2, maybe 3 years, tops. Out of SEVENTY-FIVE at the time of Hobo of Steel's release.

The biggest issue with Hobo of Steel is, in the final analysis, not even "Clark's" characterization or the death of Zod, it's the complete revamping of Jonathan Kent. What makes Clark who he is has nothing to do with Kryptonian heritage, it has to do with the love and example of the Kents. Turn Jon Kent into a fear-mongering coward, and you cannot have a valid interpretation of Superman.

[Prime]

Interesting. You equate "masculine" and "in charge" with:

*bullying (destroying the truck driver's rig)
*being a dullard (no time spent in continuing education, just wandering like David Banner in TIH, failing to use his brain in his fight with Zod and his crew instead of just resorting to violence)
*completely ignoring the characterization of Superman as a character who "always finds a way," and who, instead, resorts to violence and ultimately, murder, not to mention irresponsibility which leads to widespread collateral damage and death

I sincerely hope you aren't teaching these ideals of masculinity and assertiveness to any male children



Exactly. "Clark" in Hobo of Steel pulls a Raimi Peter Parker at the height of his emo/angst in the film when he tells "Jonathan Kent" that he isn't his father. We then see lots of emo shots of "Clark" traveling the country, floating in water and flashing back to his past, and struggling with doing the right thing against a ham-fisted religious backdrop instead of going out and doing the right thing.



They don't necessarily have to be in charge, but like Bendis and Millar, who are members of Marvel Studio's braintrust, they could be consulted. Why are comic book writers somehow more "acceptable" than people who work in animation?



That's right, he's cool and collected when he destroys the truck driver's semi, smashes Zod through countless buildings, and burns him in rage with his heat vision. I'd forgotten.

Not that MOS is the greatest movie ever. But all of this is bullsh*t. The truck driver had it coming for being an ass. And Metropolis was destroyed by the time Superman got there. And yeah he killed Zod. So what? You didnt get you jimmies rusted when Batman killed Harvey Dent and let Ra die did you? The Dark Killer. I think Zack Snyder was right, it seems that Superman will never win anymore because people will complain that he ia too perdect or not perfect enough.

[Agniwolf]

Not that MOS is the greatest movie ever. But all of this is bullsh*t. The truck driver had it coming for being an ass. And Metropolis was destroyed by the time Superman got there. And yeah he killed Zod. So what? You didnt get you jimmies rusted when Batman killed Harvey Dent and let Ra die did you? The Dark Killer. I think Zack Snyder was right, it seems that Superman will never win anymore because people will complain that he ia too perdect or not perfect enough.

maybe he thinks that superman does not fell emotions, and as such should not fell pissed ever. he is a god after all and as such he must be perfect from day one

[DieHard200904]

Not that MOS is the greatest movie ever. But all of this is bullsh*t. The truck driver had it coming for being an ass. And Metropolis was destroyed by the time Superman got there. And yeah he killed Zod. So what? You didnt get you jimmies rusted when Batman killed Harvey Dent and let Ra die did you? The Dark Killer. I think Zack Snyder was right, it seems that Superman will never win anymore because people will complain that he ia too perdect or not perfect enough.

Exactly, I mean what superhero isn't a dick to people sometimes? Being a dick is what Superman and Batman wrote the book on, and then people have this expectation that he has to be some perfect guy who does no wrong? You can't win over his fanbase I guess.

[SiegePerilous02]

brad bird did the transition from animated movies to live action

Not every animation director is a Brad Bird, or a Hideaki Anno. There is no indication that Timm could make the transition.

I have the same reaction every time someone says Grant Morrison or Mark Waid should be in charge of a Superman movie. Like, why on Earth do people think that doesn't have a chance of being a complete disaster?