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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy1 View Post
    Correction: When a Nuke was going off!
    Correction: After a nuke had gone off!

    He moved all the people in the city in 0.0001 microseconds after the nuke had gone off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ina heshima kwa Jumuia kama ka View Post
    Correction: After a nuke had gone off!

    He moved all the people in the city in 0.0001 microseconds after the nuke had gone off.
    Do you mean after it actually detonated or after it was launched?

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    Is it even established how this Superman perceives things when he moves at super speed? Smallville essentially made it bullet time akin to Quicksilver from the DOFP movie.

    His speed seems to come more from his flight than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekrolo2 View Post
    Is it even established how this Superman perceives things when he moves at super speed? Smallville essentially made it bullet time akin to Quicksilver from the DOFP movie.

    His speed seems to come more from his flight than anything else.
    It depends on the writer. Sometime Superman has Flash levels of reaction time and perception, and other times he doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekrolo2 View Post
    Is it even established how this Superman perceives things when he moves at super speed? Smallville essentially made it bullet time akin to Quicksilver from the DOFP movie.

    His speed seems to come more from his flight than anything else.
    He is as fast as the plot requires him to be. The plot needed those folks at he capitol dead so he wasn't fast enough to save them or to even attempt to save them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekrolo2 View Post
    One of the three (real pillars) of the DC universe is that Superman cannot have internal conflict. Its up there with "Batman can do everything because fuck you he's Batman" and "Wonder Woman must be badass warrior, expert diplomat, hardass, loving, and countless other personality traits that cannot really be reconciled into one person".
    Eh, then how do you "modernize" the character and make him "relatable"? That's the main complaint most people who dislike/ hate/ misunderstand Superman have.

    Quote Originally Posted by DieHard200904 View Post
    Indeed that's true, but the more I heard from the various reviewers it appears that Christopher Reeve has become some kind of Gold Standard. Comic book wise, that's talking Pre-Crisis Era though. If you really wanted to reflect say Pre 52 or New 52 in a movie it wouldn't be the same tone.
    Exactly. The Superman we got wasn't the "veteran" Superman from the Donner/Reeve/Singer/Routh movies. He was still learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Know View Post
    I would like to point out that in Captain America Civil War, Captain America ALSO fails to see a bomb he should've seen but was distracted. As a result a dozen or so people died when Scarlet Witch sent Crossbones skyward into the building.

    Superman gets raked across the coals for making mistakes, and yet other characters get away with making the same mistakes. It's like people want a perfectly flawless hero in Superman.
    And don't get me started on the Cap/Bucky bromance. Even Falcon said something along the lines of "so we're supposed to be cool now?" in utter disbelief of what he was seeing. But I haven't seen any snarky remarks about that, but plenty for the "Martha" moment in BvS, which IMO was better constructed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666MasterOfPuppets View Post
    And don't get me started on the Cap/Bucky bromance. Even Falcon said something along the lines of "so we're supposed to be cool now?" in utter disbelief of what he was seeing. But I haven't seen any snarky remarks about that, but plenty for the "Martha" moment in BvS, which IMO was better constructed.
    Bucky was brainwashed and used as a tool. He is an innocent person. There's nothing gray about his situation and Steve's stance on it. Bucky got a raw deal and Steve set out to help a friend and so did The Falcon.

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    Not to mention, since Peggy died Bucky is literally Steve's last link to his former life and his oldest friend. It's not hard to believe he'd want that back, especially if you watched The Winter Soldier which took great pains to show exactly how alone in the Modern Era Steve feels when he's not on a mission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francisco View Post
    Bucky was brainwashed and used as a tool. He is an innocent person. There's nothing gray about his situation and Steve's stance on it. Bucky got a raw deal and Steve set out to help a friend and so did The Falcon.
    Quote Originally Posted by DiceRoll View Post
    Not to mention, since Peggy died Bucky is literally Steve's last link to his former life and his oldest friend. It's not hard to believe he'd want that back, especially if you watched The Winter Soldier which took great pains to show exactly how alone in the Modern Era Steve feels when he's not on a mission.
    The thing is that Cap was able to bring back Bucky to his senses only appealing to their 70-year old friendship. People thought it was cool or didn't care in the worst case scenario. But with the Martha moment in BvS we got all the snarky/ angry comments, basically saying that it was bullcrap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekrolo2 View Post
    One of the three (real pillars) of the DC universe is that Superman cannot have internal conflict. Its up there with "Batman can do everything because fuck you he's Batman" and "Wonder Woman must be badass warrior, expert diplomat, hardass, loving, and countless other personality traits that cannot really be reconciled into one person".
    People can be more than one single trait. We all have layers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666MasterOfPuppets View Post
    The thing is that Cap was able to bring back Bucky to his senses only appealing to their 70-year old friendship. People thought it was cool or didn't care in the worst case scenario. But with the Martha moment in BvS we got all the snarky/ angry comments, basically saying that it was bullcrap.
    Keyword there. Friendship. As in "prior relation." As in "what Bucky was before Zola went Manchurian Candidate on him." Batman and Superman don't have that, which is why Bruce suddenly going from wanting to kill Clark in an overly theatrical manner to wanting to be his friend (he even calls himself that to Martha) was so jarring.

    And I don't buy the "it was about Bruce realizing Clark has family and is human" argument because right before Bruce sets Clark up to be stabbed he speechifies about how he's sure Clark's parents told him he was special and here for a reason while his parents taught him something else. So he knows Clark has family, he just doesn't care until he learns one of their names.

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    Batman v Superman - DoJ - Ultimate Cut: What was different?: http://dicapriyos.tumblr.com/post/14...man-v-superman

    spoilers:

    Bruce saves more than one kid at the Black Zero event. He’s the BatDad we deserve.
    More violence shown in the village. More dialogue from the African man Lois was interviewing.
    The KGBeast burns the bodies of the men he shot to frame Superman for the killing. An actress hired by Lex confirms that Superman was the one who did it.
    Jimmy Olsen say “I’m Jimmy Olsen”. Him and Lois’ first exchange is funny.
    The CIA attempts to bomb the village with Lois still held captive. Clark intervenes.
    Insignificant: When Clark first starts his investigation in Gotham, there’s male couple kissing in the background on the ferry.
    Clark goes investigating in Gotham, he’s supposed to be there to write his article on the football game, but instead goes to interview the actress Lex hired. She’s not there, but his investigation in The Batman begins here.
    We see 2 different opinions on Batman. A woman claims the only reason to be frightened of Batman is if you have a reason to be. A man says implies that Batman has changed, now everyone should be afraid. “He’s angry and he’s hunting.”
    More Clark/Lois interaction. He’s worried about her investigation into the bullet. He says it’s too dangerous. She says that’s why she didn’t tell him about it.
    Lex has more of a background presence. Clark is assigned to the library benefit because ‘someone requested Clark Kent cover the event’. So clearly Lex already knows who he is from the beginning. Meaning he wanted Clark and Bruce to meet.
    Insignificant: Perry calls Clark a nerd.
    More Lex dialog with Finch. “Maybe if I keep everything the same Dad will come back.” He talks about his Dad almost as if he’s not dead.
    There’s a quick Bruce Wayne shower scene. Yes, we see Ben’s ass. Yes, it looks good.
    Clark calls his mom after the watching the Senator Finch interview. He asks why his dad never left Kansas and ask why can’t life be more simple. Martha responds nothing was ever simple.
    We see Lex pulling the strings more and more. He has the man Batman branded kill while in prison. Then he has the pics sent to Clark.
    There’s a new scene with Jon Stewart roasting Superman.
    Jena Malone plays an unmade forensic scientist.
    Extended scene with Diana she’s talking with a Curator about the sword on display.
    The Knightmare scene is longer. We see all the trucks arriving at the compound Batman is at. There’s a longer shot of Batman walking to the truck. Also an extended scene of Batman fighting the Superman soldiers.
    There’s a scene with Clark trying to find out what happened to the man who was killed. He talks with his girlfriend outside of the GCPD. She tells him words won’t stop Batman, only fists.
    Longer moment between Clark and his mom, she’s giving him advice.
    The actress Lex hired sees the KGBeast waiting outside her apartment as she gets off the bus. She stays on the bus.
    She goes to see Senator Finch to tell her the truth before the senate meeting. The pieces of the African plot line start slowing falling into place.
    Lois realizes the entire thing was a setup. She tells Perry to run the story. Lex set the whole thing up, it was an ambush for Superman.
    Senator knows everything. Lex threatened and coerced that actress into lying about Superman. She realizes Lex has been using the senate, playing them like puppets.
    The KGBeast pushes the african actress in front of a subway car to silence her.
    When Finch says “Today is a day for truth.” she was talking about Lex setting up Superman. That’s when she sees ‘granny’s peach tea’. In the context of the UE at that moment she realizes she’s been played when she sees Lex’s empty seat.
    After the senate explosion, victims are being treated on the steps outside. Superman is flying victims out of the wreckage. He’s helping. He’s saving people. He sees all the damaged caused, of the dead bodies and blames himself. He locks eyes with Lois, and flies away. (Ok so I legit teared up bye)
    There’s a scene with Alfred chopping wood. Out side the Wayne residence. He goes inside looking for Bruce and sees what happened at the senate meeting. The returned checks from Wallace sit on a coffee table. He seems to realize that Bruce is about to do something reckless. He turns to face the lake, worried.
    We see Lex watch footage of Batman breaking into Lexcorp to steal the Kryptonite. He smirks. All according to plan.
    Longer montage of Bruce weaponizing the Kryptonite and a little bit longer of him working out. (God…)
    We see people blaming Superman for the attack on the capital. News outlets are saying if he’s so powerful, why couldn’t he stop a bomber a few feet away from him? There’s a protest where they hang and burn a Superman doll in frustration.
    Longer scene of Clark in the mountains. He walks by a group of men by the base of the mountain. As he walks by they say “He knows the mountain is not passable. He’s come to die.”
    Lois is watching the news. Lex apparently planted bomb materials for investigators to find in Wallace’s apartment. Superman has not been ruled out as a co-conspirator. We cut to Lex on the helipad as the news channel still talks about evidence pointing to Superman being involved. He smirks.
    Lois goes to Wallace’s apartment. It’s completely changed from the scene where we see Lex give him the wheel chair. Anti-Superman graffiti everywhere. Bomb making material on the desk. Lois realizes that Wallace had just bought groceries. She conclude he didn’t know he was going to die that day.
    She calls Jena Malone’s character again. That bullet from the desert? Wallace’s new wheel chair? Both made from the same metal. The same metal Lexcorp manufactures. Also the wheelchair was lined with lead. So even if Clark checked, he wouldn’t have known it was a bomb.
    We see the full Lois kidnapping scene. (Her being dragged out to a truck)
    After the BvS fight, Alfred tells Bruce where Martha Kent is. Bruce says “I don’t deserve you Alfred.” “No, you don’t.” is Alfred’s response.
    When Clark goes to confront Lex he says “You lose.” Lex says “I don’t know how to lose.” Clark says “You’ll learn.” Lex mockingly says “I’ll learn! I don’t hate the sinner, I hate the sin. And yours, my friend, is existing.” So basically this whole scene is like 2 minutes longer.
    There’s a scene of Martha getting rescued by the GCPD after Batman saves her from the warehouse.
    There’s a scene with Lex in the Kryptonian ship communicating with what is presumed to be Steppenwolf, 3 mother boxes, and an outline of Earth’s solar system. This scene was also released on YouTube back in March.
    The end montage is longer. Metropolis is shown to be empty, leaves blow through the street. Business’ are closed. The Daily Planet shut down. Why? Because everyone in Metropolis is attending Superman’s funeral.
    The Daily Planet staff attends Clark’s funeral in Kansas. Pete Ross and Lana Lang from Man of Steel are also there.
    The priest presiding over Clark’s funeral reads a passage about resurrection and the “Earth giving birth to the dead”.
    BRUCE PAYS FOR CLARK’S FUNERAL BYE I’M GONE
    In the prison scene, Lex makes it abundantly clear that he knows Batman is Bruce. Lex says “Look at us. This is how it all caves in. Civilization. Wayne Manors. Out the window. But who would believe me? I’m insane. I’m not even fit to stand trial.” He laughs. Bruce says “That’s right, we have hospitals to treat and heal with compassion. But that’s not where you’re going. I arranged for you to be transferred to Arkham Asylum (Suicide Squad cameo confirmed?) in Gotham.” Lex quickly stops smiling.
    end of spoilers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    Batman v Superman - DoJ - Ultimate Cut: What was different?: http://dicapriyos.tumblr.com/post/14...man-v-superman

    spoilers:

    Bruce saves more than one kid at the Black Zero event. He’s the BatDad we deserve.
    More violence shown in the village. More dialogue from the African man Lois was interviewing.
    The KGBeast burns the bodies of the men he shot to frame Superman for the killing. An actress hired by Lex confirms that Superman was the one who did it.
    Jimmy Olsen say “I’m Jimmy Olsen”. Him and Lois’ first exchange is funny.
    The CIA attempts to bomb the village with Lois still held captive. Clark intervenes.
    Insignificant: When Clark first starts his investigation in Gotham, there’s male couple kissing in the background on the ferry.
    Clark goes investigating in Gotham, he’s supposed to be there to write his article on the football game, but instead goes to interview the actress Lex hired. She’s not there, but his investigation in The Batman begins here.
    We see 2 different opinions on Batman. A woman claims the only reason to be frightened of Batman is if you have a reason to be. A man says implies that Batman has changed, now everyone should be afraid. “He’s angry and he’s hunting.”
    More Clark/Lois interaction. He’s worried about her investigation into the bullet. He says it’s too dangerous. She says that’s why she didn’t tell him about it.
    Lex has more of a background presence. Clark is assigned to the library benefit because ‘someone requested Clark Kent cover the event’. So clearly Lex already knows who he is from the beginning. Meaning he wanted Clark and Bruce to meet.
    Insignificant: Perry calls Clark a nerd.
    More Lex dialog with Finch. “Maybe if I keep everything the same Dad will come back.” He talks about his Dad almost as if he’s not dead.
    There’s a quick Bruce Wayne shower scene. Yes, we see Ben’s ass. Yes, it looks good.
    Clark calls his mom after the watching the Senator Finch interview. He asks why his dad never left Kansas and ask why can’t life be more simple. Martha responds nothing was ever simple.
    We see Lex pulling the strings more and more. He has the man Batman branded kill while in prison. Then he has the pics sent to Clark.
    There’s a new scene with Jon Stewart roasting Superman.
    Jena Malone plays an unmade forensic scientist.
    Extended scene with Diana she’s talking with a Curator about the sword on display.
    The Knightmare scene is longer. We see all the trucks arriving at the compound Batman is at. There’s a longer shot of Batman walking to the truck. Also an extended scene of Batman fighting the Superman soldiers.
    There’s a scene with Clark trying to find out what happened to the man who was killed. He talks with his girlfriend outside of the GCPD. She tells him words won’t stop Batman, only fists.
    Longer moment between Clark and his mom, she’s giving him advice.
    The actress Lex hired sees the KGBeast waiting outside her apartment as she gets off the bus. She stays on the bus.
    She goes to see Senator Finch to tell her the truth before the senate meeting. The pieces of the African plot line start slowing falling into place.
    Lois realizes the entire thing was a setup. She tells Perry to run the story. Lex set the whole thing up, it was an ambush for Superman.
    Senator knows everything. Lex threatened and coerced that actress into lying about Superman. She realizes Lex has been using the senate, playing them like puppets.
    The KGBeast pushes the african actress in front of a subway car to silence her.
    When Finch says “Today is a day for truth.” she was talking about Lex setting up Superman. That’s when she sees ‘granny’s peach tea’. In the context of the UE at that moment she realizes she’s been played when she sees Lex’s empty seat.
    After the senate explosion, victims are being treated on the steps outside. Superman is flying victims out of the wreckage. He’s helping. He’s saving people. He sees all the damaged caused, of the dead bodies and blames himself. He locks eyes with Lois, and flies away. (Ok so I legit teared up bye)
    There’s a scene with Alfred chopping wood. Out side the Wayne residence. He goes inside looking for Bruce and sees what happened at the senate meeting. The returned checks from Wallace sit on a coffee table. He seems to realize that Bruce is about to do something reckless. He turns to face the lake, worried.
    We see Lex watch footage of Batman breaking into Lexcorp to steal the Kryptonite. He smirks. All according to plan.
    Longer montage of Bruce weaponizing the Kryptonite and a little bit longer of him working out. (God…)
    We see people blaming Superman for the attack on the capital. News outlets are saying if he’s so powerful, why couldn’t he stop a bomber a few feet away from him? There’s a protest where they hang and burn a Superman doll in frustration.
    Longer scene of Clark in the mountains. He walks by a group of men by the base of the mountain. As he walks by they say “He knows the mountain is not passable. He’s come to die.”
    Lois is watching the news. Lex apparently planted bomb materials for investigators to find in Wallace’s apartment. Superman has not been ruled out as a co-conspirator. We cut to Lex on the helipad as the news channel still talks about evidence pointing to Superman being involved. He smirks.
    Lois goes to Wallace’s apartment. It’s completely changed from the scene where we see Lex give him the wheel chair. Anti-Superman graffiti everywhere. Bomb making material on the desk. Lois realizes that Wallace had just bought groceries. She conclude he didn’t know he was going to die that day.
    She calls Jena Malone’s character again. That bullet from the desert? Wallace’s new wheel chair? Both made from the same metal. The same metal Lexcorp manufactures. Also the wheelchair was lined with lead. So even if Clark checked, he wouldn’t have known it was a bomb.
    We see the full Lois kidnapping scene. (Her being dragged out to a truck)
    After the BvS fight, Alfred tells Bruce where Martha Kent is. Bruce says “I don’t deserve you Alfred.” “No, you don’t.” is Alfred’s response.
    When Clark goes to confront Lex he says “You lose.” Lex says “I don’t know how to lose.” Clark says “You’ll learn.” Lex mockingly says “I’ll learn! I don’t hate the sinner, I hate the sin. And yours, my friend, is existing.” So basically this whole scene is like 2 minutes longer.
    There’s a scene of Martha getting rescued by the GCPD after Batman saves her from the warehouse.
    There’s a scene with Lex in the Kryptonian ship communicating with what is presumed to be Steppenwolf, 3 mother boxes, and an outline of Earth’s solar system. This scene was also released on YouTube back in March.
    The end montage is longer. Metropolis is shown to be empty, leaves blow through the street. Business’ are closed. The Daily Planet shut down. Why? Because everyone in Metropolis is attending Superman’s funeral.
    The Daily Planet staff attends Clark’s funeral in Kansas. Pete Ross and Lana Lang from Man of Steel are also there.
    The priest presiding over Clark’s funeral reads a passage about resurrection and the “Earth giving birth to the dead”.
    BRUCE PAYS FOR CLARK’S FUNERAL BYE I’M GONE
    In the prison scene, Lex makes it abundantly clear that he knows Batman is Bruce. Lex says “Look at us. This is how it all caves in. Civilization. Wayne Manors. Out the window. But who would believe me? I’m insane. I’m not even fit to stand trial.” He laughs. Bruce says “That’s right, we have hospitals to treat and heal with compassion. But that’s not where you’re going. I arranged for you to be transferred to Arkham Asylum (Suicide Squad cameo confirmed?) in Gotham.” Lex quickly stops smiling.
    end of spoilers
    It doesn't really resolves the problems I had with the film. But oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    Batman v Superman - DoJ - Ultimate Cut: What was different?: http://dicapriyos.tumblr.com/post/14...man-v-superman

    spoilers:

    Bruce saves more than one kid at the Black Zero event. He’s the BatDad we deserve.
    More violence shown in the village. More dialogue from the African man Lois was interviewing.
    The KGBeast burns the bodies of the men he shot to frame Superman for the killing. An actress hired by Lex confirms that Superman was the one who did it.
    Jimmy Olsen say “I’m Jimmy Olsen”. Him and Lois’ first exchange is funny.
    The CIA attempts to bomb the village with Lois still held captive. Clark intervenes.
    Insignificant: When Clark first starts his investigation in Gotham, there’s male couple kissing in the background on the ferry.
    Clark goes investigating in Gotham, he’s supposed to be there to write his article on the football game, but instead goes to interview the actress Lex hired. She’s not there, but his investigation in The Batman begins here.
    We see 2 different opinions on Batman. A woman claims the only reason to be frightened of Batman is if you have a reason to be. A man says implies that Batman has changed, now everyone should be afraid. “He’s angry and he’s hunting.”
    More Clark/Lois interaction. He’s worried about her investigation into the bullet. He says it’s too dangerous. She says that’s why she didn’t tell him about it.
    Lex has more of a background presence. Clark is assigned to the library benefit because ‘someone requested Clark Kent cover the event’. So clearly Lex already knows who he is from the beginning. Meaning he wanted Clark and Bruce to meet.
    Insignificant: Perry calls Clark a nerd.
    More Lex dialog with Finch. “Maybe if I keep everything the same Dad will come back.” He talks about his Dad almost as if he’s not dead.
    There’s a quick Bruce Wayne shower scene. Yes, we see Ben’s ass. Yes, it looks good.
    Clark calls his mom after the watching the Senator Finch interview. He asks why his dad never left Kansas and ask why can’t life be more simple. Martha responds nothing was ever simple.
    We see Lex pulling the strings more and more. He has the man Batman branded kill while in prison. Then he has the pics sent to Clark.
    There’s a new scene with Jon Stewart roasting Superman.
    Jena Malone plays an unmade forensic scientist.
    Extended scene with Diana she’s talking with a Curator about the sword on display.
    The Knightmare scene is longer. We see all the trucks arriving at the compound Batman is at. There’s a longer shot of Batman walking to the truck. Also an extended scene of Batman fighting the Superman soldiers.
    There’s a scene with Clark trying to find out what happened to the man who was killed. He talks with his girlfriend outside of the GCPD. She tells him words won’t stop Batman, only fists.
    Longer moment between Clark and his mom, she’s giving him advice.
    The actress Lex hired sees the KGBeast waiting outside her apartment as she gets off the bus. She stays on the bus.
    She goes to see Senator Finch to tell her the truth before the senate meeting. The pieces of the African plot line start slowing falling into place.
    Lois realizes the entire thing was a setup. She tells Perry to run the story. Lex set the whole thing up, it was an ambush for Superman.
    Senator knows everything. Lex threatened and coerced that actress into lying about Superman. She realizes Lex has been using the senate, playing them like puppets.
    The KGBeast pushes the african actress in front of a subway car to silence her.
    When Finch says “Today is a day for truth.” she was talking about Lex setting up Superman. That’s when she sees ‘granny’s peach tea’. In the context of the UE at that moment she realizes she’s been played when she sees Lex’s empty seat.
    After the senate explosion, victims are being treated on the steps outside. Superman is flying victims out of the wreckage. He’s helping. He’s saving people. He sees all the damaged caused, of the dead bodies and blames himself. He locks eyes with Lois, and flies away. (Ok so I legit teared up bye)
    There’s a scene with Alfred chopping wood. Out side the Wayne residence. He goes inside looking for Bruce and sees what happened at the senate meeting. The returned checks from Wallace sit on a coffee table. He seems to realize that Bruce is about to do something reckless. He turns to face the lake, worried.
    We see Lex watch footage of Batman breaking into Lexcorp to steal the Kryptonite. He smirks. All according to plan.
    Longer montage of Bruce weaponizing the Kryptonite and a little bit longer of him working out. (God…)
    We see people blaming Superman for the attack on the capital. News outlets are saying if he’s so powerful, why couldn’t he stop a bomber a few feet away from him? There’s a protest where they hang and burn a Superman doll in frustration.
    Longer scene of Clark in the mountains. He walks by a group of men by the base of the mountain. As he walks by they say “He knows the mountain is not passable. He’s come to die.”
    Lois is watching the news. Lex apparently planted bomb materials for investigators to find in Wallace’s apartment. Superman has not been ruled out as a co-conspirator. We cut to Lex on the helipad as the news channel still talks about evidence pointing to Superman being involved. He smirks.
    Lois goes to Wallace’s apartment. It’s completely changed from the scene where we see Lex give him the wheel chair. Anti-Superman graffiti everywhere. Bomb making material on the desk. Lois realizes that Wallace had just bought groceries. She conclude he didn’t know he was going to die that day.
    She calls Jena Malone’s character again. That bullet from the desert? Wallace’s new wheel chair? Both made from the same metal. The same metal Lexcorp manufactures. Also the wheelchair was lined with lead. So even if Clark checked, he wouldn’t have known it was a bomb.
    We see the full Lois kidnapping scene. (Her being dragged out to a truck)
    After the BvS fight, Alfred tells Bruce where Martha Kent is. Bruce says “I don’t deserve you Alfred.” “No, you don’t.” is Alfred’s response.
    When Clark goes to confront Lex he says “You lose.” Lex says “I don’t know how to lose.” Clark says “You’ll learn.” Lex mockingly says “I’ll learn! I don’t hate the sinner, I hate the sin. And yours, my friend, is existing.” So basically this whole scene is like 2 minutes longer.
    There’s a scene of Martha getting rescued by the GCPD after Batman saves her from the warehouse.
    There’s a scene with Lex in the Kryptonian ship communicating with what is presumed to be Steppenwolf, 3 mother boxes, and an outline of Earth’s solar system. This scene was also released on YouTube back in March.
    The end montage is longer. Metropolis is shown to be empty, leaves blow through the street. Business’ are closed. The Daily Planet shut down. Why? Because everyone in Metropolis is attending Superman’s funeral.
    The Daily Planet staff attends Clark’s funeral in Kansas. Pete Ross and Lana Lang from Man of Steel are also there.
    The priest presiding over Clark’s funeral reads a passage about resurrection and the “Earth giving birth to the dead”.
    BRUCE PAYS FOR CLARK’S FUNERAL BYE I’M GONE
    In the prison scene, Lex makes it abundantly clear that he knows Batman is Bruce. Lex says “Look at us. This is how it all caves in. Civilization. Wayne Manors. Out the window. But who would believe me? I’m insane. I’m not even fit to stand trial.” He laughs. Bruce says “That’s right, we have hospitals to treat and heal with compassion. But that’s not where you’re going. I arranged for you to be transferred to Arkham Asylum (Suicide Squad cameo confirmed?) in Gotham.” Lex quickly stops smiling.
    end of spoilers
    Wow. Quite a bit of Clark and Superman stuff was cut,and a lot of the finer points of Lex's manipulations are better connected. I'm honestly really looking forward to seeing this cut next month.
    When it comes to comics,one person's "fan-service" is another persons personal cannon. So by definition it's ALL fan service. Aren't we ALL fans?
    SUPERMAN is the greatest fictional character ever created.

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