Pre-Event REBIRTH Clues

[Ropeburn]

That it's 5 years later?

Pretty crappy "World Building" when your have to revise things in five years time. There's no way around that.

[GlennSimpson]

Pretty crappy "World Building" when your have to revise things in five years time. There's no way around that.

Or just the state of the modern corporate super-hero environment. See "Secret Wars" for further reference.

[Tayswift]

Or just the state of the modern corporate super-hero environment. See "Secret Wars" for further reference.

secret wars wasn't a hard reboot, just a new paint on marvel universe

[JasonTodd428]

secret wars wasn't a hard reboot, just a new paint on marvel universe

We don't know yet if Rebirth is a "hard reboot" though. I'm still of the opinion that it's not.

[Tayswift]

Could also be seen as a sign of them panicking. Not saying they are but their critics could say that.

really seems like DC higher ups panicked with sales and readers ignoring the company

[John Ossie]

We don't know yet if Rebirth is a "hard reboot" though. I'm still of the opinion that it's not.

Quoted in agreement.

[John Ossie]

really seems like DC higher ups panicked with sales and readers ignoring the company

Could be. I won't say whether or not they are or have since I can't possibly know one way or the other but IMO their critics COULD see it as panicking. Again, I'm not saying they are.

[dan12456]

I'm actually super optimistic about this.

[Ropeburn]

Or just the state of the modern corporate super-hero environment. See "Secret Wars" for further reference.

Sliding Time vs Superboy Prime Punches/Flashpoint/Anti-Monitor Problems/Countdown/Zero Hour/Poor Sales Creating Rebirth and more changes, changes, changes! isn't the same thing. At all.

You can actually look up and own the comic where Spider-Man met Black Cat. You'd be hard pressed to know when Batman met Catwoman after all these changes.

[JasonTodd428]

really seems like DC higher ups panicked with sales and readers ignoring the company

Yeah, I have to agree that is a distinct possibility.

[GlennSimpson]

Sliding Time vs Superboy Prime Punches/Flashpoint/Anti-Monitor Problems/Countdown/Zero Hour/Poor Sales Creating Rebirth and more changes, changes, changes! isn't the same thing. At all.

You can actually look up and own the comic where Spider-Man met Black Cat. You'd be hard pressed to know when Batman met Catwoman after all these changes.

And if you really need to look up and own the comic where Spider-Man met Black Cat, you're probably not a modern comic book reader, who doesn't give a crap about that stuff, they just want to read new exciting stories.

But hey, if I like Captain America: Civil War, I can just go buy the first issue of Captain America the comics series and start there, right? Oh wait, there's like 7 "Captain America #1s" out there.

[Ropeburn]

And if you really need to look up and own the comic where Spider-Man met Black Cat, you're probably not a modern comic book reader, who doesn't give a crap about that stuff, they just want to read new exciting stories.

Why can't an old story be good? That's like saying "why buy old Trades because it happened in the past?" It would be NEW to me if I haven't read it.

Even if you didn't want to own the comic and were curious, you couldn't even google "when did batman meet catwoman?" Google would ask you which time and which universe?

[GlennSimpson]

Why can't an old story be good? That's like saying "why buy old Trades because it happened in the past?" It would be NEW to me if I haven't read it.

Even if you didn't want to own the comic and were curious, you couldn't even google "when did batman meet catwoman?" Google would ask you which time and which universe?

And then you could read them all.

Not that DC needs to care about any of that. Whatever trade is on sale at the book store should be fine.

[Atlanta96]

I have to say, even as someone pretty panicked about the end results of Rebirth, I do like what I read in that article. More female creators? Cool. Outside talent? I'm cautiously interested. Returning characters to their most iconic interpretations? Oh hell yeah! It does sound like they're trying to create a quality DCU, and actually care about iconography and history this time. And while I'm sure DC will continue to disappoint me in plenty of ways, I still have some optimism.

[Tayswift]

Why can't an old story be good? That's like saying "why buy old Trades because it happened in the past?" It would be NEW to me if I haven't read it.

Even if you didn't want to own the comic and were curious, you couldn't even google "when did batman meet catwoman?" Google would ask you which time and which universe?

Not really hard to do. the excuse of having so much baggage is too lame. if this was the case marvel would be screwed up