So, is Kon-el being retconned out of existence?

[mr_crisp]

He's not being retconned. He's just being sent to the place that DC sends all it's characters that they aren't using at the moment and may eventually use.

[DieHard200904]

I miss Kon, and Linda too. Guess I can just re read the old stuff.

[AdamFTF]

He's not being retconned. He's just being sent to the place that DC sends all it's characters that they aren't using at the moment and may eventually use.

Isn't that usually called "character limbo"?

[JLH]

He and Bart are probably gone for a good long while unfortunately.

Sadly they're two characters who've really become "toxic," and with Jon seemingly taking on the Superboy name and NuWally stepping into the Kid Flash role, is there a place for either Kon or Bart in the current DCU? Bart could eventually return as Impulse, I guess, but I fear what would be done with Kon... You like to think it couldn't get any worse, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[stephens2177]

Bart could be Impulse,and kon could be Scion,and more like his YJ season 2 version,he was such a great well rounded hero that season.not to mention does everyone remember Futures End? He was weaker,powers that made him "feel" like YJ superboy,but STILL all TTK.heat and sound are the two easiest wavelengths to sense,and could fit perfectly with how kons tactile senses work.take flight and heat vision away from him and he would feel like all the versions.

They could also make him hide and run ,always wearing regular clothes,jackets,glasses,even hats.he could help where he sees the need.

Or he could be a Cadmus agent,kinda how the YJ team was covert.

[stephens2177]

I think having kon around a older kal and a lil super kid would be great for all of them.they could relate to each other in cool ways,like having jon see kon as his cool older cousin,and kon looking up to kal,while kal wishes kon could have had a childhood and a real father.

Or kon can just be a secret covert op for Cadmus,bringin in alien or earth based lifeforms that is trouble.

[Sacred Knight]

Kon's ultimate fate I think will ultimately depend on how Jon is received. Until disappointingly told otherwise, I have to believe at this point that Superdad's taking over the books is something temporary much like Bat-Gordon. Jon though I see as a big wildcard. If he takes off, there's no reason not to keep with him. If he doesn't pan out though, that could pave the way to get rid of him too and bring back Kon. Via they're thinking it doesn't necessarily have to be one or the other, it could conceivably be both, I just think with how badly Kon was mishandled, not many would be in a rush to dust him off and fix the mess if the Jon concept flies.

[Naruto1996]

Kon's ultimate fate I think will ultimately depend on how Jon is received. Until disappointingly told otherwise, I have to believe at this point that Superdad's taking over the books is something temporary much like Bat-Gordon. Jon though I see as a big wildcard. If he takes off, there's no reason not to keep with him. If he doesn't pan out though, that could pave the way to get rid of him too and bring back Kon. Via they're thinking it doesn't necessarily have to be one or the other, it could conceivably be both, I just think with how badly Kon was mishandled, not many would be in a rush to dust him off and fix the mess if the Jon concept flies.

I do not think that Jon erased continuity because he is the son of superman recalls that the fans do not like Damian but still not deleted for being the son of batman

[stephens2177]

I just wish DC would have stopped all the "superman is the daddy" stuff we have been shoved down our throat,from geoff,to YJ (1st season),and then new 52,thats what killed kon,atleast in part imo.

Kon was created to "be" superman,not to be his son,how hard is that to wrap around folks brains.it never fully worked,because he was a idea that was never going to completely mesh with the reality of the situation.

Jon is the son of superman,and should have a framework that uses that.kon is a clone,created to be superman by humans,totally different set up and ways to go about it.

jon and kon are so different it boggles my mind how anybody could put them in the same category.jon was a normal kid who found out his dad was superman then got powers himself,and kon is a human answer to a alien god,they are absolutely nothing like each other.

Jon has normal everything,but for now being SUPER.kon is not normal in anyway,and in some ways would like to be,but knows he was created for something different.

their personalities are insanely different,their powers should be different in my opinion,and while jon is wearing jeans,its because he is a normal lid who wears jeans,while kon wears his as either a statement of being different than superman,or try to fit in.

Having these two around at the same time does not take away from the other at all,cause their story paths are leading in 2 completely different directions.

[stephens2177]

Does this

And this

Look like the same?

No

Stop treating them as the same,or one or the other,they are worlds apart in every conceivable way,and they both can see print,and at the same time.

[Atlanta96]

Kon's ultimate fate I think will ultimately depend on how Jon is received. Until disappointingly told otherwise, I have to believe at this point that Superdad's taking over the books is something temporary much like Bat-Gordon. Jon though I see as a big wildcard. If he takes off, there's no reason not to keep with him. If he doesn't pan out though, that could pave the way to get rid of him too and bring back Kon. Via they're thinking it doesn't necessarily have to be one or the other, it could conceivably be both, I just think with how badly Kon was mishandled, not many would be in a rush to dust him off and fix the mess if the Jon concept flies.

If this is true, then may Jon Kent be more hated than Betty Draper and Skyler White combined!

But seriously, I hope they give Kon a new identity and straighten out his character somehow. He's a cool guy and he deserves better.

[calypsocoin]

He and Bart are probably gone for a good long while unfortunately.

It looks like Cassie is gone as well. Tim is the only safe one probably because he is a part of the Batfamily.

[stephens2177]

We need a YJ revolution.

[HunterX]

He is being replaced by the Lois & Clark's spawn, isnt he.

[noakai]

Kon's ultimate fate I think will ultimately depend on how Jon is received. Until disappointingly told otherwise, I have to believe at this point that Superdad's taking over the books is something temporary much like Bat-Gordon. Jon though I see as a big wildcard. If he takes off, there's no reason not to keep with him. If he doesn't pan out though, that could pave the way to get rid of him too and bring back Kon. Via they're thinking it doesn't necessarily have to be one or the other, it could conceivably be both, I just think with how badly Kon was mishandled, not many would be in a rush to dust him off and fix the mess if the Jon concept flies.

It will be interesting to see what happens because I wonder if DC is trying to have another Tim-and-Kon with Damian and Jonathan. Not in a literal way, since the dynamic will no doubt be massively different, but with Damian on TT I have wondered. Damian's already taken over a lot of the roles Robin!Tim used to fill, so I imagine that maybe they're gonna start trying to use Jon in a similar way and see if that works.

I do not think that Jon erased continuity because he is the son of superman recalls that the fans do not like Damian but still not deleted for being the son of batman

LOL, true. I always see a lot of Damian dislike and that hasn't stopped them from putting him in 3 movies, so if they want to push Jon, they will, whether the audience loves him wholeheartedly or not.