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    The ONLY way they would stand a chance is if they could overload his spider sense. Create so much danger that he can't focus properly. Only problem is that none of them could generate that much danger.

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    Honestly Spidey can flat out remove most if not all of them from the fight at the bell just by opening up with the web slingers full out.

    And really people need to stop acting like he's suddenly easy to hit even if you DO get past the spider sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromi View Post
    Honestly Spidey can flat out remove most if not all of them from the fight at the bell just by opening up with the web slingers full out.

    And really people need to stop acting like he's suddenly easy to hit even if you DO get past the spider sense

    Well they did spend a few months training him so that he could be a threat without his spider sense. So getting by it isn't an automatic win of course. But there has been cases made for overloading it (either through being that dangerous or artificial means). But it's all moot in this fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerboy View Post
    True but that's just low showings. We'd be working from the idea that everybody is working from their high-end feats.
    That's not just one or two low showings, that's an established series of events happening across decades that show the Spider-Sense to be far from absolutely reliable.

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    So then I guess Flash's, or Superman's, or <insert long running character with established superspeed here> speed can be assumed to be far from absolutely reliable as well given the plethora of times they've been touched by things that are not in fact as fast as whatever it is they normally dodge without trouble.

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    Im pretty sure spidey had no bullet time feats in his first 10 years or so.
    Is that Daredevil thing his best speed feat / does he have a bunch of other bullet time feats to support this?

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    Daredevil's been knocking bullets out of the air for pretty much ever. I can google image search "Daredevil bullet timing" and pull a half dozen separate feats on the first row. (here,here,here,here,and here)

    And even taking away 10 years of Spiderman's history still leaves another 50 where he does have them, I can start flooding this thread with them if I have to if we're this determined to retread every debate we've ever done.
    Last edited by Hiromi; 06-23-2014 at 01:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt the Manly View Post
    Im pretty sure spidey had no bullet time feats in his first 10 years or so.
    Is that Daredevil thing his best speed feat / does he have a bunch of other bullet time feats to support this?
    Matt has lots and lots of BT feats over the years, repeatedly doing things like being fired upon by multiple sources, swinging a billy club and batting two different bullets back into two different targets accurately enough to disarm, not kill. He did something similar just recently, to a crazy dude standing a couple of feet away, and using a couple of police batons, he swatted away all 6 shots from a revolver at point-blank range. There is the famous sniper feat. There are the innumerable feats of him dancing through automatic weapon fire. Then there are things like a sniper spotting him in a scope from a rooftop two blocks away, having his scope on Matt, suddenly Matt's not there in his FOV. Dude's like "wha--" and takes his eye away to see Matt kicking him in the head. Plus he does things like casually, calmly, jokingly yet still respectfully humiliate Captain America when Cap is attacking from ambush using specific anti-Daredevil gear from SHIELD. Matt trivially catches Cap's shield out of the air in the aforementioned ambush when Cap has specifically used anti-radar-sense chaff and some kind of sonic distorter to not be heard and to screw with hearing.

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    Maybbbeeeee Matt can distract Spider-man long enough for Batman to activate a noise-disorienting device (used against Man Bat before), which MIGHT slow Spider-man down enough to take him out with other stuff. That would take out Matt, too, but oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt the Manly View Post
    Im pretty sure spidey had no bullet time feats in his first 10 years or so.
    Is that Daredevil thing his best speed feat / does he have a bunch of other bullet time feats to support this?
    I think, if I am reading this correctly, Matt is asking about Spidey's speed feats, not Dare Devils. To answer that: Spider-Man doesn't swat or catch bullets out of the air air like some of the martial arts based characters. And because he is operating with precog, it's often times hard to tell if he is moving before a shot is fired or not. That said, he does have have some explicit bullet time feats. He also has a lot of really impressive dodging, full out blitzing tons of meta humans, moving so fast does anime style disappear moves, and more.

    Some speed scans for you.

    http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/...asm+637017.jpg

    http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/...780-speed2.jpg

    http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/17/48/68/57/bullet10.jpg

    http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/...00-215706.jpeg

    http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/...spider-man.jpg

    http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/...3309-13560.jpg

    http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/...sspeed1wr8.jpg

    http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/...34-197874.jpeg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Morgan View Post
    To answer that: Spider-Man doesn't swat or catch bullets out of the air air like some of the martial arts based characters.

    Ehhhhh


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromi View Post
    Ehhhhh
    Snip
    While I'm aware of that example, I don't like citing it because he failed to catch one of the bullets and it was during a period where his powers were crapping out on him a bit. Also they were weird future tracer bullet things? Worth noting that he was basically running away from those things for an extended period of time.

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    Well he did catch both of them, one just went through his hand. Which realistically is what should generally happen anyway since your hand isn't any more durable than any other part of you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromi View Post
    Well he did catch both of them, one just went through his hand. Which realistically is what should generally happen anyway since your hand isn't any more durable than any other part of you
    Peter's hand sure as hell is more durable than any part of a regular human.

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    so then Spiderman gets a free pass because he is.....Spiderman?
    So Spiderman.....has as many bullet time feats as Captain America....and yet he is going to blitz paste bullet timers(speedwise)?

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