Taking a Stand: I Support Janelle Asselin's critique of Teen Titans #1

[bruceleegreyhulk]

there's Rachel Aldana who at the age of 18 was the largest naturally busty woman in Britain, even bigger now due to pregnancy .

not- there are women who tend to get bustier even past there teen years base on genetics like Stepmeber Carrino, pregnancy also a factor.

there are also another naturally busty women like Hitomi Tanaka, September Carrino, Jana Defi , Merilyn Sakova and etc.

[Park Slope Pixie]

Less busty bosoms, more stunning boots on my heroines. The era of practicality is nigh over, no? Bring back the strut-worthy heels.

[Lax]

You realize that she's not a real person, and the artist didn't draw her from life, right?

Yes.

Her breasts are big because he chose to make them that way.

Sure, and equating that decision to pornography is a gross exaggeration.

[PwrdOn]

Also, as said many times, what sort of message are you sending out to girls if all the images of women and girls in your comics are of big breasted women with arse shots?

That superheroes make poor role models and that they should look elsewhere for inspiration? Even if they were all drawn with normal body proportions, the vast majority of comic book characters, male or female, would still be small-minded, self-absorbed children more concerned with being cool than helping people. This doesn't mean that they can't be entertaining to read about, but only given the proper perspective. Anyone who patterns their life after one of these characters is doing themselves and the people around them some great disservice.

[Jonah Weiland]

I'll allow this thread to go on, but only if the conversation is kept civil and respectful. There are already examples in here of crude language. Discuss it intelligently, or get out. Anyone not adhering to these rules will be banned for 7 days.

[bruceleegreyhulk]

there's Rachel Aldana who at the age of 18 was the largest naturally busty woman in Britain, even bigger now due to pregnancy .

not- there are women who tend to get bustier even past there teen years base on genetics like Stepmeber Carrino, pregnancy also a factor.

there are also another naturally busty women like Hitomi Tanaka, September Carrino, Jana Defi , Merilyn Sakova and etc.

of course none of these girls in their teen years would have look like Wonder Girl on the cover due to factors like physics, namely gravity.

[ExcelsiorPrime]

Less busty bosoms, more stunning boots on my heroines. The era of practicality is nigh over, no? Bring back the strut-worthy heels.

cosigned. it would go along way to attract new readers. Lady Viper's new shoes..tho they would be green bottoms not red.

[Pinsir]

[Don C]

Janelle Asselin is entitled to her opinion. It doesn't matter whether you agree with her or not, no one should have been subjected to the harassment she was. It's freaking sick that people would act that way.

[randomengine]

I repeat the point I made in the thank you thread. What has lead to the vitriol against the woman who critiqued the new Teen Titans cover is a sense of entitlement. It is no secret that our culture, American culture that is - I cannot speak for any other, has been dominated my male interests and attitudes. That status quo is changing and it should change. Some people have a problem with it because they felt entitled to whatever opinions they generated under this culture. Change is very scary to some people, but in many cases change is necessary.

More specifically to the Teen Titans cover, yes it objectifies Wonder Girl. Some males enjoy that. I know personally I enjoy it because I love the female body, but at the same time I understand where someone else would be offended by it and I defer to respecting others. However, I do not believe that in all cases we should aim to be non-offensive. I believe there is a place for it. Comics are an art form and as such even offensive content should exist - else how could we enjoy a good villain? The question though is should DC be aiming for offensive on their newly launching Teen Titans? Of course not. They should be setting an example. The cover fails to set a good example.

[Dark Soul # 7]

The cover is generic, the whole team posing for the first issue cover has been done since the whole superhero team thing first came up.

The particulars that make it good or bad can be discussed as people will have different assements of it. Janelle Asselin presented hers as is right and job. Is her critque perfect and do you HAVE to agree. No, NOTHING is perfect, and you don't have to agree with her, I do personally as I would like to see the general visual representation of females in comics be more equivalent to how men are visually represented. But that's not the problem here.

The problem is the reaction her critique generated.

Threats of any kind for doing a critique are juvenile and assinine and EVERYBODY should be better than that. Sadly this seems to be a thing in general in geek culture, just look at the insane and horrid reactions to Anita Sarkeesian's videos about females in video games. Geek cultures apparently need to grow up.

[Tangent Man]

Did one of G-Force defect to the Titans?!

Oh wait, that's just Nu-52 Raven!

[bruceleegreyhulk]

Janelle Asselin indeed entitled to her opinion and didn't deserve the harassment she got.

[Lax]

I prefer the original.

[George Caltsoudas]

See THIS is one of the other major problems I had with Janelle Asselin's complaints about the thickness of Wonder Girl's thighs and YOU did it here too. Aside from the breasts, you just gave LIPOSUCTION to the thighs of a healthy looking teenager. You reduced the fat on the outside and thinned out the insides (which also inadvertently draws unnecessary attention to an area that attention shouldn't be given to).

Some girls and women might object to the criticism of fat thighs and larger breasts as being regarded too sexual and thin thighs/lanky legs being the ideal. Often times it's stated that the only acceptable alternative is if the female is drawn to be overweight.