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    Quote Originally Posted by 666MasterOfPuppets View Post
    Indeed.



    No answer yet, not holding my breath really. What I asked:

    1. It seems you're actually killing nu52 Supes off. WHY? What happens to fans of THAT SM version?
    2. Why was there a new52 if you were going to return to the post-COIE version of Superman anyway?
    You should ask about New52 Superman's "fate" directly to DiDio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666MasterOfPuppets View Post
    Indeed.



    No answer yet, not holding my breath really. What I asked:

    1. It seems you're actually killing nu52 Supes off. WHY? What happens to fans of THAT SM version?
    2. Why was there a new52 if you were going to return to the post-COIE version of Superman anyway?
    Well from the interview on the other thread, it seems that it wasn't his decision to get rid of Nu52 Supes and swap him for Superdad. That was the call of someone higher up. (I think the call came from the WB themselves and above DC Comics, but that's speculation on my part). Also, it wasn't Dan Jurgens who decided to Reboot 5 years ago. It was Dan DiDio Jim Lee, and to a lesser degree, Geoff Johns. Jurgens was working on Green Arrow and Firestorm at the time if I remember correctly.THOSE are the people you should ask that question of. Not that they'll ever answer either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manofsteel1979 View Post
    Well from the interview on the other thread, it seems that it wasn't his decision to get rid of Nu52 Supes and swap him for Superdad. That was the call of someone higher up. (I think the call came from the WB themselves and above DC Comics, but that's speculation on my part). Also, it wasn't Dan Jurgens who decided to Reboot 5 years ago. It was Dan DiDio Jim Lee, and to a lesser degree, Geoff Johns. Jurgens was working on Green Arrow and Firestorm at the time if I remember correctly.THOSE are the people you should ask that question of. Not that they'll ever answer either.
    WB? Why? They they are getting to Sony/Fox level of stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tayswift View Post
    people invested 25 years just to get nothing on post crises superman, there was much more money and time invested for us.

    2 well many people reject this edgy superman, a good personality like captain america still work.
    3 and?
    4.new characters that people already forgot and doesn't care
    5. not suited to both characters and failed to create sale and good stories
    1. Like someone else has said, two wrongs don't make a right. There was no need to kill him off.
    2. Yeah, I know. A matter of personal preference. But like I said, "edgy" doesn't necessarily mean "dark", and that's important for the character.
    3. Nothing. Some fans like a powerful Superman, and I happen to be among them.
    4. Because DC (or rather the writers) didn't care to develop them. I'm pretty sure there were a few in the post-COIE days that suffered the same fate.
    5. "Not suited" according to you, which is something far from being a fact. Also, the SMWW books had some decent sales numbers, AFAIK. As for stories, wrong again. I take it you didn't read the book. It was a relationship with LOTS of room to grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666MasterOfPuppets View Post
    5. "Not suited" according to you, which is something far from being a fact. Also, the SMWW books had some decent sales numbers, AFAIK. As for stories, wrong again. I take it you didn't read the book. It was a relationship with LOTS of room to grow.
    I take it you're not familiar with Tayswift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tayswift View Post
    one things is seeing a baby and then a grownup that completely dissapointed Kara. She has almost not ties to new 52 superman, if superdad treats her well she will probably be ok with him
    Read the books, will you? Superman "disappointed Kara"? It was her confusion about the whole thing that estranged her from Clark, not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagaton View Post
    I have to wonder what you expected.
    Some hard questions, really, like why kill new52 Superman off. Also, if the interviewer asked about the PF Suoes fans who left after new52, it was only fair if he asked about the new52 fans who are leaving because of rebirth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    I take it you're not familiar with Tayswift.
    Well, it really had been a while since I last posted here regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666MasterOfPuppets View Post
    Well, it really had been a while since I last posted here regularly.
    You'll learn to know her then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manofsteel1979 View Post
    Well from the interview on the other thread, it seems that it wasn't his decision to get rid of Nu52 Supes and swap him for Superdad. That was the call of someone higher up. (I think the call came from the WB themselves and above DC Comics, but that's speculation on my part). Also, it wasn't Dan Jurgens who decided to Reboot 5 years ago. It was Dan DiDio Jim Lee, and to a lesser degree, Geoff Johns. Jurgens was working on Green Arrow and Firestorm at the time if I remember correctly.THOSE are the people you should ask that question of. Not that they'll ever answer either.
    I did send those guys a few tweets. And as was expected, they didn't reply. They only answer to the fans who congratulate them. Also, if what you say is indeed the case, I wouldn't be surprised. A stupid move, IMO, but not surprising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    You should ask about New52 Superman's "fate" directly to DiDio.
    I did. As expected, no answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    You'll learn to know her then.
    Yeah, I'm already starting to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666MasterOfPuppets View Post
    I did. As expected, no answer.
    Perhaps the answers will come after Superleague.

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    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephens2177 View Post
    Legacy is key with Rebirth,so we are getting legacy characters for superman,which equals jon.not to mention DC stumbled into a nicely done "son of superman" story with jon during Convergence,so when they got the chance to use it they jumped at it.
    Jon is not a "legacy character." At best he's an Elseworlds relic. Wally West and Tim Drake are bona fide legacy characters. This Jon creature? Not so much.

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    It's hard to talk about a "legacy" character for Superman. There is only one Superman, and that is Kal-El (from whatever universe we talk about).

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