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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
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    We know that Caliban was working with the Reavers at one point, before agreeing to help Logan care for Charles. Its possible he may have been responsible for hunting down at least some of the survivors.
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    Doesn't quite add up. spoilers:
    The Westchester incident happened one year before the events of Logan. Also Caliban has seemingly been estranged from working with Transigen for many years based on dialogue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
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    We know that Caliban was working with the Reavers at one point, before agreeing to help Logan care for Charles. Its possible he may have been responsible for hunting down at least some of the survivors.
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    I doubt they would pick a fight with the X-Men before the incident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeCBFanboy View Post

    All of this talk makes me realize that X-Force has to be set in the future post Logan otherwise Cable presents a plot hole, on top of fucking up his mission.
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    Cloning as been introduced. So Cable can have his parents be clones of Scott and Jean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Sin View Post
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    Cloning as been introduced. So Cable can have his parents be clones of Scott and Jean.
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    That's not actually what I meant. spoilers:
    Putting some serious though into in hurt my fricking head. But we know Cable comes from the future. Whatever future that is will be years after Logan. We know that something BAD has to happen to force him to want to go back in time to change the timeline around. Now this is where the comment about him presenting a plot hole comes into play if the X-Force movie really is set in the present. I simply cannot see him coming from the future into the past when Deadpool 2 takes place, to form the X-Force in a present day setting. Only for everything that he accomplishes to lead up to what happens in Logan. He's not stupid enough to let the Westchester incident and Transigen halting the X-gene happen if he has a shot at stopping it. And I doubt the events leading up to Logan will be altered in any way due to time travel because Simon Kinberg is already talking with the studio about what types of movies can be done in a setting post Logan outside of an X-23 solo.

    James Mangold gave Ryan Reynolds and Joe Carnahan a gift when it comes to the world building. He set Logan years away from the rest of the continuity. He moved the X-men out of the picture without killing them all so that cameos are still possible. He kept working pieces of the overall continuity and didn't just throw it all away. He gave us a better M-day than in the comics imo which just so happens to be the best playground for a violent team such as the X-Force. Honestly Reynolds and Carnahan don't even have to write much outside of characters. The world has already been set up for them.
    end of spoilers They should just let Cable try to alter some world changing events in the 2030's that directly effect his future, only to have his time jump screwed up and land in the wrong year, 2018 or whenever they set Deadpool 2. At the end of that movie maybe his ship Graymalkin is restored to working condition and he attempts to do what he originally set out to do. Deadpool & friends tag along for whatever reason they come up with. I'd use that to segue into an X-Force movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeCBFanboy View Post
    Where did they confirm that? We know that 600 mutants were injured in the Westchester event in 2028, and 7 mutants were killed. Only several of those 7 were said to be X-men.
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    I'm going with the idea that the 7 X-Men who died were the "big ones" from these films.

    -Cyclops.
    -Jean.
    -Storm.
    -Beast.
    -Kitty.
    -Iceman.
    -Rogue.

    It makes the most sense to me on several different levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher007 View Post
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    I'm going with the idea that the 7 X-Men who died were the "big ones" from these films.

    -Cyclops.
    -Jean.
    -Storm.
    -Beast.
    -Kitty.
    -Iceman.
    -Rogue.

    It makes the most sense to me on several different levels.
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    To reiterate, they're not saying "seven X-Men." They said seven mutants, INCLUDING several X-Men. So that would probably be no more than half the fatalities.

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    I just saw the movie again today, and I'm pretty sure that it says "and including 7 members of the X-Men."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher007 View Post
    I just saw the movie again today, and I'm pretty sure that it says "and including 7 members of the X-Men."

    Voice on the radio as Logan is driving from the casino
    Inaudible________ "casino hotel in Oklahoma city, where at least 400 guests were stricken with temporary paralysis yesterday." "Many are noting a similarity to the Westchester incident over a year ago that left over 600 injured and took the lives of 7 mutants, including several of the X-___" And that's when Logan turns of the radio.

    I have the audio front and center.
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    Hmm, fair enough.

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    They say several of the X-

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaponX View Post
    They say several of the X-
    And several =/= seven. Several by definition would be 3-4, with the rest likely being students.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeCBFanboy View Post

    Voice on the radio as Logan is driving from the casino
    Inaudible________ "casino hotel in Oklahoma city, where at least 400 guests were stricken with temporary paralysis yesterday." "Many are noting a similarity to the Westchester incident over a year ago that left over 600 injured and took the lives of 7 mutants, including several of the X-___" And that's when Logan turns of the radio.

    I have the audio front and center.
    Fox is doing a decent job of scrubbing Youtube and other sites from playing scenes from the movie. Seems like quite a few have been taken down.

    Any chance you have the link to the audio? It would be cool to hear it again.

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    Looks like Logan threw up another $17 million for the weekend. The theater count isn't down all that much, but I can't seem to find information on the actual number of screens it's showing on. I do know it's not getting as many showings, but shows are still selling out (especially at the reserved seating venues).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
    Looks like Logan threw up another $17 million for the weekend. The theater count isn't down all that much, but I can't seem to find information on the actual number of screens it's showing on. I do know it's not getting as many showings, but shows are still selling out (especially at the reserved seating venues).
    It's gone from opening weekend of 4,071 theaters down to below 3,700. Which seems a normal reduction when you consider all the movies coming out that theaters need to make room for.

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    Exact theater count was 3,687 (Logan) versus 4,210 (Beauty and the Beast). Though then you have to consider how many multiple screens are dedicated to BatB versus Logan now starting to reduce its screen count.

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