Out of Obscurity: Who is your favorite hero who hasn't been seen in years???

[JudicatorPrime]

Wouldn't mind seeing an updated version of this group.

The Liberators
The Wasp (Janet)
Valkyrie
Medusa
Black Widow
Scarlet Witch


Edit: Special shout out to the individuals who keep insisting that classic Marvel comics weren't political in any way, shape, or form.

[Venomous Mask]

Vengeance, the original one with the brutal, trippy motorcycle, not the green guy.

[Johnrevenge]

Wouldn't mind seeing an updated version of this group.

The Liberators
The Wasp (Janet)
Valkyrie
Medusa
Black Widow
Scarlet Witch


Edit: Special shout out to the individuals who keep insisting that classic Marvel comics weren't political in any way, shape, or form.

Would love to see that team again together

[John Ossie]

Hmm...I haven't seen Bill Foster for a while, does he count? Or have I missed the issue where he came back?

[kilderkin]

Wouldn't mind seeing an updated version of this group.

The Liberators
The Wasp (Janet)
Valkyrie
Medusa
Black Widow
Scarlet Witch


Edit: Special shout out to the individuals who keep insisting that classic Marvel comics weren't political in any way, shape, or form.

of course some books had politics in them, Henry gyrich in avengers is a very strong example

what I do think has been more extant in recent years, is that some books had comments on real world situations by some creative external to the internal mythos

And I do think some books became somewhat preachy as appose to using real world situations as a stimulus and using internal mythos analogy to tell a story

or I suppose what I mean is that some books were being used to expound the views of the creators about their real world views rather than finding inspiration from the real world and producing in mythos analogy

the good or bad of that is up for debate and certainly it might just be that we as readers are just more aware of it

I feel

Certainly some classic books were explicit propaganda pieces by design given the world period they were made in, and I'm not just thinking marvel here

[kilderkin]

Would love to see that team again together

jen sort of put one together during the red hulk run, and I always though A Force was an update on this idea

I liked the first couple arcs of that book a lot

[Triniking1234]

Lady Liberators already came back as Fraction's Defenders and A-Force.

Where's Black Knight?

[MajorHoy]

of course some books had politics in them, Henry gyrich in avengers is a very strong example

Just read where he was involved in Winter Soldier being sent to that Russian gulag back in 2011's Captain America run, and now I'm thinking / afraid to see how Gyrich would fit in to our current PoTUS' administration.

[JudicatorPrime]

of course some books had politics in them, Henry gyrich in avengers is a very strong example

what I do think has been more extant in recent years, is that some books had comments on real world situations by some creative external to the internal mythos

And I do think some books became somewhat preachy as appose to using real world situations as a stimulus and using internal mythos analogy to tell a story

or I suppose what I mean is that some books were being used to expound the views of the creators about their real world views rather than finding inspiration from the real world and producing in mythos analogy

the good or bad of that is up for debate and certainly it might just be that we as readers are just more aware of it

I feel

Certainly some classic books were explicit propaganda pieces by design given the world period they were made in, and I'm not just thinking marvel here

Most mythical struggles are political struggles. I think far too often readers gloss over that fact, so that when a writer does smack them squarely in the nose with something more substantive than a passing allusion, they reject, deflect, or disengage. You've somehow ruined the matrix for them.

[kilderkin]

Most mythical struggles are political struggles. I think far too often readers gloss over that fact, so that when a writer does smack them squarely in the nose with something more substantive than a passing allusion, they reject, deflect, or disengage. You've somehow ruined the matrix for them.

Yeah it's more overt now I feel in its commentary if the real world, it feels like it's tacked on in many ways im8

For me that's less fun as it feels like the writer is trying to convince me of their point of view, which is probably unfair of me

that said I'm fine with real world politics commentary in my books, I just don't find the current way it feels preachy to me to my taste

Of course others feel differently

[joebleau]

Wouldn't mind seeing an updated version of this group.

The Liberators
The Wasp (Janet)
Valkyrie
Medusa
Black Widow
Scarlet Witch


Edit: Special shout out to the individuals who keep insisting that classic Marvel comics weren't political in any way, shape, or form.

And call them Justice Warriors ?

[Digifiend]

Hmm...I haven't seen Bill Foster for a while, does he count? Or have I missed the issue where he came back?

Hasn't he been dead since the first Civil War?

[L.R Johansson]

I feel certainly some classic books were explicit propaganda pieces by design given the world period they were made in, and I'm not just thinking marvel here

No sh*t...

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[Michael Watkins]

And call them Justice Warriors ?

wasn't that Vance Astrovik's team?

[Michael Watkins]

Hasn't he been dead since the first Civil War?

he's a digital consciousness thanks to Hank Pym playing god. it's Tom's story now. he's out of prison.

Just read where he was involved in Winter Soldier being sent to that Russian gulag back in 2011's Captain America run, and now I'm thinking / afraid to see how Gyrich would fit in to our current PoTUS' administration.

coincidentally, I read that story over the weekend (great stuff). Gyrich had a lot of Russian friends.