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    Default Why aren't their any teenage versions of.

    I was just wandering

    WONDER WOMAN has WONDER GIRL

    BATMAN has RED ROBIN

    SUPERMAN has SUPERGIRL/SUPERBOY

    AQUAMAN has AQUALAD

    why isn't their any TEENAGE SIDEKICKS for

    BLACK CANARY
    GREEN LANTERN
    THE ATOM
    HAWKMAN
    RED TORNADO

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    Not popular characters enough to make a sidekick that's a teen.

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    Hawkman has a partner that isn't a teenager, leaving little room for a sidekick. Besides there's always Hector and Golden Eagle.
    Red Tornado is almost exclusively a JL member, and was even introduced with the League as someone literally created to fight them, so he doesn't have many solo operations.
    Atom/Black Canary I'm unsure of, but not everyone needs one.
    At the beginning, the concept of Green Lantern was one lantern per sector, and even without that later on, it was too late to add a sidekick. Besides, humans are reckless enough to hire a kid as a partner. The Guardians likely don't want that as they're wiser beings than humans.

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    I mean, Golden Eagle was kind of Hawkfamily like...
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    I figured there wasn't a teen or child Green Lantern because it's not very believable. How is a kid supposed to be overcoming fear in the same way as Hal and John? I just find it hard to believe a child could perform the same duties and that there aren't thousands of adults more capable. Most kids would run away from Mongul or hell Bolphunga.
    Of course, I dare. I'm Hal Jordan.

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    Hawkman had Golden Eagle.

    Green Lantern and Atom sometimes are young adults, depending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warzon View Post
    I was just wandering

    WONDER WOMAN has WONDER GIRL

    BATMAN has RED ROBIN

    SUPERMAN has SUPERGIRL/SUPERBOY

    AQUAMAN has AQUALAD

    why isn't their any TEENAGE SIDEKICKS for

    BLACK CANARY
    GREEN LANTERN
    THE ATOM
    HAWKMAN
    RED TORNADO
    The whole bit about "kid sidekicks" is a sort-of dated concept from back in the Golden Age, when many (but not all) of the main adult characters got younger versions to be more identifiable for the kiddies who read the stories.
    Some you missed include:

    Green Arrow and Speedy (who grew up to be Arsenal)


    Sandman and Sandy (the Golden Boy)

    and, reversing the trend so that the "sidekick" was actually the adult:

    Star Spangled Kid and Stripsey

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    As for Green Lantern: back before the Crisis, Arisia was a teenager. Immediately after te Crisis, when the Guardians took a leave of absence, she moved to Earth to pursue her crush on Hal Jordan, and subconsciously used her ring to artificially age herself to adulthood. So yeah, there was once a “Teen Lantern”. (When Johns brought her back after Green Lantern: Rebirth, he retconned away her initial teenage phase, most likely to spare Hal of ever having been a cradle-robber.)

    As for now: the pseudo-military nature of the Green Lantern Corps makes it unlikely that there will ever be another teenaged Green Lantern. However, I could see one of the other Spectrum Corps recruiting a teenager into their ranks. The most natural option would be a Blue Lantern, since there's already a dependency of the Blue Light on the Green Lanterns. Another possibility that I've been thinking about lately would be to introduce a N52 version of Harm (from the Young Justice series, where he was a sociopath who killed his sister for power) and induct him into the Indigo Tribe (given that their M.O. is to forcibly rehabilitate sociopaths by imbuing them with empathy).

    As for the others:
    • Black Canary doesn't have a teenaged sidekick; but one of the Birds of Prey runs gave her a preteen ward who could hold her own against Damian Wayne: Sin, I think she was called.
    • Hawkman had a teenaged counterpart among the early Teen Titans and Titans West: Charlie Parker, a.k.a. Golden Eagle.
    • Red Tornado was at one point given a family of androids expanding on the elemental theme, including a teenaged fire-based model called Red Inferno.
    • During the “One Year Later” relaunch of the Teen Titans, we saw files on a number of previously unknown teenaged superheroes, including one called “Molecule” who was a teenage counterpart to the Atom. He didn't last long, and was killed by the Terror Titans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warzon View Post
    BLACK CANARY
    GREEN LANTERN
    THE ATOM
    HAWKMAN
    RED TORNADO
    Green Lantern had Tom....
    Hawkman had Hawkgirl

    Red Tornado and Atom weren't popular enough characters...

    Black Canary WAS a sidekick to Green Arrow for quite a while.


    The key to most sidekicks, is that you need to have your own book before they REALLY start getting them. It's a way of revitalizing or growing the character... If they are stuck in team books all the time, or already HAVE a sidekick... then it doesn't happen.

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    because it's not the 60's anymore lol

    sidekicks are lame, specially if they end in "girl" or "lad". Can you imagine "Black Canary Girl" or "Little Canary" haha?

    And Hal had Tom Kalmaku for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poroto678 View Post
    because it's not the 60's anymore lol

    sidekicks are lame, specially if they end in "girl" or "lad". Can you imagine "Black Canary Girl" or "Little Canary" haha?

    And Hal had Tom Kalmaku for years.
    I could picture Black Canary and Songbird.

    I would say 'girl and lad' were the oddities of sidekicks for every aqualad and batgirl.... there was a robin or speedy or kid flash or something 'somewhat' original.

    But yeah, Black Canary was never cool enough for a sidekick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poroto678 View Post
    sidekicks are lame, specially if they end in "girl" or "lad". Can you imagine "Black Canary Girl" or "Little Canary" haha?
    “Sin”. Her name is “Sin”.
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    I'm curious why so many people seem to hate the idea of teen sidekicks... but so many others LOVE these characters and clamor for more and more Teen Titans/Young justice/New Mutants etc...

    Every time they try to restart something and the Cassandra caines/spoiler/whatever new young character disappears... riots start.

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    Sidekicks are a very old device in story telling. The hero needs someone to talk with, otherwise it just gets weird having the hero talk to himself--and when Sam Beckett talks to Al, everybody thinks he's talking to himself. Don Quixote had Sancho Panza, Hamlet had Horatio.

    The kid being a sidekick in comics probably developed out of the comic strips--which were much more popular than comic books, originally. For example, in the comic strips you had DiCK TRACY by Chester Gould with Junior Tracy being Dick's adopted son and sidekick. And there's TERRY AND THE PIRATES, the hugely popular and influential adventure strip by Milt Caniff. Terry was Terry Lee, a young boy. He was the nominal lead character in the strip--his sidekick, of sorts, was the adult Pat Ryan.

    In comic books, the kid played second banana to the title character. But not always, as Kid Eternity and the Star Spangled Kid both had adult sidekicks--and the kid groups usually had an adult hero to keep them honest, such as the Boy Commandos with Captain Rip Carter, the Newsboy Legion with the Guardian and the Little Wise Guys with Daredevil (Daredevil started out as the lead character but slowly disappeared into the background).

    The original Green Lantern, Alan Scott, didn't have a kid sidekick, but he had Doiby Dickles who probably went to sidekick school to get the job, as he fits the description of a sidekick perfectly. Alan Scott was a dab hand with the ladies, so you could count those women as occasional sidekicks, too. And then there was his dog, Streak the Wonder Dog. Streak proved so popular that he virtually took over Green Lantern's comic books. Eventually, after GL went into limbo, the concept of a Wonder Dog survived with REX THE WONDER DOG--who had his own kid sidekick.

    Hal Jordan had Thomas "Pieface" Kalmaku as his sidekick. For awhile, you could say that Green Arrow and Green Lantern were each other's sidekick. And in the '70s, GL adopted a space-alien he named Itty, who was a sidekick of unguessed magnitude.

    After Green Arrow split with Speedy, he spent most of his time with Hal and Dinah--and again you could say that Black Canary was his sidekick or the other way around. Now, originally Black Canary was a second banana to the lead character, Johnny Thunder. Johnny had had his own junior sidekick, Peachy Pet.

    As the case of Black Canary demonstrates, sidekicks and second bananas can't be trusted--they will take over a feature if the lead character is not careful. That's what happened to the Spectre when Percival Popp the Super-Cop took over that feature.

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    BLACK CANARY worked with Starling in Birds of Prey. Green Lantern corps has the slightly younger Kyle Rayner. It is possible that Ray Palmer might work with the younger Ryan Choi. HAWKMAN has golden eagle.

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