Uh, +1?
They're both pretty unorganized and lack a lot of my favorite characters.
It depends on the context. If all women look like that, and men are exaggerated to look hot too, I'm only going to wonder about the practicality of the costumes. If everyone looks normal, but the 'hot' woman looks like psylocke (twists liek a pretzel, boobsocks, huge wedgie) or the men look unattractive, I'm going to have a problem. However, I don't like sexism in my comic, even both ways.
I fixed some errors, by the way. Nope. I tend to go by genre or character.
Here's an add-on to the discussion: How many people know superheroes started out aimed at women and the divide between female and male buyers of comics only began in the Cold War?
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Heck, Spider-Man comics and the Spidey board here are more Lovers, Deceit, and Peter Parker than they're about punch ups. I think sometimes (male) superhero fans protest a little too hard about soap and melodrama. Traditionally, Lex Luthor is a threat to Superman every few months or once a year, but the "threat" of Lois Lane is monthly.
Patsy Walker on TV! Patsy Walker in new comics! Patsy Walker in your brain! And Jessica Jones is the new Nancy! (Oh, and read the Comics Cube.)
Yeah, I am not sure what RegalSin is talking about, we all buy comics for the dramatic stories and art.
Male or female, it does not matter.
Men can try to deny it all they want, but they like that drama, too.
I bought my first romance comics per suggestion of a male.
So.
"All it takes for sexism to prosper is for good men to see nothing."
Patsy Walker on TV! Patsy Walker in new comics! Patsy Walker in your brain! And Jessica Jones is the new Nancy! (Oh, and read the Comics Cube.)
The "soap opera" aspect of comics I read is what I enjoy the most. The fighting is necessary at some point usually, but I like seeing
what happens to these people the rest of the time. Since adults have romantic relationships in life, that's something the writer can
expand upon to cause the protagonist problems, just like any life situation, and readers can relate. All fighting would get old quick.
One of my goals is to own every copy of Amazing Spider-Man (1963 series) up to #240.
I'm 97% there. The slow down is simple, I collect high-grade and high grade single-digit issues cost a bundle. So I want to see these in person before delving into my handbag.
My being female is completely irrelevant. Or do male buyers think otherwise?
Kings 21:23
And of Jezebel also spake the LORD, saying, The dogs shall eat Jezebel by the wall of Jezreel.
Now this is interesting! I am aware that certain genres such as the late 1940s superheroine comics (Timely), romance, the whole slew of Tessie the Typist/Millie the Model books, etc. were created specifically to appeal to female readers, but I've never read that superheroes as a whole were designed for that audience.
Can you supply any sources, MG? I've love to read up on this.
DC and Marvel do start, in their marketing, to differentiate hardcore in the early 60s. The letters pages for JLA start sniping at girls and women for no particular reason other than it's not a girl's title, but Superman and Green Lantern maybe are. Marvel couldn't hardly mention Millie or Patsy without simultaneously soliciting the book and mocking who might read it/distancing its superhero readers from those comics. And, the ratio of ads aimed at boys or girls changes, too, around that time, in different titles/lines. You are dramatically less likely to see "100 miniature dolls can be yours!" in the same book as "scale submarine! impress your friends!" in the 60s than you were in the 40s or well into the 50s.
This would be around the same time that Marvel started taking shots at their Direct Competition, and vice versa, despite not being the top two publishers at the time and Marvel being carried by DC. The insults served as a way to remind audiences of the two options (but no other options) and cement the idea of camps to support. I think, ultimately, much of the gender divide in those 60s superhero comics was probably just that. (And, probably worth mentioning that this is an era where c-level artists would try to get their ex-girlfriends drummed out of comics, young male writers were getting a much easier foot in the door even by their own admission and actively working out their personal, early, dating and gender issues, the underground comix movement was exploding almost simultaneously to the Silver Age, and that we see gender divides occur along all these lines, too frequently, as well.)
Anecdotally, at least. I'm not going to swear that it doesn't just seem that way with my casual engagement with original issues from those eras and stuff from reading memoirs and histories, from Trina Robbins to tell-alls.
Patsy Walker on TV! Patsy Walker in new comics! Patsy Walker in your brain! And Jessica Jones is the new Nancy! (Oh, and read the Comics Cube.)