X Men comic books these days. Things sure have changed

[dragonmp93]

You can't simply reduce the 05 to taking a spot they had a storyline which defined the X-Universe over 3 crossovers and that eventually went no where. It's a simple matter of holding the franchise hostage until the story was resolved. Unfortunately it never was.

Well, it's not like the editorial had any other plans for the X-men, is it ?.

[ExodusCloak]

Well, it's not like the editorial had any other plans for the X-men, is it ?.

No they just picked a really bad idea and created one of the worst crossovers ever. And unfortunately it happened to be the 50th anniversary year for the X-Men. Which ultimately was detrimental to the franchise. Whether they deliberately did it on purpose to sabotage or they just lap up what Bendis says. Story and direction wise it hurt the franchise.

[Galerion]

You can't simply reduce the 05 to taking a spot they had a storyline which defined the X-Universe over 3 crossovers and that eventually went no where. It's a simple matter of holding the franchise hostage until the story was resolved. Unfortunately it never was.

I remember UXM having it's own plot. You know Cyclops being all revolutionary, the last will of Charles Xavier and all that stuff. Granted it wasn't any better but saying the O5 dictated everything is just false.

[ExodusCloak]

I remember UXM having it's own plot. You know Cyclops being all revolutionary, the last will of Charles Xavier and all that stuff. Granted it wasn't any better but saying the O5 dictated everything is just false.

You mean when the O5 came over to Uncanny X-Men and became students there? So we had them in both books? And when Woods X-Men, Uncanny X-Men were put on hold so we could have 2 Jeans, 2 Cyclops, 3 Beasts, 3 Iceman and 2 Angels waltzing around. Where the following X-Men crossovers were O5 centric with Black Vortex and The trial of Jean Grey?

How Beasts meddling with time travel and bringing the O5 to the present was a theme that resonated throughout all books and was not fully dealt with even in the Uncanny X-Men 600 issue. They were the prime theme.

[Galerion]

You mean when the O5 came over to Uncanny X-Men and became students there? So we had them in both books? And when Woods X-Men, Uncanny X-Men were put on hold so we could have 2 Jeans, 2 Cyclops, 3 Beasts, 3 Iceman and 2 Angels waltzing around. Where the following X-Men crossovers were O5 centric with Black Vortex and The trial of Jean Grey?

How Beasts meddling with time travel and bringing the O5 to the present was a theme that resonated throughout all books and was not fully dealt with even in the Uncanny X-Men 600 issue. They were the prime theme.

BV and ToFG both only involved ANXM though and nobody else cared about it, right? So again it may have been an important part but it was not everything. Besides ANXM was the highest-selling X-Men book followed by UXM. Both were written by the same writer in Bendis who is one of the most influential writers at Marvel if we like it or not. So of course things happened as they did.

[ExodusCloak]

BV and ToFG both only involved ANXM though and nobody else cared about it, right? So again it may have been an important part but it was not everything. Besides ANXM was the highest-selling X-Men book followed by UXM. Both were written by the same writer in Bendis who is one of the most influential writers at Marvel if we like it or not. So of course things happened as they did.

BV and TOFG and BOTA were unfortunately the very few X-overs we got. I'm trying to think of other X-Office crossovers that happened during those three years and no more come to mind. Of course it was everything because it locked down a lot of books in year one. No resolution after BOTA. Beasts plot was locked on being a time abuser and nothing came of it in the end. Not even a slap on the wrist. Cyclops obsession and flip flopping and younger Cyclops temporary death was not even dealt with.

Luckily the current All New X-Men is one of the poorer X-Books. And might get scrapped sooner then later. That would be the first step in the right direction. They're dead weights thanks to not being the centre of the X-Franchise's story.

And just from what you typed there perhaps giving a writer more then one book in the same franchise is a mistake. Just looking at WaTXM and Amazing with Aaron, UXM & ANX with Bendis and EXM and OML with Lemuire. One book will suffer and sometimes both in Aarons case.

[dragonmp93]

You mean when the O5 came over to Uncanny X-Men and became students there? So we had them in both books? And when Woods X-Men, Uncanny X-Men were put on hold so we could have 2 Jeans, 2 Cyclops, 3 Beasts, 3 Iceman and 2 Angels waltzing around. Where the following X-Men crossovers were O5 centric with Black Vortex and The trial of Jean Grey?

How Beasts meddling with time travel and bringing the O5 to the present was a theme that resonated throughout all books and was not fully dealt with even in the Uncanny X-Men 600 issue. They were the prime theme.

Well, like i said, Marvel wasnt planning to do anything with the X-men anyways.

BV and TOFG and BOTA were unfortunately the very few X-overs we got. I'm trying to think of other X-Office crossovers that happened during those three years and no more come to mind. Of course it was everything because it locked down a lot of books in year one. No resolution after BOTA. Beasts plot was locked on being a time abuser and nothing came of it in the end. Not even a slap on the wrist. Cyclops obsession and flip flopping and younger Cyclops temporary death was not even dealt with.

Luckily the current All New X-Men is one of the poorer X-Books. And might get scrapped sooner then later. That would be the first step in the right direction. They're dead weights thanks to not being the centre of the X-Franchise's story.

And just from what you typed there perhaps giving a writer more then one book in the same franchise is a mistake. Just looking at WaTXM and Amazing with Aaron, UXM & ANX with Bendis and EXM and OML with Lemuire. One book will suffer and sometimes both in Aarons case.

You know, im pretty sure that if ANXM gets cancelled, Marvel is not going to replace it with something else.