Wayne Enterprise vs Stark Enterprise vs Lex Corp

[MichaelC]

He hasn't really lost it as often as some people think. He's a lot like Phoenix and dying that way. One of his supposed loses was when he was in another universe and thought dead, so it was simply sold while he wasn't there to defend it. He's also given it away more than once for personal reasons. Him losing it because he was actually defeated by the prep of another character has happened how many times? Let's see, well there's Stane which was one-sided prep, and...uh...and.....

As for him having nothing comparable to the Ra's battles, are you serious? The Mandarin? AIM?

[da noble savage]

I think stark could maybe make more money in the long run with his tech. But if it's just regular corporate take over with out tech then tony lose's.

[big_adventure]

Bruce has more money. Wayne Enterprises is a much bigger company than Stark's, with a 100 billion annual income. It's not just technology and defense, it's foods, shipping, medical, and entertainment. It also absorbed a lot of Lex's holdings.

Tony has the resources to build a freaking dyson sphere. And a city a 1000 years more advanced than anything on Marvel Earth. Both of those things take resources that make 100 billion look like the **** I find in my couch cushions after a party.

[big_adventure]

He hasn't really lost it as often as some people think. He's a lot like Phoenix and dying that way. One of his supposed loses was when he was in another universe and thought dead, so it was simply sold while he wasn't there to defend it. He's also given it away more than once for personal reasons. Him losing it because he was actually defeated by the prep of another character has happened how many times? Let's see, well there's Stane which was one-sided prep, and...uh...and.....

As for him having nothing comparable to the Ra's battles, are you serious? The Mandarin? AIM?

Supporting this:

Stane was the only one who took his company, and he had massive one-sided prep plus he abused two things Tony's just not all that weak to anymore.

Outside of that, he's sold and given away his company a few times, and made new multi-hundred-billion companies each time. It was sold off when he was presumed dead (because he was, you know, dead) once as well.

[Anarchist]

Bruce has more money.

Don't think so.
Stark financed a bloody Dyson Sphere around the sun.

EDIT: High Five to big_adventure

[abmccray]

Tony has the resources to build a freaking dyson sphere. And a city a 1000 years more advanced than anything on Marvel Earth. Both of those things take resources that make 100 billion look like the **** I find in my couch cushions after a party.

Marvel's tech in general is far, far ahead of DC's to the point where much "smaller" companies are creating things at sizes/levels that shouldn't be possible with the monetary resources they have. For instance, Tony hired Shiar engineers to build it, and didn't just pull those resources from Earth. That's not a pure 1-1 statement of money, based on "built tech" because they're working in two different places. WayneCorp has a higher stated profit than Stark's company, and that aligns with it being a much larger company in its universe.

Wayne Corp is larger, more profitable, and Wayne is a better businessman, when he bothers, and is better at this type of prep (outsmarting individuals in a long game as opposed to building something better than someone else).

[MidTierHero]

Wayne wins. He's easily the better businessman when compared to Wayne, and finding the weaknesses of people and organizations is pretty much his thing, along with having numerous contingency plans for people trying to do the same thing to him.

[big_adventure]

Marvel's tech in general is far, far ahead of DC's to the point where much "smaller" companies are creating things at sizes/levels that shouldn't be possible with the monetary resources they have. For instance, Tony hired Shiar engineers to build it, and didn't just pull those resources from Earth. That's not a pure 1-1 statement of money, based on "built tech" because they're working in two different places. WayneCorp has a higher stated profit than Stark's company, and that aligns with it being a much larger company in its universe.

Wayne Corp is larger, more profitable, and Wayne is a better businessman, when he bothers, and is better at this type of prep (outsmarting individuals in a long game as opposed to building something better than someone else).

No, it really doesn't, and neither does it's owner.

Tony's company was the biggest company on Marvel Earth for a long, long time. Tony himself was the richest man in the world, and even when not that, was usually in the top handful. Bruce has to go to great lengths to hide the millions he spends on Batman related stuff. Tony, even when private, spent the tens of billions Iron Man costs without anyone noticing.

Tony deals with **** on a weekly basis in business that Bruce, frankly, doesn't have a clue how to handle. Batman has never been associated with Wayne enterprises, so WayneE generally faces only conventional stuff. He does it well, but seriously - like 5 percent of Batman myth is Wayne and the stuff around it. Iron Man has always been associated with Stark's businesses - as "an employee" before, and as the man himself after, so he gets supers all up in his business as a matter of course, not to mention the occasional super who just hates Stark without knowing his secret (back when it was a secret). At least 30-40 percent of Iron Man's solo stuff is directly related to Stark business.

[carrrnuttt]

No, it really doesn't, and neither does it's owner.

Tony's company was the biggest company on Marvel Earth for a long, long time. Tony himself was the richest man in the world, and even when not that, was usually in the top handful. Bruce has to go to great lengths to hide the millions he spends on Batman related stuff. Tony, even when private, spent the tens of billions Iron Man costs without anyone noticing.

Tony deals with **** on a weekly basis in business that Bruce, frankly, doesn't have a clue how to handle. Batman has never been associated with Wayne enterprises, so WayneE generally faces only conventional stuff. He does it well, but seriously - like 5 percent of Batman myth is Wayne and the stuff around it. Iron Man has always been associated with Stark's businesses - as "an employee" before, and as the man himself after, so he gets supers all up in his business as a matter of course, not to mention the occasional super who just hates Stark without knowing his secret (back when it was a secret). At least 30-40 percent of Iron Man's solo stuff is directly related to Stark business.

This.

Stark E stomps.

For all intents and purposes, Wayne E is just a normal corporation run by a normal guy. It is only attacked by outside forces because they want tech that it happens to have (tech that's MUCH weaker than Stark E throws in the trash on Tuesdays, I might add) or in the very rare instances where the villain knows Batman's identity.

Stark E is openly owned by a known superhero who finances other superheroes. Stark E gets both frontal and backdoor assaulted by villains on a regular basis. The fact that Tony can up and build new companies from scratch that exceeds Wayne E's resources many times over (as opposed to Bruce who inherited most of his), shows Tony's technological and business acumen.

[wjowski]

Wayne wins. He's easily the better businessman when compared to Wayne, and finding the weaknesses of people and organizations is pretty much his thing, along with having numerous contingency plans for people trying to do the same thing to him.

Which is of limited use when Stark just has more and better products to put on the market. Wayne can lobby, scheme, and backroom deal all he wants but Stark's output is going to leave him the dust regardless.

[big_adventure]

Even the whole "better businessman" thing isn"t really born out in facts. Bruce inherited a massive company and made it somewhat bigger. Tony did the same, then lost it, built a totally new company, built it up bigger than before, sold that, built a new one, built it bigger than before, "died", company got sold because he was dead, came back, built a new one again, built it bigger than anything else, lost/sold/got blown up/got skrulled out of that, built another venture, got it massively moving, gave it to his girlfriend, left the planet, came back again and somehow developed enough resources to build dyson spheres, jupiter space stations, moon bases and Iron Metropolis (that got the Elsa-creates-life gloss-over).

[Daenarys Stormborn]

Luthor stomps. An army of Superman's or Bizaroo are leagues beyond anything the other two could put together, or that would be useful to the goverment as a weapon.

[big_adventure]

Luthor stomps. An army of Superman's or Bizaroo are leagues beyond anything the other two could put together, or that would be useful to the goverment as a weapon.

Someone didn't understand the thread.

[Daenarys Stormborn]

Someone didn't understand the thread.

I understood it just fine. You're just not thinking of the dangers of hundreds of Superman's plotting against the other-sides company. A war in the corporate landscape is most likely to be one by the CEO who has a network of people as smart as him in every aspect of his company and society at large.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Doesn't Tony also foot the bill for any collateral damage caused by the Avengers (sans Thor, who just drops off a bag of gold or something)?