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    Quote Originally Posted by Daenarys Stormborn View Post
    I understood it just fine. You're just not thinking of the dangers of hundreds of Superman's plotting against the other-sides company. A war in the corporate landscape is most likely to be one by the CEO who has a network of people as smart as him in every aspect of his company and society at large.
    Which is something Luthor would never make, since he is jealous and suspicious of Superman and would never deliberately make a Clone of Kal that had full cognitive facilities or free will, much less an army of them.

    Which is not to say he won't do it by accident, which just means that LexCorp gets torn apart by a bunch of angry/confused/malevolent/lobotomized/amorous/etc... Superclones.
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    I don't know how Lexcorp is doing in Nu52, but after One Year Later, Wayne Enterprises had bought it and left Lex penniless on the street. If he had a secret army of Superman clones, he probably would have used them then.
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    Stark takes it. For all the stuff said about Bruce, doesn't he let Lucious Fox run the day-to-day of Wayne E?


    Stark can just build a better phone(which he has) that would make Stark enterprises/international/Fujiwara more money Wayne E ever made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Even the whole "better businessman" thing isn"t really born out in facts. Bruce inherited a massive company and made it somewhat bigger. Tony did the same, then lost it, built a totally new company, built it up bigger than before, sold that, built a new one, built it bigger than before, "died", company got sold because he was dead, came back, built a new one again, built it bigger than anything else, lost/sold/got blown up/got skrulled out of that, built another venture, got it massively moving, gave it to his girlfriend, left the planet, came back again and somehow developed enough resources to build dyson spheres, jupiter space stations, moon bases and Iron Metropolis (that got the Elsa-creates-life gloss-over).
    The Kree Empire provided the resources for the dyson sphere (why, I have no idea).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    The Kree Empire provided the resources for the dyson sphere (why, I have no idea).
    Proof of Tony's negotiating skills? :-)

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    Tony's probably had more success than Bruce but he's also had substantially more failure. Bruce has held his company with more of an iron fist, especially when he's had the top competitor in his universe (Lex) gunning for him. Also like others have pointed out, Tony's high end has a lot more to do with Marvel generally having better tech and access to better alien tech. Even scale wise I'd give it to Bruce. At max potential his company was essentially waging a secret war with a terrorist organization that no government or group of governments on Earth really could have hoped to match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancerman View Post
    At max potential his company was essentially waging a secret war with a terrorist organization that no government or group of governments on Earth really could have hoped to match.
    You mean the same thing Stark does before breakfast? For Batman, Ra's is high-end, for Stark, that sort of world class terrorist is his standard foe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelC View Post
    You mean the same thing Stark does before breakfast? For Batman, Ra's is high-end, for Stark, that sort of world class terrorist is his standard foe.
    Ra's isn't high end for Bruce; it's his standard foe. Same thing with Lex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelC View Post
    You mean the same thing Stark does before breakfast? For Batman, Ra's is high-end, for Stark, that sort of world class terrorist is his standard foe.
    Ra's is high end for typical Batman because on Earth Ra's is the best terrorist. High end for Batman is whoever the Justice League is taking on. Also none of this has a bearing on his business.

    When Wayne utilized his business he went to war and it was quite possibly the two most powerful entities in the world (nations included) going to war over the fate of the world. And it was all spawned over a personal disagreement between the two leaders. Again, scale.

    Ra's is typically high end for Batman, but Batman doesn't do his hero work the same way Stark does. Bruce typically only cares about Gotham, he hasn't orchestrated his enterprise to be an extension of his extracurricular activities (as Stark usually does), and the one time he did the scale was as big as possible for an Earthly threat in DC.

    As a businessman, Stark has proven to leave more vulnerabilities over his industries than Bruce. A lot of the advantages that are being granted to Stark have more to do with his universe having a higher tech range. Nothing to do with business. If you even out the limitations and look at it purely at the maximum scale allowed by the universe they are in, they are roughly equal. With the key exception being that Bruce almost never mismanages his affairs, his company is very rarely in danger, even when the next best is after him (and that next best is probably run by the smartest man on his planet) it's typically not of an issue.

    I think Tony's intellect as an inventor is more of a crutch for him, where Bruce gets by more on business savvy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime Harder View Post
    I don't know how Lexcorp is doing in Nu52, but after One Year Later, Wayne Enterprises had bought it and left Lex penniless on the street. If he had a secret army of Superman clones, he probably would have used them then.
    in 52, Lex did create an army of superman, brought them down at will and was eventually sent to jail
    though it should be noted that the effects lasted for only 6 months iirc

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    Batman's best stuff is probably from The Recent Batman Inc, what with wars being fought the world over, doomsday devices and undercover brainwashed children over what was essentially a bitter break up

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancerman View Post
    As a businessman, Stark has proven to leave more vulnerabilities over his industries than Bruce. A lot of the advantages that are being granted to Stark have more to do with his universe having a higher tech range. Nothing to do with business. If you even out the limitations and look at it purely at the maximum scale allowed by the universe they are in, they are roughly equal. With the key exception being that Bruce almost never mismanages his affairs, his company is very rarely in danger, even when the next best is after him (and that next best is probably run by the smartest man on his planet) it's typically not of an issue.

    I think Tony's intellect as an inventor is more of a crutch for him, where Bruce gets by more on business savvy.
    His universe has a higher tech range *because* of people like him. And as I said before, Bruce can wheel and deal all he likes but while he's playing patent troll and bribing politicians Tony's going to be opening up new markets.

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