Post Crisis Superman vs New 52 Superman

[Godzilla2099]

My apologies if this thread was done in the past but with DC making another mess of their universe and things are about to end for New 52, I wanted to see which one would win if they had to fight each other for survival

Right now I'm not sure. I feel Post Crisis is more durable and possibly faster. New 52 Superman moved War World easily, lifted the mass of the earth (6 sextillion tons) for 5 days, and speed blitzes often

[GreenLanternRanger]

My apologies if this thread was done in the past but with DC making another mess of their universe and things are about to end for New 52, I wanted to see which one would win if they had to fight each other for survival

Right now I'm not sure. I feel Post Crisis is more durable and possibly faster. New 52 Superman moved War World easily, lifted the mass of the earth (6 sextillion tons) for 5 days, and speed blitzes often

How are they making another mess? Rebirth looks like its tiding things up abit if anything.


Anywho as for the question, I think they would pretty much be on equal ground in a fight, so it would probably end in a draw.

[Anarchist]

For the strength and durability department, NuSupes has the advantage there.
So he wins.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

How are they making another mess? Rebirth looks like its tiding things up abit if anything.


Anywho as for the question, I think they would pretty much be on equal ground in a fight, so it would probably end in a draw.

It's ... Definitely not a good change.

[AlphaMale]

My apologies if this thread was done in the past but with DC making another mess of their universe and things are about to end for New 52, I wanted to see which one would win if they had to fight each other for survival

Right now I'm not sure. I feel Post Crisis is more durable and possibly faster. New 52 Superman moved War World easily, lifted the mass of the earth (6 sextillion tons) for 5 days, and speed blitzes often

I lean toward the guy who is close to light speed in reaction time, being post Crisis Superman. I don't think nu Supes has any reaction feats that would place him at significant portion of light.

[Primetime Harder]

I lean toward the guy who is close to light speed in reaction time, being post Crisis Superman. I don't think nu Supes has any reaction feats that would place him at significant portion of light.

I was going to ask if nuSupes had any nanosecond feats or similar, since post-Crisis Superman has scads of them. That'll definitely serve to negate the apparent strength/durability advantage here.

It's ... Definitely not a good change.

See, that's why I am currently staying the hell away from DC comics, until they get their s#!t together and start turning out high-quality story arcs again.

[Captain Morgan]

Nu Clark has a feat that put him up in that bracket for speed. It involves reading an entire medical library in minutes so he can perform surgery on Lois Lane. He's also got other stuff involving microseconds and semi keeping up with the Flash.

He's also go that thing where he flies from Pluto to Earth in what basically amounts for the time it takes the Red Hood to teleport between the two points. Most of that is travel speed, but I did always wonder how he was able to find the Hood on Earth so fast. Did the teleporter leave some sort of trail he could follow, or did he manage to use his super senses to locate the Hood and company by searching the planet? I guess for rumbles purposes it's best to assume the weakest interpretation, which is that the teleportation left a trail.

[The Drunkard Kid]

*insensible growling noises*

Sorry, that medical library feat just irks the bejesus out of me, since it involves Clark apparently taking the time to read every medical book ever written (even assuming obviously ridiculous levels of hyperbole, just reading every book in the memory that isn't an older edition or foreign language translation of another book, or some sort of outdated classic kept around as a status symbol, it would mean he still wasted tons of time reading about podiatry/dentistry/proctology/etc... before he proceeded to show that he had no idea about how to properly perform surgery by not cutting/stripping Lois of her clothing (thus leaving her severely exposed to infection), using his thumbnail instead of a sterilized surgical scalpel (again with the infection), and then cauterizing the wound as though spot-wielding Lois back together was a clean and effective alternative to stitching rather than a last ditch resort that would still be giving her massive burns (that are vulnerable to infection and necrosis).

Maybe he just saw Superman 2 and thought that he had Repair Great Wall of China Vision and wanted to see how that worked when it came to fixing human beings?

[Guy1]

*insensible growling noises*

Sorry, that medical library feat just irks the bejesus out of me, since it involves Clark apparently taking the time to read every medical book ever written (even assuming obviously ridiculous levels of hyperbole, just reading every book in the memory that isn't an older edition or foreign language translation of another book, or some sort of outdated classic kept around as a status symbol, it would mean he still wasted tons of time reading about podiatry/dentistry/proctology/etc... before he proceeded to show that he had no idea about how to properly perform surgery by not cutting/stripping Lois of her clothing (thus leaving her severely exposed to infection), using his thumbnail instead of a sterilized surgical scalpel (again with the infection), and then cauterizing the wound as though spot-wielding Lois back together was a clean and effective alternative to stitching rather than a last ditch resort that would still be giving her massive burns (that are vulnerable to infection and necrosis).

Maybe he just saw Superman 2 and thought that he had Repair Great Wall of China Vision and wanted to see how that worked when it came to fixing human beings?

Naaaah. More like he just Prometheus.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

Nu Clark has a feat that put him up in that bracket for speed. It involves reading an entire medical library in minutes so he can perform surgery on Lois Lane. He's also got other stuff involving microseconds and semi keeping up with the Flash.

He's also go that thing where he flies from Pluto to Earth in what basically amounts for the time it takes the Red Hood to teleport between the two points. Most of that is travel speed, but I did always wonder how he was able to find the Hood on Earth so fast. Did the teleporter leave some sort of trail he could follow, or did he manage to use his super senses to locate the Hood and company by searching the planet? I guess for rumbles purposes it's best to assume the weakest interpretation, which is that the teleportation left a trail.

Feats pretty.... Eh. Not to mention it's one feat in several years. Would need a fair few more.

[AlphaMale]

I was going to ask if nuSupes had any nanosecond feats or similar, since post-Crisis Superman has scads of them. That'll definitely serve to negate the apparent strength/durability advantage here.

Post Crisis Superman has three so called nano second reaction "feats": Action 642 where Clark was talking to Deadman between a nano second of time, courtesy of Hal Jordan's ring; Adventures 603, which is Clark looking for a place to stash a particularly explosive child, most of which was accomplished in a straight line, and a statement from JLA: Black Baptism, which really doesn't amount to much but a statement....none of which squares with post Crisis Clark's inability to enter the time stream.

But yeah, I see post Crisis Clark as superior to nu 52 Supes in terms of reaction speed. Post Crisis Clark is about as close as one can get to FTL reaction speed as one can get if we go by high feats (which we do).

Nu Clark, not so much. I seem to recall Clark having a singular millisecond reaction feat and then there is the feat of him reading through every medical text ever published.

Without leaving the hospital he was in.

Feats pretty.... Eh. Not to mention it's one feat in several years. Would need a fair few more.

The nu 52 stuff is a little weird. I just haven't found as many impressive feats for nu Clark as I have post Crisis version. I heard something to the effect that the new reboot is a deliberate return to post Crisis version or some such?

[Marvel-Studios Rep]

^That might be because the respect threads with him were are closed and cast into the void. I think Nu had at least 6 or 7 microsecond type feats in the time I was reading his comic. offhand I remember I think 2 or 3 from Superman Unchained.

[The Dog]

Maybe he just saw Superman 2 and thought that he had Repair Great Wall of China Vision and wanted to see how that worked when it came to fixing human beings?

"Superman 4: The Quest For Peace" was the one with Repair Great Wall of China Vision (AKA Rewind The Movie Vision). Superman 2 was the one with the throwable cellophane Superman "S" shield that provides a momentary minor inconvenience for enemies.

[Primetime Harder]

"Superman 4: The Quest For Peace"

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Shhh. We do not speak its name.

[Username taken]

Post Crisis Superman was hella fast but Nuperman is stronger.

I'm not sure about durability.

All in all, I favor Post Crisis Supes because he seems to be faster.