Gal Gadot is Wonder Woman in Justice League: Part 1

[RealWonderman]

Again, depending on how the story is told, if we have an entire race of people at Aquaman's wisdom strength level, and an entire race of people (presumably) close to Diana's wisdom and strength level, plus all of mankind at the time, it is possible circumstances could have led to a retreat by Darkseid...after he nearly annihilates them and sinks Atlantis.

[adrikito]

How interesting! 30.000 years ago..

[Dexter Plexter]

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[Titan Theo]

For Amazons to have successfully fought off Darkseid, even at that time, they should have been either:

technologically as advanced at least, or everyone is as superpowered as WW, or the Olympian Gods gave them the means to defeat Darkseid.

[BiteTheBullet]

For Amazons to have successfully fought off Darkseid, even at that time, they should have been either:

technologically as advanced at least, or everyone is as superpowered as WW, or the Olympian Gods gave them the means to defeat Darkseid.

This is why I don't like the concept of Diana being one of many. In other words, if we assume all amazons are super powered, and the only difference between Diana and the rest is that she is better skilled, then what made or makes her special is a moot point.

If everyone is super, then 'no one' is to paraphrase The Incredibles.

[Agent Z]

This is why I don't like the concept of Diana being one of many. In other words, if we assume all amazons are super powered, and the only difference between Diana and the rest is that she is better skilled, then what made or makes her special is a moot point.

If everyone is super, then 'no one' is to paraphrase The Incredibles.

By this logic, Superman isn't special either given he lives in a shared universe with other aliens and metahumans.

[BiteTheBullet]

By this logic, Superman isn't special either given he lives in a shared universe with other aliens and metahumans.

No, Superman is supposed to be the last person that survived Krypton. Obviously writers have shoe horned in others like Supergirl, but for all intents and purposes Superman should be the only one of his kind.

The fact that there is more aliens and metahumans in the universe doesn't mean Superman isn't special. The fact that he was supposed to be the last survivor of Krypton makes him special.

If Diana was in the same power class as the rest of the amazons, then where is the drama in the World ending events when you have thousands of Wonder Woman types that have powers on par with Superman?

[Agent Z]

No, Superman is supposed to be the last person that survived Krypton. Obviously writers have shoe horned in others like Supergirl, but for all intents and purposes Superman should be the only one of his kind.

The fact that there is more aliens and metahumans in the universe doesn't mean Superman isn't special. The fact that he was supposed to be the last survivor of Krypton makes him special.

If Diana was in the same power class as the rest of the amazons, then where is the drama in the World ending events when you have thousands of Wonder Woman types that have powers on par with Superman?

The comics have been depicting such threats for decades despite numerous super powered being on par with or even above Superman for decades.

Also, not every story has to be a world ending event. And as we've seen, having super powers alone doesn't make you indestructible.

[BiteTheBullet]

The comics have been depicting such threats for decades despite numerous super powered being on par with or even above Superman for decades.

Also, not every story has to be a world ending event. And as we've seen, having super powers alone doesn't make you indestructible.

The point was, if every amazon has powers equal to that of Diana, then what makes her special? Why do we want to read a comic about her when every amazon can do what she does? Again, if they are all super (with respect to amazons), then no one is!

[Agent Z]

The point was, if every amazon has powers equal to that of Diana, then what makes her special? Why do we want to read a comic about her when every amazon can do what she does? Again, if they are all super (with respect to amazons), then no one is!

Her personality? Her relationships with other people? The types of adventures she gets into? You're acting as if just because the Amazons have powers equal to her (and we don't even know if that's the case) they're alike in all ways. There are ways to give two people similar abilities and still get different stories out of them. People don't just read about superheroes because of the powers.

And as I said before, she becomes less special by virtue of being in a shared universe with other super powered beings.

I don't even get your logic anyway. So no one is super powered because all the Amazons have super powers? What did all of the baseline humans disappear?

[Agent Z]

The point was, if every amazon has powers equal to that of Diana, then what makes her special? Why do we want to read a comic about her when every amazon can do what she does? Again, if they are all super (with respect to amazons), then no one is!

Her personality? Her relationships with other people? The types of adventures she gets into? You're acting as if just because the Amazons have powers equal to her (and we don't even know if that's the case) they're alike in all ways. There are ways to give two people similar abilities and still get different stories out of them. People don't just read about superheroes because of the powers.

And as I said before, she becomes less special by virtue of being in a shared universe with other super powered beings.

I don't even get your logic anyway. So no one is super powered because all the Amazons have super powers? What did all of the baseline humans disappear?

[Darius]

The point was, if every amazon has powers equal to that of Diana, then what makes her special? Why do we want to read a comic about her when every amazon can do what she does? Again, if they are all super (with respect to amazons), then no one is!

The idea is that she is the best of the best. The original concept had all Amazons being in various stages of the training that empowered WW. She was the best of them, but each of them was also incredible and powerful on her own. She's meant to show the pinnacle of female achievement and the Amazons were all women who shared her training. The whole point was to illustrate that "any woman could be a wonder woman".

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The point was, if every amazon has powers equal to that of Diana, then what makes her special? Why do we want to read a comic about her when every amazon can do what she does? Again, if they are all super (with respect to amazons), then no one is!

I want to read about her because she's the only Amazon who actually wanted to leave Paradise Island and venture into the unknown.
I'm sure any Amazon would have taken Steve back to Man's World out of duty to their queen. But, Diana is the only Amazon that Paradise wasn't enough for. She's the only one who didn't want to spend her immortal life there.

That's what makes her unique of all the wonder women of Amazonia.

[Titan Theo]

Actually, I like the idea that all amazons are as powerful as WW, but the fact that WW was the only child in PI and pretty much was the favorite of everyone there, she trained with everyone, making her no. 2 on every Amazonian skill, which makes her no. 1 that regard, and being nol. 2 is NOT so bad amongst thousands of amazons..lol. Also, what will or could make her different as as follows:

...Her special weapons accorded to her by the Olympians..
...Being a demi-goddess, she can leave PI without losing her immortality
...As far as her fighting skills (weapons or no weapons) and other skills shared by all amazons, she is no. # 2, which really makes her no. 1 as she most rounded of all of them, and as I've said being no. 2, is not as bad amongst an island of women wherein the average fighter is already above human standards even if you were the last place

[Lex Luthor]

the idea that they are all the same strength level is great because ive always wish they found a way to show diana's strength in a way that didnt diminish the other amazons and it just makes her mythos makes more sense in a lot of ways but i hope she grew up with other girls her age on themyscira as well. also it helps us understand what diana stands for more if she stands out because of her mission(which is to fight for humanity) and not just something she had to do or a by product of her not wanting to live there anymore.