Do you like that Magneto is no longer the father of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver?

[milton75]

Everything about Marvel's petty attitude to situations like this annoys me.

[Carabas]

Avengers Disassembled was come up with to realign the Avengers titles.

Avengers title. It was just the one book back then, and it was usually not a very popular one.

[Zero Hunter]

I believe Brevoort once said on his Tumblr that that's one of the reasons he supported the retcon. He doesn't like the idea of characters being tied to a particular point in time if they don't have to be, and once Magneto was retconned into being a Holocaust survivor, this created the problem of how to explain the twins still being young.

Ironically part of the reason for retconning them into being Magneto's children is that the Whizzer/Miss America retcon fixed them as having been born in the 1940s. And then Claremont changed Magneto's backstory so they had to have been born in the '40s again. Retcons are weird.

Tom Brevoort supports anything Joe Q and the other suits tell him too. The man has been Marvels go to "yes-man" for the last decade and half. If he is saying something in an interview you can bet it is coming straight off the script he was given by his superiors. The man has not had an original thought in years.

[Carabas]

Tom Brevoort supports anything Joe Q and the other suits tell him too. The man has been Marvels go to "yes-man" for the last decade and half. If he is saying something in an interview you can bet it is coming straight off the script he was given by his superiors. The man has not had an original thought in years.

You know what they call an employee who refuses to do what his boss tells him to and talks trash about the company in interviews? Fired. And very justifiedly so.

[Zero Hunter]

You know what they call an employee who refuses to do what his boss tells him to and talks trash about the company in interviews? Fired. And very justifiedly so.

True, but don't hold up someone like Brevoort as an example when we all know he is just spouting the company line.

[gurkle]

Brevoort will never (or almost never) talk about the stories he didn't like, the writers who didn't do good work, etc. That's just normal. That doesn't mean he's lying when he talks about what he does like. He's usually pretty candid in interviews, unlike Axel Alonso and some others, but no, he's not going to tell us if he thought something was a terrible idea that is ruining the comics.

[Ken Ashcroft]

Pietro and Wanda are still brother and sister aren't they? That hasn't been retconned yet?

[Carabas]

True, but don't hold up someone like Brevoort as an example when we all know he is just spouting the company line.

He's no different from any Marvel editor ever in that. Seems unfair to single him out. Hell, still Stan Lee lives and breaths the company line. It's what Marvel is built on.

[Michael Watkins]

Magneto being the twins father also necessitates the twins being de-aged. Magnus is a young adult when he was a prisoner in Auschwitz and became a Sonderkommando. After the war, he marries Magda and they have a child together name Anya. When Anya dies and Magneto frightens Magda with the display of his powers, she is pregnant with the twins. He never knew that she sought shelter at the HE's fortress on Mount Wundagore. With them being born shortly after the war and before Magneto goes to Israel, this would mean that the twins would be much much older. So the retcon would have to include a period of time when the twins would have been put in some kind of suspended animation to accommodate Marvel's sliding timeline.

They were in suspended animation; back when the Whizzer was their dad. High Evolutionary did the same thing to Jessica Drew.

[jmc247]

Pietro and Wanda are still brother and sister aren't they? That hasn't been retconned yet?

Not yet, but their relationship has been been damaged a bit catastrophically of late, and they have a new story baking in the oven about Wanda's newly uncovered mom in the Scarlet Witch series which might decide to split the twins if the MCU and Marvel have come up with an understanding about which characters they use in the movies.

And, no I don't think movie and comic characters back stories have to completely match as some do.

[Sutekh]

It's weird and hypocritical, IMO, that Wanda and Pietro's ties to Magneto are being held up as tying them to a particular point in time, when so many other characters, including Xavier and Cain Marko, Tony Stark, Reed Richards and Ben Grimm, Nick Fury, Black Widow, etc. are tied to WW2 or the Korean War, and that's generally considered okay to just politely ignore, rather than retconning their comic book backstories (obviously, in movies, they've all been pushed forward!).

[Iron Maiden]

With Magneto, you can't do anything to change the part of his origin that clearly places him in Auschwitz. Nick Fury had the Infinity serum. Black Widow, like the Winter Soldier was a sleeper agent. Tony Stark origin was rolled forward in the movies. These days the US has been involved in so many wars, take your pick with which one to link him to. With Ben and Reed Richards, it's simply never brought up and wasn't a big part of who they are as it is with Magneto. If you retconned Magneto's origin so that he wasn't at Auschwitz, then you'd really get fans howling.

[Iron Maiden]

True, but don't hold up someone like Brevoort as an example when we all know he is just spouting the company line.

Have you ever met him? Because I have. I've attended a couple of panels when I went to cons where he was one of the speakers. He's more than just a yes man. All of Marvel's top writers have pointed to Tom B. as the guy that gives them good editorial direction. Hey, if Mark Waid likes him he must be doing something right.

[Witchfan]

Pietro and Wanda are still brother and sister aren't they? That hasn't been retconned yet?

Wanda and Pietro were raised together. If they are not biologically related, then they are still brother and sister by adoption.

[Michael Watkins]

With Magneto, you can't do anything to change the part of his origin that clearly places him in Auschwitz. Nick Fury had the Infinity serum. Black Widow, like the Winter Soldier was a sleeper agent. Tony Stark origin was rolled forward in the movies. These days the US has been involved in so many wars, take your pick with which one to link him to. With Ben and Reed Richards, it's simply never brought up and wasn't a big part of who they are as it is with Magneto. If you retconned Magneto's origin so that he wasn't at Auschwitz, then you'd really get fans howling.

Good thing it isn't necessary because of Mutant Alpha.