X-Men Are Not Alone: tributes, plagiarisms, coincidences...

[Carabas]

This is a plagiarism (maybe involuntary...but I doubt it):

TNM Special Edition



TNM #100



Actually, it is more likely the kind of unintentionally plagiarisms which I'm talking about.

No. Nononono.

This is intentional plagiarism, just not of TMNT.

http://blog.adlo.es/2006/08/swipe_of..._1sept1997_ro/



Your example in the post before that one is probably just a very generic pose than any kind of swipe.

[Ricochet Rita]

W.O.W. Why, thanks, Carabas (BTW, I love your nickname, meeeow!). This is why I opened this thread!

So Liefeld clearly swiped 'Ronin' (I knew I should have read it someday ;P ). Honestly, it confused me a bit that Rob was able to lightly modify Adams' panel: I didn't think he was skilled enough. And he wasn't: he was tracing Miller's panel.

Now I think that it was Adams who inadvertently plagiarized Miller (TNM Special Edition was subsequent). OK, that may be a generic pose, but the resemblance is excessive --not identical, though. Ergo: Adams (very fond of manga style) reads 'Ronin', he likes it a lot, its art fix in his memory, and later he more or less recreates it without realizing. It's very usual.

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Title: The Uncanny X-Men #168
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Cover date: 1983
Artist: Paul Smith

Title: Thunderbolts #8
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Cover date: 1997
Artist: Mark Bagley
http://www.aminoapps.com/page/comics...ts-mark-bagley

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NOW IT'S MY TURN by John Byrne and Terry Austin http://www.comicsreporter.com/index...._terry_austin/

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L: Uncanny X-Men #173 (September 1983), art by Paul Smith http://www.comicsreporter.com/index....ay_paul_smith/

M: X-Men Classic #77 (November 1992), art by Adam Hughes

R: Rogue #9 (May 2005), art by Scott Eaton and Dan Hillsman

[Ricochet Rita]

Thank you very much for all these images, 616! I specially like the first post, because it's more interesting when the tribute comes from another title (the farther, the better).

Speaking of Austin, he's the King of Easter Eggs together with Art Adams: both of them love to put a thousand hidden winks in their pictures. Keeping within comics alone, and not other media, TNM Special Edition #1 shows Popeye and Brutus as asgardian characters (Olive Oyl appears some pages after this).



Longshot former miniseries is literally invaded by easter eggs. Just in this panel from #2 we can recognize a handful of 'people', including an odd giant Hawkeye, Gumby and...is it the very same Jim Shooter behind Hitch the director? Also, probably a few portraits of Adams' mates. But what I really like is that four eyes Taarna from 'Heavy Metal - The Movie', who was based on Moebius' 'Arzach'.





I don't know to what extent it was Nocenti's idea, though, since I guess she told Adams to include in this mass leisure criticize issue as much junk references as he could thought about.

[Ricochet Rita]

Dazzler in Marvel Graphic Novel v1 #12 (1984), by Jim Shooter and Frank Springer:



Namorita in Marvel Comics Presents v1 #12 (1989), by Scott Lobdell and...FRANK SPRINGER!:



Just in case someone may doubt if artists do copy themselves .

Nice backsides, BTW.

(PS: Now maybe Carabas tell us that both pics are a plagiarism from another artist --everything is possible)

[Carabas]

(PS: Now maybe Carabas tell us that both pics are a plagiarism from another artist --everything is possible)

I don't think imitating your own work is plagiarism at all. Plagiarism is taking somebody elses art or idea and passing it off as your own. You simply can't plagiarise yourself.

[Ricochet Rita]

I don't think imitating your own work is plagiarism at all. Plagiarism is taking somebody elses art or idea and passing it off as your own. You simply can't plagiarise yourself.

I didn't say 'plagiarism':

Just in case someone may doubt if artists do copy themselves .

Anyway, it wasn't a reproval. All along this thread I've been insisting on copying as a natural, logical, accepted and many times subconscious practice. It all depends on the case, of course --but I think copying your own creations might be an accusation of laziness, at the most.

[Carabas]

I didn't say 'plagiarism'...

Okay, my bad.

[Tazirai]

Great homages in here.

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Title: The Amazing Spider-Man #2 (interior page)
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Cover date: 1963
Artist: Steve Ditko

Title: The New Mutants #86
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Cover date: 1990
Artist: Rob Liefeld
http://www.comicsreporter.com/index....y_rob_liefeld/

[Ricochet Rita]

Thanks for the post, 616. At least, Liefeld left here proof of this was a tribute, it's OK.

I encourage you to visit this funny web ^ ^ : http://art-swipes.tumblr.com/

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Thank you for the link Ricochet Rita

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The Ronin series by Frank Miller was to me AWESOME!