Worst Characterization of Spider-Man

[Kevinroc]

it's just something they're interested in. do we really need an explanation as to why someone loves to cook as a hobby or if someone loves to draw. we know they're into it. it doesn't have to be tied into a larger narrative. just make anything organic. the audiance isn't stupid to figure them out .

The bad guy used Peter's camera to find out who he is. They made the camera important. And didn't explain why.

not really. the team had a vision but was interrupted by the studio .

At the end of the day, those were still bad movies that underperformed and Sony ran off to Marvel to save their floundering Spider-Man film franchise.

not really. it mostly focused on peter's life, uncle ben and aunt may, his friends, and his love gwen .

Don't forget Peter's parents. Peter sure never made you forget them.

not really

Richard Parker was more important than Aunt May. They didn't understand Spider-Man.

not really. Gwen actually loved peter and in the films she loved spiderman . also Mj can still bring an importance to peter whether or not she is with gwen or not like getting to know him and relate to him even learning some stuff on gwen and seeing how he's going through. she is also the person who is suppose to be the symbol of just peter moving on from gwen from the other person that he loves the most .

Gwen freakin' hated Spider-Man. That was the whole point. It was an inversion of the Superman/Clark Kent/Lois Lane triangle. Lois loved Superman and was indifferent to Clark. Gwen loved Peter and hated Spider-Man. Even Ultimate had that (why do you think Ultimate Gwen pulled a gun on Peter when she found out he was Spider-Man?)

They dropped that whole dynamic in the movies and instead poorly foreshadowed Gwen's own death.

As far as MJ, they basically acted like terrible fanfic writers. They erased her. They called her a slut. This is the attitude I expect from shippers on a message board. Not people making $100 million+ movies.

Flash was actually here meeting with peter and gwen and going to college. Ratha is dead and i suppose they were suppose to do something with the Killer .

Flash was written out in ASM 2 after a tiny cameo. Ratha was a deleted scene (how many times do I have to tell you that deleted scenes don't count?). Ben's killer was completely dropped.

[marvelguy25]

The bad guy used Peter's camera to find out who he is. They made the camera important. And didn't explain why.

the camera was just a slip up. it doesn't justify his entire hobby.

At the end of the day, those were still bad movies that underperformed and Sony ran off to Marvel to save their floundering Spider-Man film franchise.

not really. they were really great films that were underperformed at the box office because the first one was hounded by bloodthirsty fanboys pre release . the second one with the over marketing.

Don't forget Peter's parents. Peter sure never made you forget them.

he mostly focuses on other people besides them like aunt May , Gwen, Harry , Connors, George , uncle Ben .

Richard Parker was more important than Aunt May. They didn't understand Spider-Man.

no, Aunt May was pretty important as well as ben, harry, connors gwen, and george .

Gwen freakin' hated Spider-Man. That was the whole point. It was an inversion of the Superman/Clark Kent/Lois Lane triangle. Lois loved Superman and was indifferent to Clark. Gwen loved Peter and hated Spider-Man. Even Ultimate had that (why do you think Ultimate Gwen pulled a gun on Peter when she found out he was Spider-Man?)

no, they just added the whole lesson to peter to showcase his flaws as a character being attached to Gwen like the guy always does with his women . it was a new way to tell the story of the character exploring his flaws making the chemistry between them impactful .

They dropped that whole dynamic in the movies and instead poorly foreshadowed Gwen's own death.

As far as MJ, they basically acted like terrible fanfic writers. They erased her. They called her a slut. This is the attitude I expect from shippers on a message board. Not people making $100 million+ movies.

they just joked about her being a slut. if they think that then why did feel to include her into this series?

Flash was written out in ASM 2 after a tiny cameo. Ratha was a deleted scene (how many times do I have to tell you that deleted scenes don't count?). Ben's killer was completely dropped.

they kinda do when they killed him of and was never mentioned again in the sequel and with flash it was a development showing the guy paling around with gwen and peter . Ben's killer wasn't dropped until he was never used in the second film but i feel as though they were gonna use him for something else .

[marvelguy25]

If you're going to argue against a claim that a movie did a thing that ended up being completely pointless, responding by saying "So?" doesn't really change anything. It just says you want to ignore the problems that other people may have with it.

But the camera is indicative of larger issues that those movies had. Which is that they had a superficial understanding of Spider-Man.

no, it's just you wanting to nitpick the film even thinking it's for that reason. the guy has a wall of photography even mentioned that he took pictures for the clubs . the camera thing was just a slip up .

[Kevinroc]

the camera was just a slip up. it doesn't justify his entire hobby.

A big part of the movie revolves around Peter's camera. That he's into "because."

Sloppy story telling.

not really. they were really great films that were underperformed at the box office because the first one was hounded by bloodthirsty fanboys pre release . the second one with the over marketing.

I get that you liked them, but you don't have to respond to everyone who says how much they hated those films.

he mostly focuses on other people besides them like aunt May , Gwen, Harry , Connors, George , uncle Ben.

no, Aunt May was pretty important as well as ben, harry, connors gwen, and george .

You basically said the same thing, claiming that Peter wasn't obsessed with Richard Parker. Or that Aunt May was anywhere near as important as Richard in the narrative. (She wasn't.)

Harry appeared out of nowhere in ASM 2 after being completely unmentioned in ASM 1. Sloppy introduction.

Nobody wanted the origin again. And Peter sure seemed to forget how important Uncle Ben was in ASM 2, didn't he? He just kept talking about Richard Parker. Saying Richard should have been at his graduation when May mentions Ben.

That is so missing the point of Spider-Man, and such a betrayal of what Spider-Man is about. It's insulting. It reduces the role of foster parents. It's a fetishization of blood relatives. And it was replaced by a go nowhere plot that wasn't the least bit interesting.

no, they just added the whole lesson to peter to showcase his flaws as a character being attached to Gwen like the guy always does with his women . it was a new way to tell the story of the character exploring his flaws making the chemistry between them impactful .

Peter stalked Gwen. Stalking is love?

they just joked about her being a slut. if they think that then why did feel to include her into this series?

I didn't see her in those movies. Did you? Even the scenes they filmed with Woodley didn't make the DVD release.

A series of Spider-Man films that puts more emphasis on Richard Parker than characters like Jonah and MJ? These films had terrible priorities.

they kinda do when they killed him of and was never mentioned again in the sequel and with flash it was a development showing the guy paling around with gwen and peter . Ben's killer wasn't dropped until he was never used in the second film but i feel as though they were gonna use him for something else .

Flash disappeared from the narrative. That was sloppy. Flash's development from bully to friend was one of the few decent things in ASM 1 and actually felt like Spider-Man. And then they dropped him.

Ben's killer was regulated to a non-canon tie-in game. He got dropped. They botched it.

no, it's just you wanting to nitpick the film even thinking it's for that reason. the guy has a wall of photography even mentioned that he took pictures for the clubs . the camera thing was just a slip up .

These movies had a lot of "slip-ups."

(Hey, remember when Harry had a gun to a guy's head and then had the guy inoculate him in the arm that he was holding the gun?)

[marvelguy25]

A big part of the movie revolves around Peter's camera. That he's into "because."

Sloppy story telling.

not really. it's just a hobby. do we really need a hobby like cooking, drawing, and phototagraphy to be explored in every detail they say. we know they are into it.

I get that you liked them, but you don't have to respond to everyone who says how much they hated those films.

unless they say crazy things like you just did.

You basically said the same thing, claiming that Peter wasn't obsessed with Richard Parker. Or that Aunt May was anywhere near as important as Richard in the narrative. (She wasn't.)

because it's mostly true .

Harry appeared out of nowhere in ASM 2 after being completely unmentioned in ASM 1. Sloppy introduction.

not really.

Nobody wanted the origin again. And Peter sure seemed to forget how important Uncle Ben was in ASM 2, didn't he? He just kept talking about Richard Parker. Saying Richard should have been at his graduation when May mentions Ben.

they just wanted to explore the origin demonstrating peter's flaws and journey as a character. Peter never mention Richard a couple of times .

That is so missing the point of Spider-Man, and such a betrayal of what Spider-Man is about. It's insulting. It reduces the role of foster parents. It's a fetishization of blood relatives. And it was replaced by a go nowhere plot that wasn't the least bit interesting.

not really . they focused on may, ben , gwen, harry, and connors. you are just exaggerating too much on them .

Peter stalked Gwen. Stalking is love?

he was just watching over her a bit just to make sure she's safe . it what any hero would do. it's something peter would do . the guy is a bit overprotective, paranoid, and love struck .

I didn't see her in those movies. Did you? Even the scenes they filmed with Woodley didn't make the DVD release.

they filmed her for a few scenes for a short time and possibly thought of replacing her after all the harsh backlash she had before the release ,

A series of Spider-Man films that puts more emphasis on Richard Parker than characters like Jonah and MJ? These films had terrible priorities.

not really. they just wanted to tell their own story and were afraid of using another actor as JJJ.

Flash disappeared from the narrative. That was sloppy. Flash's development from bully to friend was one of the few decent things in ASM 1 and actually felt like Spider-Man. And then they dropped him.

not really. they just showcased him being friends showing him having the time of his life in college and possibly went to the military .

Ben's killer was regulated to a non-canon tie-in game. He got dropped. They botched it.

not really .

These movies had a lot of "slip-ups."

(Hey, remember when Harry had a gun to a guy's head and then had the guy inoculate him in the arm that he was holding the gun?)

he was mostly careful .

[Kevinroc]

not really. it's just a hobby. do we really need a hobby like cooking, drawing, and phototagraphy to be explored in every detail they say. we know they are into it.

So it's just a macguffin? Got it.

unless they say crazy things like you just did.

What did I say that was "crazy"?

because it's mostly true .

No, it's not true at all. The biggest thing Aunt May does in these movies is tell Peter about Richard. Aunt May was pointless in these movies. Even the few minutes of Marissa Tomei in Civil War made a bigger impact than two movies with Sally Field.

not really.

"Not really" is not a valid response.

they just wanted to explore the origin demonstrating peter's flaws and journey as a character. Peter never mention Richard a couple of times .

Peter mentions Richard constantly throughout these movies. Saying "there are times Peter doesn't mention him" doesn't magically erase all the Richard Parker-ness in the narrative.

not really . they focused on may, ben , gwen, harry, and connors. you are just exaggerating too much on them .

After redoing the origin (thanks for that, movie), the Uncle Ben plot was mostly dropped. Until it went unmentioned at all in the sequel. It's almost like the film was saying "one day, Spider-Man will make sure this guy faces justice. JK."

May wanted eggs. Or to tell Peter about Richard.

The Harry and Connors plots (which were similar) were pretty bad. Connors entire family was erased. Harry's plot was just a mess (why was Harry dying so fast? Norman lived a long time with that Hollywood disease?)

he was just watching over her a bit just to make sure she's safe . it what any hero would do. it's something peter would do . the guy is a bit overprotective, paranoid, and love struck .

Stalking is love. Got it.

they filmed her for a few scenes for a short time and possibly thought of replacing her after all the harsh backlash she had before the release ,

MJ was erased. Gross fanboys gonna be gross fanboys and major Spider-Man characters can safely be ignored. Got it.

not really. they just wanted to tell their own story and were afraid of using another actor as JJJ.

Major Spider-Man characters can safely be ignored. Got it.

not really. they just showcased him being friends showing him having the time of his life in college and possibly went to the military .

Flash disappeared. Major Spider-Man characters can safely be ignored. Got it.

not really .

Just saying "not really" is not valid in a discussion.

he was mostly careful .

He let the guy he was holding a gun to inject him in said arm holding the gun. That's not "mostly careful."

[marvelguy25]

So it's just a macguffin? Got it.

not really. when writing a story you just have to make it realistic. you just don't have to explain every little thing to make sure the audiance gets it. it's just another case of show don't tell .

What did I say that was "crazy"?

like you went overboard tryng to say that peter's hobby or people's hobbies in general should be explained.

No, it's not true at all. The biggest thing Aunt May does in these movies is tell Peter about Richard. Aunt May was pointless in these movies. Even the few minutes of Marissa Tomei in Civil War made a bigger impact than two movies with Sally Field.

Sally Field was portrayed as a realistic everyday mother who has to take care of her son , husband, and this house. she had been struggling with grief trying to take care of peter even giving him some helpful advice .

"Not really" is not a valid response.

it is a quick one .

Peter mentions Richard constantly throughout these movies. Saying "there are times Peter doesn't mention him" doesn't magically erase all the Richard Parker-ness in the narrative.

not really. he doesn't mention him like he's important but mostly focuses on his loved ones like may, ben , connors, gwen, george , and harry .

After redoing the origin (thanks for that, movie), the Uncle Ben plot was mostly dropped. Until it went unmentioned at all in the sequel. It's almost like the film was saying "one day, Spider-Man will make sure this guy faces justice. JK."

not really. peter stopped looking for his uncle's killer because he needed to be more focused into being a hero . he will look for the killer someday .

May wanted eggs. Or to tell Peter about Richard.

not really. Aunt May was wanted to take care of her son. the two had some hard times at home like peter coming home with bruises trying to hide them from Aunt May. but they are trying to recover like taking care of the house and checking on her health. she also give him helpful advice to get him back on his

The Harry and Connors plots (which were similar) were pretty bad. Connors entire family was erased. Harry's plot was just a mess (why was Harry dying so fast? Norman lived a long time with that Hollywood disease?)

not really. Connors said goodbye to his son and abandoned his family lving the rest of his life in the sewers . Norman is a very tough guy. harry however is weak. he couldn't handle the disease like his father did.

Stalking is love. Got it.

no it's not -_-



[quote ] MJ was erased. Gross fanboys gonna be gross fanboys and major Spider-Man characters can safely be ignored. Got it.[/quote]

no, not really.-_- it's like you're trying to dodge my statements.

Major Spider-Man characters can safely be ignored. Got it.

no, not really -_- .

Flash disappeared. Major Spider-Man characters can safely be ignored. Got it.

no, not really -_- .

Just saying "not really" is not valid in a discussion.

not really. it's just a way to keep things short to you .

He let the guy he was holding a gun to inject him in said arm holding the gun. That's not "mostly careful."

he was trying to be .

[Kevinroc]

not really. when writing a story you just have to make it realistic. you just don't have to explain every little thing to make sure the audiance gets it. it's just another case of show don't tell .

That's not what "show, don't tell" means. They told us Peter was supposed to be smart. Instead, Gwen has to do all the superscience stuff in these movies and Peter watches youtube videos on batteries.

like you went overboard tryng to say that peter's hobby or people's hobbies in general should be explained.

I don't need a monologue on why Peter is into photography. But a line or something would have been nice. Because they used Peter's camera to reveal his ID to the Lizard.

Sally Field was portrayed as a realistic everyday mother who has to take care of her son , husband, and this house. she had been struggling with grief trying to take care of peter even giving him some helpful advice .

Are you sure you're not mixing her up with Rosemary Harris' Aunt May? Because it sounds like you are.

it is a quick one .

It says nothing. "Not really" is not a valid counterpoint in a discussion. If you have nothing to say, you don't have to respond.

not really. he doesn't mention him like he's important but mostly focuses on his loved ones like may, ben , connors, gwen, george , and harry .

That's a straight up lie. Peter begs, BEGS, Aunt May to tell him about Richard. You're downplaying how much emphasis those films put on Richard to make it sound like he was just some tiny little subplot that wasn't that good, when in actuality the Richard Parker story took up a lot of screen time in two films that could have been better spent on actual important Spider-Man stories like Jonah and MJ and anything that wasn't Richard Parker.

Either quit lying about Richard, or I will stop responding to your lies.

not really. peter stopped looking for his uncle's killer because he needed to be more focused into being a hero . he will look for the killer someday .

It was completely dropped. They screwed up. You can admit it.

not really. Aunt May was wanted to take care of her son. the two had some hard times at home like peter coming home with bruises trying to hide them from Aunt May. but they are trying to recover like taking care of the house and checking on her health. she also give him helpful advice to get him back on his

You're confusing Sally Field's Aunt May with Rosemary Harris' again.

not really. Connors said goodbye to his son and abandoned his family lving the rest of his life in the sewers . Norman is a very tough guy. harry however is weak. he couldn't handle the disease like his father did.

Connors' family was only in deleted scenes. They are not a part of the movie proper. How many times do I have to tell you that deleted scenes aren't canon?

Harry found out he had the same disease that killed his rather old father, and he flipped out and acted like he was going to die in a manner of weeks. With no explanation at all. That's not an example of quality writing.

no it's not -_-

Let me quote you again.

"he was just watching over her a bit just to make sure she's safe . it what any hero would do. it's something peter would do . the guy is a bit overprotective, paranoid, and love struck ."

That sure sounds like "stalking is love."

no, not really.-_- it's like you're trying to dodge my statements.

Did they or did they not include the MJ scenes with Woodley on the blu-ray or DVD?

no, not really -_- .

That's what these movies did. Jonah was an off-screen cameo. Nobody else from the Bugle was even mentioned. Flash disappeared. MJ was erased from the film.

But oh boy, Richard Parker and Peter's obsession with him needed more screen time.

not really. it's just a way to keep things short to you .

If you really have no real responses to me, I'd say we're done here. Go back to enjoying the movies all you want, but I have explained why I don't like them.

he was trying to be .

The guy injected him in the gun arm. Either "careful" means something or it doesn't. You can laugh about how bad that was. It's okay.

[DCordo74]

Stalking is love. Got it.

I'm sorry this is so long, I just needed to vent. And why not on a message board?

I know right? When we first see him, he takes a picture of her...without her permission from afar. Which we are supposed to think is cute. It's not, do not take a picture of a woman without her permission. It's gross. We go to his room and see that the picture he took of the debate team is his screensaver...zoomed onto Gwen. So adorable how he obsesses over her. Then his uncle Ben (who he forgets about almost instantly for Gwen's father and his biological father-who I don't care about AT ALL.) is like "hardy har har, he has you on his computer"...and SHE GIGGLES LIKE IT WAS TOTES ADORBS! She's all "aw shucks petey-pie! Aren't you such a conventionally attractive white male, therefore it's ok for you to do this." And after she finds out about that, SHE AGREES TO GO ON A DATE WITH THIS CREEP. So, Peter (like the brilliant guy he is) tells her his most intimate secret the second time he ever spoke to her. Because she's just so gosh darn pretty. Then they spend the rest of the movie enamored with one another. She has her "LOOK I'M SO MUCH BETTER THAN RAIMI MJ CAUSE I HELP AND KNOW THINGS ABOUT THAT THING THAT THE LIZARD WAS USING. I MADE THE ANTI-DOTE. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MACHINE THINGY, CAUSE I AM AN INTERN, AND THEREFORE I KNOW." So Denis Leary dies, and Gwen is sad, understandably. I mean he was the best part of these awkward not spider-man movies. And the boy whom she loves-cause plot-abandons her at her father's funeral. What a nice guy, Gwen. As MJ would say, wow, you sure know how to pick 'em. He leaves Gwen alone to mourn the death of her father...without so much as a note or explanation. Nice, our hero ladies and gentlemen. And this whole mess is framed as a "poor petey, he not gonna get the girl, maybe?" moment. And a brief time skip later he says the douchest thing possible to her. A girl who just LOST HER FATHER and was abandoned by her boyfriend to mourn his death. This a-hole responds to "Don't make promises you can't keep" with "but those are the best kind." And she smiles all giddy like!!! And people ate this romance up like it was revolutionary or something. I sat there dumbfounded at the fan response. This kind of malarkey is why Twilight is a five billion dollar franchise, and fifty shades of grey made that author hundreds of millions of dollars. Great stuff screen writers. Congrats!

It only gets worse in the second movie. Peter endangers a dozen of people or so, so he can make a couple of quips, cause the FANS DEMANDED IT. And he and Gwen are all happy fun times. Aaaaaand Gwen doesn't seem to be all that broken up over her dead dad? Maybe it's because the plot doesn't demand that anymore. Also who cares about her feelings?? She's just the second lead. And then Leary shows up, twice in ghost form to Peter, not his daughter, but to his daughter's boo. And that gives Peter a mighty frighten. So Peter breaks up with her, and some of the dumbest dialogue is stuttered out of Emma's mouth. "I break up with you Peter. I break up with you." Dumb. But before that she says a classic MJ line "I love that you're Spider-man, But I love Peter Parker more."
(Oh wait that's not classic MJ, that's classic Gwen. My bad. I need to stop with all those facts and canon. This is Webb fan-fiction land where Gwen is basically diet coke MJ with SCIENCE, but terrible. Why did they even bother with MJ, they already forced her essence into Gwen? I don't blame them, because 616 Gwen is and always will be terrible.)

So I assumed-naturally- that Mr. Parker cares about her dead dad more than she does. That's certainly what the director and screen writers think. She seems totally unaffected and more hurt over Peter not wanting to stay steady. After this conversation ghost daddy Stacy is dropped. Because plot. But I must say, at the beginning of the movie Peter creepily sees daddy Stacy everywhere, despite the fact that I-as an audience member-never wanted to watch Denis Leary c***block Peter Parker. Ever in my life. She breaks up with him. Hooray? Peter reacts like any sane man would do by stalking her. Why not? He's the one that instigated the break up. Of course he would stalk her. Oh excuse me, """protect""" her. I forgot that this terrible love story is supposed to be a twilight-fied version of MJ and Peter's romance right?

She figures it out, because she """senses""" him, cause again...plot. She confronts him after some absolutely horrible dialogue, about her nose and laugh, and his eyes? And who cares? It's so obvious that this was improvised. It's so bad. Why? Did? They? Let? Them? Do? That? She thinks Peter's stalking of her is endearing. Because of course she does. Then they continue on this annoying. "I hate you." "I love you." "No. I hate you." "No. I love you." shtick.

Whatever she wants to go to Oxford, because she's just so diddly darn sciency and smart gosh gee whiz. So golly gosh darn smart that she's smarter than PETER BENJAMIN PARKER in his own damn movie. Yay! Feminism? She gets the spot at Oxford over an eleven year old child prodigy, cause why not? She's a mary-sue. So she has to LEAVE RIGHT NOW. AT THIS VERY MOMENT. Who cares about her family, she's got to go. Peter needs melodrama. And that's all she's here for is to be a prop for Peter. Kind of like the actual Gwen. Whatever he uses the bridge Gwen died on (FORTY YEARS AGO) to say "I LOVE YOU!" in webbing. Way to keep a secret. This Peter should just take off his mask so that email Jameson can yell at him. Peter apparently does know where Gwen is at at all times. I would not be surprised if he has a locator app on her phone. It's all lovey-dovey in the sunset...even though it was day time when he scooped her up in public.

Fast forward he thwips her to a cop car because he's smart enough to realize that she can't take on a man who disintegrate his WHOLE body (like a God) and is made up entirely of electricity. Fast forward again she hits this God like being with a cop car. Because feminism. Peter tries to get her to leave (because nothing is Peter's fault in these dumb movies). She yells at him and has mj-ism number 21935930 "this is my life Peter. Nobody tells me what to do!" Which would be great, in an entirely different context, with narrative build up of people not letting her make decisions. Even though, no one tells her she can't except that time Peter tried to protect her. So whatever girl. Bye. She dies, because of course she does. Why have Gwen Stacy in a movie, if you're not gonna kill her? That's literally the only thing of significance she ever did. He's all sad. Abandons all hope and quits being Spider-man. Even though he didn't, wouldn't, and shouldn't. He doesn't have MJ to comfort him and give him hope for the future. So his Aunt tells him to box his feelings away and hide them in the back of the closet. Wow. Thanks Aunt May. He watches Gwen's stupid unnatural speech and puts on the Spider-man costume to save a dumb kid from his dumb mom and the dumb Rhino. The End. Dumb movie is dumb.

(Also why was everyone always behind a police barricade?? Run you dumb morons! There are super villains fighting a superhero. Go. Then at Time Square, those people ran up the flight to nowhere. Just so the effects team could show off that one effect they thought was cool with Peter's web shooters. I hate these movies.)

[Noronha]

OMD an still going

[JediMindTrick]

Everything post OMD. Many of these stories are well told but they aren't Peter Parker. Much as the Marvel execs might love the idea of a teen Spidey, Peter Parker grew up, got married, had a kid (albeit currently believed dead), and was a mature adult. Besides getting rid of the marriage they also dematured him with OMD and its never been the same since.

[marvelguy25]

Everything post OMD. Many of these stories are well told but they aren't Peter Parker. Much as the Marvel execs might love the idea of a teen Spidey, Peter Parker grew up, got married, had a kid (albeit currently believed dead), and was a mature adult. Besides getting rid of the marriage they also dematured him with OMD and its never been the same since.

honestly it's real frustrating that marvel keeps pulling them a-part. if joe quesada wasn't editor in cheif, we not only wouldn't have gotten civil war(maybe) but we would've gotten peter to still be would've gotten peter to still be with mj.

[MJS]

Everything post OMD. Many of these stories are well told but they aren't Peter Parker. Much as the Marvel execs might love the idea of a teen Spidey, Peter Parker grew up, got married, had a kid (albeit currently believed dead), and was a mature adult. Besides getting rid of the marriage they also dematured him with OMD and its never been the same since.

Agreed.

Also, Dan Slott himself set Peter's age at 28 (my age) in the last relaunch. He said Peter was bitten by a spider at 15, and that was 13 years ago. Even more time has passed so Peter is now closer to 30.

I don't want to be back in high school. And I hope to God I'm more mature and better able to deal with responsibility, setbacks and disappointments.

But Dan Slott writes Peter as if he never graduated middle school. Much less high school.

It's not fun reading about a whiny mental adolescent screwup who can't handle adult life even though he's almost 30. Now I read for the LULZ as in I laugh at the comic instead of with it and to see just how far Slott can go before he reaches rock bottom. Sad to say after ASM 13 he apparently still hasn't hit it.

I also agree with the people who call out the ASM movies as bad characterizations. I heard enough before hand that I refused to watch them in a movie theater and waited until they were on cable to see them. Still regret wasting those four hours on the films.

[marvelguy25]

Agreed.

Also, Dan Slott himself set Peter's age at 28 (my age) in the last relaunch. He said Peter was bitten by a spider at 15, and that was 13 years ago. Even more time has passed so Peter is now closer to 30.

I don't want to be back in high school. And I hope to God I'm more mature and better able to deal with responsibility, setbacks and disappointments.

But Dan Slott writes Peter as if he never graduated middle school. Much less high school.

It's not fun reading about a whiny mental adolescent screwup who can't handle adult life even though he's almost 30. Now I read for the LULZ as in I laugh at the comic instead of with it and to see just how far Slott can go before he reaches rock bottom. Sad to say after ASM 13 he apparently still hasn't hit it.

I also agree with the people who call out the ASM movies as bad characterizations. I heard enough before hand that I refused to watch them in a movie theater and waited until they were on cable to see them. Still regret wasting those four hours on the films.

not really a bad characterization. the giy was more human, flawed , and learned how to take responsibilities for his actions. as for slott, i think he got bored after superior, and it really shows.

[Icefalcon]

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