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    I'm convinced 'grimdark' has something to do with delivery/execution and context. There're a lot of works that do virtually the same thing but if one is largely joyless while the other even has been slightly peppered with moments that endear the observer then much can be forgiven while some things can be jarring if done poorly.

    Ultimately it's subjective but finds its way into objective reality if overused/overplayed or unbalanced and then consensus weighs in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinsir View Post
    I feel the same too.



    I don't think 'violence' equates to 'grimdark' though. Gore probably would qualify and I don't think most New 52 titles have gore.

    Interestingly, I saw the ending of Gwenpool and it ends with somebody being burned alive. This, in a cutsey, quirky, Marvel comic.
    The first month or two of New52 saw a lot of gore.
    I probably would've been better off waiting a few months before picking them up.
    It was a bad first impression for me of New52.
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    Maybe Rebirth stories will try to portray more joyful sex too. Maybe Dr Manhattan will work as a sex therapist on earth 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colonyofcells View Post
    Maybe Rebirth stories will try to portray more joyful sex too.
    You should change your name to batmite.

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    Dc should continue the batmite title since batmite can help characters increase joy in every issue. Maybe batmite can grant wishes and give magic virgins to the heroes. Maybe batmite might even give a free virgins unlimited service to Simon Baz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colonyofcells View Post
    Dc should continue the batmite title since batmite can help characters increase joy in every issue.
    lolhahahalol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennSimpson View Post
    I will confess that one month, probably a year or so into the new52, I took a full month's worth of new52 books and checked and every one of them had blood being spilled in some form or another, or at least most of them.

    Not sure if that is or isn't excessive.
    Not to mention the deaths of Cliff Baker and Damian Wayne happening only a week apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anduinel View Post
    Midnighter's supposed to be showing up in Nightwing's new book. No word on any of the others yet.
    Rose Tattoo is showing up in New Suicide Squad this month, courtesty of Tim Seely. I'd wager more will show up in Nightwing, given his track record with 'em. He used a good deal in Grayson, proportionately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonRain666 View Post
    They will probably be put back on their own earth. DC is doing the same thing with Milestone characters. No more Static teaming up with the Titans....thank God!
    Too bad we've heard nothing about earth m since it's announcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    Yeah, but one of those was Pandora, and nobody cares about her anyway. One of the others is Superwoman, and whatever, she'll be back eventually.
    Unlikely to be the same Superwoman. As for Pandora and Metron, think both are more likely to return..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonRain666 View Post
    They will probably be put back on their own earth. DC is doing the same thing with Milestone characters. No more Static teaming up with the Titans....thank God!
    May I ask what was wrong with Static teaming up with the Titans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Stone View Post
    The first month or two of New52 saw a lot of gore.
    I probably would've been better off waiting a few months before picking them up.
    It was a bad first impression for me of New52.
    Does it have an negative impact on how you currently view the New 52 now though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinsir View Post
    Does it have an negative impact on how you currently view the New 52 now though?
    Pretty much.
    It shaped my image of New52.
    Grayson and Batgirl turned it back around, but they were really DCYou prototypes that, to me, didn't reflect what I had come to expect of New52.

    I think if I had been more selective back then, maybe just getting a few titles that interested me, I would've been spared from most of the things that turned me off.
    That, and I went into New52 with high expectations.
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    Is it grim? Is it dark? Is it grimdark? Is it neither?

    You decide!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogotazo View Post
    Is it grim? Is it dark? Is it grimdark? Is it neither?

    You decide!

    The bottom left image (Iris West in Batgirl costume being murdered by Reverse Flash) dates back to *1979*, so this has been going on for quite some time.

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