Despite the controversy .. Superwoman remains in the top 10... in the same position ..
Despite the controversy .. Superwoman remains in the top 10... in the same position ..
Its possible that you're right. Its not a bad business model to explore at any rate, but I still question how viable Rebirth is long term. Right now we're all super thrilled to see DC taking so much of the market, but that was going to happen no matter what. A big, highly marketed re-branding with new #1's and costumes and creative teams will always be a big pull initially. But what will sales look like in a year or two, when the dust has settled and everyone has gotten over the hype?
This is the thing that concerns me about DC. There have been major problems behind the scenes for several years now, and Id argue they go back at least a decade. Those problems became apparent during the New52, but they were there before and they're still there now. How much has really changed when the shot-callers are still the same?
I fear this success is a blip on the radar and all too soon DC will be in the same position they were in back during 2009-2010 and 2015. Id feel much more confident in DC if we had new blood in positions of power, instead of the same people who caused many of the problems in the first place.
But time will tell, and right now I can just be happy to see DC doing well again.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
Its difficult to say how sales will be in a year or two but I'm just going to be happy about how they are now and hope they stay strong for that length of time. I do see your point though. I wish that DC (and Marvel to be honest) would get some new blood in positions for power. I'd really like to see someone other than Berganza heading up the Superman editorial office for one.
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Oh my goodness gracious! I've been bamboozled!
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Day 6 for Action Comics #961
Remains at number 5.
Minimum sales at 5917
Day 6 for Superwoman #1
Remains at number 8.
Minimum sales at 5899.
Day 6 for New Super-Man #2
Moves up to number 14.
Minimum sales at number 5852
Day 12 for Superman #4
Drops to number 38.
Minimum sales at 11695.
Day 20 for Action Comics #960
Drops to number 66.
Minimum sales at 19025
Day 26 for Superman #3
Drops to number 88.
Minimum sales at 24670
Day 33 for Action Comics #959
Drops to number 212.
Minimum sales at 31259
Day 33 for New Super-Man #1
Moves up to number 270.
Minimum sales at 30961.
Day 41 for Superman #2
Drops to number 170.
Minimum sales at 36882
Day 55 for Action Comics #958
Moves up to number 325.
Minimum sales at 43109
Day 62 for Superman #1
Moves up to number 194.
Minimum sales at 52885.
Day 68 for Action Comics #957
Drops to 279
Minimum sales at 60217
Day 76 for Superman Rebirth #1
Superman Rebirth #1 moves up to number 273.
Minimum sales at 66453
Day 1 for Superman #5
Starts at number 3.
Minimum sales at 992.
Day 1 for Supergirl Rebirth #1
Starts at number 6.
Minimum sales at 989.
Day 6 for Action Comics #961
Drops to number 21.
Minimum sales at 6890
Day 6 for Superwoman #1
Drops to number 23
Minimum sales at 6870.
Day 6 for New Super-Man #2
Drops to number 52
Minimum sales at number 6794
Day 12 for Superman #4
Drops to number 64.
Minimum sales at 12625.
Day 20 for Action Comics #960
Drops to number 169.
Minimum sales at 19850
Day 26 for Superman #3
Drops to number 151.
Minimum sales at 25513
Day 33 for Action Comics #959
Drops to number 405.
Minimum sales at 31848
Day 33 for New Super-Man #1
Drops to number 444.
Minimum sales at 31511.
Day 41 for Superman #2
Drops to number 268.
Minimum sales at 37608
Day 55 for Action Comics #958
Drops to number 458.
Minimum sales at 43645
Day 62 for Superman #1
Drops to number 272.
Minimum sales at 53607.
Day 68 for Action Comics #957
Drops to 399
Minimum sales at 60812
Day 76 for Superman Rebirth #1
Superman Rebirth #1 drops to number 284.
Minimum sales at 67163
What Ive been doing is looking at Marvel's re-branding efforts to try and get an idea of what to expect here.
Since 2012 Marvel has rolled out a new line-wide re-invention every 18-24 months. I dont follow sales too closely, and Marvel even less closely than DC, but what seems to happen is the line gets a big healthy shot of sales, and then things begin to drop at normal, or slightly higher, attrition rates. After a year and a half to two years sales are roughly back to pre-initiative levels and Marvel does it again.
Given the lack of excitement Marvel NOW 2.0 appears to be generating, it seems that this business model might be running its course and fans are starting to realize that these re-brandings are style over substance, but until NOW 2 really gets going who knows what the figures will actually be.
So between that and the DCYOU, Im guessing we have about a year (dwindling interest in the model plus double shipping) before DC's sales are back to what they were. But Im just guessing. And as you say, right now Im happy to just enjoy the fact that my favorite hero is selling well, even if Im sitting out.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
Day 2 for Superman #5
Remains at number 3.
Minimum sales at 1982.
Day 2 for Supergirl Rebirth #1
Remains at number 6.
Minimum sales at 1976.
Day 7 for Action Comics #961
Drops to number 34.
Minimum sales at 7848
Day 7 for Superwoman #1
Drops to number 36
Minimum sales at 7826.
Day 7 for New Super-Man #2
Drops to number 63
Minimum sales at number 7723
Day 13 for Superman #4
Moves up to number 61.
Minimum sales at 13556.
Day 21 for Action Comics #960
Drops to number 215.
Minimum sales at 20627
Day 27 for Superman #3
Moves up to number 147.
Minimum sales at 26358
Day 34 for Action Comics #959
Drops to number 420.
Minimum sales at 32420
Day 34 for New Super-Man #1
Drops to number 494.
Minimum sales at 32009.
Day 42 for Superman #2
Moves up to number 220.
Minimum sales at 38380
Day 56 for Action Comics #958
Drops to number 464.
Minimum sales at 44173
Day 63 for Superman #1
Moves up to number 236.
Minimum sales at 54363.
Day 69 for Action Comics #957
Drops to 435.
Minimum sales at 61369
Day 77 for Superman Rebirth #1
Superman Rebirth #1 drops to number 300.
Minimum sales at 67855
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Day 3 for Superman #5
Remains at number 3.
Minimum sales at 2973.
Day 3 for Supergirl Rebirth #1
Remains at number 6.
Minimum sales at 2965
Day 8 for Action Comics #961
Drops to number 44.
Minimum sales at 8797
Day 8 for Superwoman #1
Drops to number 46
Minimum sales at 8773
Day 8 for New Super-Man #2
Drops to number 112
Minimum sales at number 8604
Day 14 for Superman #4
Drops to number 66.
Minimum sales at 14483.
Day 22 for Action Comics #960
Drops to number 269.
Minimum sales at 21351
Day 28 for Superman #3
Moves up to number 127.
Minimum sales at 27224
Day 35 for Action Comics #959
Moves up to number 390.
Minimum sales at 33023
Day 35 for New Super-Man #1
Drops to number 517.
Minimum sales at 32485.
Day 43 for Superman #2
Moves up to number 208.
Minimum sales at 39165
Day 57 for Action Comics #958
Drops to number 472.
Minimum sales at 44753
Day 64 for Superman #1
Moves up to number 219.
Minimum sales at 55137.
Day 70 for Action Comics #957
Moves up to 413.
Minimum sales at 66194
Day 78 for Superman Rebirth #1
Superman Rebirth #1 moves up to number 381.
Minimum sales at 68567
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Day 4 for Superman #5
Remains at number 3.
Minimum sales at 3964.
Day 4 for Supergirl Rebirth #1
Remains at number 6.
Minimum sales at 2965
Day 9 for Action Comics #961
Drops to number 55.
Minimum sales at 9735
Day 9 for Superwoman #1
Drops to number 54
Minimum sales at 9712
Day 9 for New Super-Man #2
Drops to number 168
Minimum sales at number 9429
Day 15 for Superman #4
Drops to number 87.
Minimum sales at 15389.
Day 23 for Action Comics #960
Drops to number 282.
Minimum sales at 22062
Day 29 for Superman #3
Drops to number 153.
Minimum sales at 28064
Day 36 for Action Comics #959
Drops to number 433
Minimum sales at 33583
Day 36 for New Super-Man #1
Drops to number 536.
Minimum sales at 32942.
Day 44 for Superman #2
Moves up to number 188.
Minimum sales at 39980
Day 58 for Action Comics #958
Drops to number 487.
Minimum sales at 45259
Day 65 for Superman #1
Moves up to number 188..
Minimum sales at 55942.
Day 71 for Action Comics #957
Drops to 441
Minimum sales at 66754
Day 79 for Superman Rebirth #1
Superman Rebirth #1 moves up to number 190.
Minimum sales at 69370
Digitally, Superwoman is performing much better than New Super-Man. It's managed to move up a place above the issue of Action Comics that came out the same week, while New Super-Man quickly dropped below several old issues of Action Comics and Superman on its 2nd week.
Day 5 for Superman #5
Remains at number 3.
Minimum sales at 4954
Day 5 for Supergirl Rebirth #1
Remains at number 6.
Minimum sales at 3952
Day 10 for Action Comics #961
Drops to number 109.
Minimum sales at 10618
Day 10 for Superwoman #1
Drops to number 129
Minimum sales at 10575
Day 10 for New Super-Man #2
Drops to number 344
Minimum sales at number 10077
Day 16 for Superman #4
Drops to number 108.
Minimum sales at 16273.
Day 24 for Action Comics #960
Drops to number 356
Minimum sales at 22698
Day 30 for Superman #3
Drops to number 191.
Minimum sales at 28865
Day 37 for Action Comics #959
Drops to number 495
Minimum sales at 34080
Day 37 for New Super-Man #1
Drops to number 654.
Minimum sales at 33280.
Day 45 for Superman #2
Drops to number 240.
Minimum sales at 40732
Day 59 for Action Comics #958
Drops to number 535.
Minimum sales at 45716
Day 66 for Superman #1
Drops to number 215..
Minimum sales at 56719.
Day 72 for Action Comics #957
Drops to 482
Minimum sales at 67264
Day 80 for Superman Rebirth #1
Superman Rebirth #1 drops to number 228.
Minimum sales at 70122.
Some things about Rebirth surprise me. I hate some Rebirth series, I have a lot of problems with the general concept behind Rebirth and I think that some series are great. But there is one element which can't stop bugging me: it gives me an impression of an incredibly inexpensive event with a very good success. I mean, there are no superstars (except for a couple of names - does Rucka count?). For the most part, the creators are secondary writers and artists, and in a couple of cases (Green Arrow, Green Lantern) they are the very same writers who worked on the very same series before Rebirth. It's a curiously successful operation of rebranding which focused a lot on the editorial strategy rather than the big names.
Educational town, Rolemodel city and Moralofthestory land are the places where good comics go to die.
DC writers and editors looked up and shouted "Save us!"
And Alan Moore looked down and whispered "No."
I'm kinda surprised Snyder didn't want Superman to watch Lois and Bruce conceive their love child. All the while singing the "Na na na na na na Batman!" theme song - Robotman, 03/06/2021
Day 6 for Superman #5
Remains at number 3.
Minimum sales at 5949
Day 6 for Supergirl Rebirth #1
Moves up to number 5.
Minimum sales at 4945
Day 11 for Action Comics #961
Moves up to number 90.
Minimum sales at 11525
Day 11 for Superwoman #1
Moves up to number 103
Minimum sales at 11469
Day 11 for New Super-Man #2
Drops to number 352
Minimum sales at number 10722
Day 17 for Superman #4
Moves up to number 74.
Minimum sales at 17196.
Day 25 for Action Comics #960
Moves up to number 336
Minimum sales at 23359
Day 31 for Superman #3
Moves up to number 161.
Minimum sales at 29701
Day 38 for Action Comics #959
Drops to number 517
Minimum sales at 34560
Day 38 for New Super-Man #1
Drops to number 723.
Minimum sales at 33554.
Day 46 for Superman #2
Drops to number 240.
Minimum sales at 40732
Day 60 for Action Comics #958
Drops to number 595.
Minimum sales at 46118
Day 67 for Superman #1
Drops to number 252
Minimum sales at 58256.
Day 73 for Action Comics #957
Moves up to 477
Minimum sales at 67784
Day 81 for Superman Rebirth #1
Superman Rebirth #1 drops to number 231.
Minimum sales at 70874.
Overall, accounting for both physical and (to the best of our ability) digitally, how is Superman and Action Comics head-to-head? I'm just curious because I personally find Superman to be completely blowing Action Comics out of the water, so I'm curious how the sales reflect there comparatively.
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