Keeping track of Post-Rebirth Superman sales

[Sacred Knight]

Wow, are Marvel readers finally catching on that the product they're being given has been absolute horse manure for at least 5 years now?

[Ascended]

Wow, are Marvel readers finally catching on that the product they're being given has been absolute horse manure for at least 5 years now?

As I dont really follow sales data that closely I cant say, but Civil War II doesnt seem to be generating the buzz the first one did and appears to be getting a hefty amount of negative criticism.

But lets not forget that the Rebirth hype is still running strong and initiatives like this always start off well.

When this has been around for six months to a year, let's see how well DC's market share is holding up. That'll be the real test of Rebirth's success, not the short-term gains we're looking at right now.

[Sacred Knight]

I gave up on Marvel again for the time being when they let me down with the Dead No More storyline. I was all set to jump on board then they revealed it was about clones. Again. Comics are by their very nature repetitive, but Marvel's gone above and beyond lately, and have just screamed phoning it in for years now. The only effort they seem to put in is making sure their books sync with their crappy (albeit popular) movies.

[Ascended]

I gave up on Marvel again for the time being when they let me down with the Dead No More storyline. I was all set to jump on board then they revealed it was about clones. Again. Comics are by their very nature repetitive, but Marvel's gone above and beyond lately, and have just screamed phoning it in for years now. The only effort they seem to put in is making sure their books sync with their crappy (albeit popular) movies.

Maybe you're just not reading the right books? Mighty Thor has been a lot of fun (obviously the Odinson will return when this runs its course so I just sit back and enjoy the ride), and Ms. Marvel is always a blast, its right up there with Invincible as far as Im concerned. I've also enjoyed Daredevil well enough, Old Man Logan (likely better as a trade wait though, those issues feel thin), and Spider-Gwen (though it has been a bit rocky lately). And my wife adores the Spider-Woman and Black Widow titles. And the world building and character work in Black Panther has been wonderful and more than makes up for the fact that T'Challa himself doesnt get a ton of panel time. And pretty much anything Al Ewing writes is worth reading. His Ultimates is easily the best Justice League book I've read since Morrison and an excellent follow-up to Hickman's Avengers World construct.

Actually got more Marvel on my pull list than I do DC these days by a pretty wide margin, for the first time in at least a decade and a half.

Of course, you're right that they're far too obsessed with movie synergy, but you can't blame them either. Those movies make more in a weekend than the entire comics division in six months, trying to catch some of that magic in their comics is something they almost have to try to do.

I really hope chasing movie synergy is something DC manages to avoid. The short-term gains seem negligible, it only seems to really benefit lesser known characters (Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, Iron Man back in 2008) and DC's movie characters, other than Cyborg, already have a pretty high cultural profile.

[Superlad93]

Wow, are Marvel readers finally catching on that the product they're being given has been absolute horse manure for at least 5 years now?

Well to be fair Marvel has the most successful advertising for the world in the last 20 years. Their universe is also a bit more coherent as a whole. On a personal note, they've had Hickman, Gillen, Aaron, Fraction, Coates, King, and Ewing working for them. That's not even mentioning the AMAZING artist that they keep in a forever headlock.

But as of late and as a whole, Marvel has just been this ridiculous mess. "Civil War 2?" Seriously, Marvel?! Reading their current books--save a select few--is nearly impossible. They've turned into something ugly.

DC's public image is not as strong so they've got way more to prove. So far they're doing a good job of fixing that on the comic side of things. Now they just have to land without crashing.

[Superlad93]

I gave up on Marvel again for the time being when they let me down with the Dead No More storyline. I was all set to jump on board then they revealed it was about clones. Again. Comics are by their very nature repetitive, but Marvel's gone above and beyond lately, and have just screamed phoning it in for years now. The only effort they seem to put in is making sure their books sync with their crappy (albeit popular) movies.

I would at least recommend Hickman's (his F4/FF being his strongest, I feel) stuff and King's Vision book (one of the best comics currently running, imho).

[Sacred Knight]

Thanks guys, I'll keep those suggestions in mind!

[SuperCrab]

The currently on-going Squadron Supreme is pretty good, and I liked the two most recent volumes of Howard the Duck (Now concluded).

Squadron Supreme sticking on my subscription list ties Marvel with DC Comics as having one sub each, that's if you count Justice League of America, which had one new issue in like the past four months or so and who's future seems to be in doubt (I'm keeping it because it features the new52 Superman, in theory). Add Black Science, from an indie publisher, and that's about it.

I'm not saying Marvel is great- clearly, I don't really go for their more popular titles, but considering how much better I like the DC Comics characters and universe *in theory*, it's pretty remarkable that Rebirth has soured me on DC Comics so much that it's a dead heat (Actually, advantage Marvel, if you consider that JLA is probably not in active publication).

DC Comics is the one that's blown it in terms of editorial decisions. Sure, Rebirth is selling well now. We'll see where it's at in a couple years.

[RumpusMagoo]

Well to be fair Marvel has the most successful advertising for the world in the last 20 years. Their universe is also a bit more coherent as a whole. On a personal note, they've had Hickman, Gillen, Aaron, Fraction, Coates, King, and Ewing working for them. That's not even mentioning the AMAZING artist that they keep in a forever headlock.

But as of late and as a whole, Marvel has just been this ridiculous mess. "Civil War 2?" Seriously, Marvel?! Reading their current books--save a select few--is nearly impossible. They've turned into something ugly.

DC's public image is not as strong so they've got way more to prove. So far they're doing a good job of fixing that on the comic side of things. Now they just have to land without crashing.

One of the things I like about the Rebirth books right now (and really soured me on Marvel about a decade ago) is that the heroes in the books I'm pulling seem to be acting like heroes, without the mindless in-fighting and bickering. I know there was some of that in New 52, but Justice league really seems to have a superfriends vibe going for it (which is a compliment).

[BBally]

I gave up on Marvel again for the time being when they let me down with the Dead No More storyline. I was all set to jump on board then they revealed it was about clones. Again. Comics are by their very nature repetitive, but Marvel's gone above and beyond lately, and have just screamed phoning it in for years now. The only effort they seem to put in is making sure their books sync with their crappy (albeit popular) movies.

I recommend you read the current Ms. Marvel title, it is genuinely a pretty good read.

"Crappy" isn't the word that I would associate with the films by Marvel Studios (Fox's Marvel films however apart from Deadpool and First Class and Future's Past have been terrible), if anything the weakest movies from Marvel Studios have been average at worst (which is a lot better than the mess that is the DCEU especially BVS although I do like MOS)

[Dolores - The Worst Poster Ever]

The estimates are in.

Supergirl Rebirth #1 - 112,807
Superwoman #1 - 92,081
Superman #4 - 88,154
Superman #5 - 81,339
New Super-Man #2 - 72,522
Action Comics #961 - 71,821
Action Comics #961 - 64,328

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomi...6/2016-08.html

[Dolores - The Worst Poster Ever]

Day 3 for Action Comics #963

Moves up up number 5.

Minimum sales at 2977

Day 3 for Superwoman #2

Remains at number 12.

Minimum sales at 2958

Day 3 for New Super-Man #3

Remains at number 19.

Minimum sales at 2934

Day 9 for Superman #6

Moves down to number 54

Minimum sales at 8833

Day 9 for Supergirl #1

Moves down to number 90.

Minimum sales at 8726

Day 22 for Action Comics #962

Moves down to number 356

Minimum sales at 19517

Day 28 for Superman #5

Moves down to number 240

Minimum sales at 25028

Day 28 for Supergirl Rebirth #1

Moves down to number 378

Minimum sales at 22814

Day 33 for Action Comics #961

Moves up to 551

Minimum sales at 26510

Day 33 for Superwoman #1

Moves up to number 337

Minimum sales at 23897

Day 33 for New Super-Man #2

Moves up to number 694

Minimum sales at number 18705

Day 39 for Superman #4

Moves down to number 304

Minimum sales at 34919

Day 47 for Action Comics #960

Moves up to number 594

Minimum sales at 35553

Day 53 for Superman #3

Moves down to number 342

Minimum sales at 45866

Day 60 for Action Comics #959

Moves up to number 630

Minimum sales at 47385

Day 60 for New Super-Man #1

Moves down to number 833

Minimum sales at 37869

Day 68 for Superman #2

Moves down to number 344

Minimum sales at 55873

Day 82 for Action Comics #958

Moves up to number 664

Minimum sales at 56518

Day 89 for Superman #1

Moves down to to number 375

Minimum sales at 7337

Day 95 for Action Comics #957

Moves down to 765

Minimum sales at 76897

Day 101 for Superman Rebirth #1

Superman Rebirth #1 moves down to number 395

Minimum sales at 86331

[Dolores - The Worst Poster Ever]

Day 4 for Action Comics #963

Moves down to number 6.

Minimum sales at 3967

Day 4 for Superwoman #2

Remains at number 12.

Minimum sales at 3942

Day 4 for New Super-Man #3

Moves down to number 23.

Minimum sales at 3907

Day 10 for Superman #6

Moves down to number 60

Minimum sales at 9769

Day 10 for Supergirl #1

Moves down to number 124.

Minimum sales at 9598

Day 23 for Action Comics #962

Moves down to number 367

Minimum sales at 20146

Day 29 for Superman #5

Moves down to number 247

Minimum sales at 25777

Day 29 for Supergirl Rebirth #1

Moves down to number 404

Minimum sales at 23406

Day 34 for Action Comics #961

Moves up to 478

Minimum sales at 27028

Day 34 for Superwoman #1

Moves up to number 331

Minimum sales at 24562

Day 34 for New Super-Man #2

Moves up to number 571

Minimum sales at number 19130

Day 40 for Superman #4

Moves down to number 323

Minimum sales at 35592

Day 48 for Action Comics #960

Moves up to number 480

Minimum sales at 36069

Day 54 for Superman #3

Moves down to number 366

Minimum sales at 46496

Day 61 for Action Comics #959

Moves up to number 572

Minimum sales at 47809

Day 61 for New Super-Man #1

Moves up to number 669

Minimum sales at 38196

Day 69 for Superman #2

Moves down to number 365

Minimum sales at 56204

Day 83 for Action Comics #958

Moves up to number 627

Minimum sales at 56887

Day 90 for Superman #1

Moves down to to number 387

Minimum sales at 73984

Day 96 for Action Comics #957

Moves up to 639

Minimum sales at 77254

Day 102 for Superman Rebirth #1

Superman Rebirth #1 moves down to number 410

Minimum sales at 86917

[Dolores - The Worst Poster Ever]

Day 5 for Action Comics #963

Moves up to number 5.

Minimum sales at 4957

Day 5 for Superwoman #2

Remains at number 12.

Minimum sales at 4925

Day 5 for New Super-Man #3

Moves down to number 24.

Minimum sales at 4878

Day 11 for Superman #6

Moves down to number 77

Minimum sales at 10687

Day 11 for Supergirl #1

Moves down to number 188.

Minimum sales at 10405

Day 24 for Action Comics #962

Moves up to number 342

Minimum sales at 20799

Day 30 for Superman #5

Moves down to number 259

Minimum sales at 26513

Day 30 for Supergirl Rebirth #1

Moves up to number 387

Minimum sales at 24014

Day 35 for Action Comics #961

Moves up to 456

Minimum sales at 27567

Day 35 for Superwoman #1

Moves up to number 319

Minimum sales at 25238

Day 35 for New Super-Man #2

Moves up to number 561

Minimum sales at number 19564

Day 41 for Superman #4

Moves down to number 330

Minimum sales at 36257

Day 49 for Action Comics #960

Moves up to number 480

Minimum sales at 36584

Day 55 for Superman #3

Moves down to number 366

Minimum sales at 47125

Day 62 for Action Comics #959

Moves down to number 574

Minimum sales at 48230

Day 62 for New Super-Man #1

Moves up to number 644

Minimum sales at 38547

Day 70 for Superman #2

Moves up to number 354

Minimum sales at 56845

Day 84 for Action Comics #958

Moves up to number 572

Minimum sales at 57310

Day 91 for Superman #1

Moves up to to number 372

Minimum sales at 74607

Day 97 for Action Comics #957

Moves up to 615

Minimum sales at 77634

Day 103 for Superman Rebirth #1

Superman Rebirth #1 moves down to number 411

Minimum sales at 87501

[Dolores - The Worst Poster Ever]

Day 6 for Action Comics #963

Moves down to number 6.

Minimum sales at 5945

Day 6 for Superwoman #2

Remains at number 12.

Minimum sales at 5907

Day 6 for New Super-Man #3

Moves down to number 28.

Minimum sales at 5844

Day 12 for Superman #6

Moves down to number 98

Minimum sales at 11583

Day 12 for Supergirl #1

Moves down to number 230.

Minimum sales at 11169

Day 25 for Action Comics #962

Moves up to number 299

Minimum sales at 21494

Day 31 for Superman #5

Moves down to number 270

Minimum sales at 27237

Day 31 for Supergirl Rebirth #1

Moves up to number 360

Minimum sales at 24684

Day 36 for Action Comics #961

Moves up to 385

Minimum sales at 28176

Day 36 for Superwoman #1

Moves up to number 293

Minimum sales at 25939

Day 36 for New Super-Man #2

Moves up to number 501

Minimum sales at number 20057

Day 42 for Superman #4

Moves up to number 302

Minimum sales at 36949

Day 50 for Action Comics #960

Moves up to number 398

Minimum sales at 37180

Day 56 for Superman #3

Moves down to number 355

Minimum sales at 47764

Day 63 for Action Comics #959

Moves up to number 475

Minimum sales at 48749

Day 63 for New Super-Man #1

Moves up to number 590

Minimum sales at 38951

Day 71 for Superman #2

Moves up to number 319

Minimum sales at 57520

Day 85 for Action Comics #958

Moves up to number 477

Minimum sales at 57827

Day 92 for Superman #1

Moves up to to number 332

Minimum sales at 75269

Day 98 for Action Comics #957

Moves up to 513

Minimum sales at 78115

Day 104 for Superman Rebirth #1

Superman Rebirth #1 moves up to number 379

Minimum sales at 88116