JLA "Rebirth"? Where's the Big Seven?

[BohemiaDrinker]

You can do other things with Baz and Cruz to make them sell besides making them GLs and putting them in JLA.

No thanks. I like them as GLs in the JLA.

[Starchild]

No thanks. I like them as GLs in the JLA.

For once, I agree with you on something. Jess and Baz having the GL name attached to them is a huge advantage. They wouldnt be able to make it by being anything else.

[Lee Stone]

For me, the perfect Rebirth team would be:

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Cyborg
Vixen
Zatanna

[Punisher007]

For me, the perfect Rebirth team would be:

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Cyborg
Vixen
Zatanna

I'd personally throw Black Canary in there as well.

[Lee Stone]

I'd personally throw Black Canary in there as well.

I figure the League would have line-up changes and characters would come and go. Once Black Canary was free from Birds of Prey, she could easily be swapped in for Vixen or Zatanna. Or even Cyborg.

Or push it to eight members and put her in, then balance it out with Flash, Aquaman or one of the Green Lanterns.

[Superfly Frankenstein]

Why should we settle for one or even 2 teams...why not a few. Remember rebirth is about legacy, so lets do this!

We could have Justice League featuring: Superman, Batman, Wonder woman, Wally, John Stewart, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter.

Justice League of America with Hal, Barry, Ollie, Black Canary, Hawkman, Hawkwoman, and Ray Palmer.

Then, we go legacy...The society begat the league. So we think of something else...call it Justice Alliance. We try to have a character from each "family". Nightwing, Donna Troy, The two rookie GLs, Steel, Jessie Quick, plus Firestorm, Zatanna and Red Tornado.

Just a thought. Maybe something for everyone.

[MadFacedKid]

I figure the League would have line-up changes and characters would come and go. Once Black Canary was free from Birds of Prey, she could easily be swapped in for Vixen or Zatanna. Or even Cyborg.

Or push it to eight members and put her in, then balance it out with Flash, Aquaman or one of the Green Lanterns.

Personally I'd rather have either Superman, Batman, or Wonder Woman exit the league title if not all 3. Even without the JL title they still have the Trinity title. If you cut back Aquaman's appearances he'll probably begin to drop in sales and it's possibly the same issue with Flash though I doubt that now though since Rebirth gave The Flash and Titans title alot of focus.


I'd rather have the League be Martian Manhunter, Zatanna, Green Arrow, Cyborg, Green Lantern, Aquaman and The Flash. 4 of these characters have shown to sell really well on their own if done right so on a team setting I'd expect the same.

It's irrelevant though since the logical option is that DC would be thinking is have the JL resemble the movies as close as they can with minor if any differences. Same with the Suicide Squad, and possibly JL Dark if that happens. Just to keep some familiarity and bank off media showings.

[colonyofcells]

For founders, i prefer the silver age jla history be restored. For the current JL members, can just use the characters appearing in the rebirth group shot : supes, bats, WW, barry, jessica cruz, cyborg, aquaman, green arrow, hawkman, atom ray palmer, martian manhunter, black canary, firestorm, vixen, blue beetle jaime reyes, captain marvel.

[CRaymond]

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Of these, Green Lantern and Flash identities are mutable, and Martian Manhunter sits in the fifth chair. Ultimately, even the Big 7 can be distilled to SuperFriends, then the Trinity, then the World's Finest, or the League of One. It's as though the artist understands.

Personally, I'm a fan of big, loud, Satellite rosters with little rotating strike teams like we saw on TV in JLU. Gimme Zatanna, Canary, Arrow, Firestorm, Atom, Red Tornado/Torpedo/Inferno, Hawkman, Hawkwoman, Plastic Man, the Dibnys, Vixen, both Beetles, Booster, Fire, Ice, her Gardner, the other Lanterns, the Flash Family, Shazam, Captain Atom, Power Woman, Barda. I don't really want a really tight, emotionally bound Justice League. I want some goddamn professionals saving the day.

The only person I've ever said ehhh, nahhh to was Cyborg. And that's because he's IN a really tight, emotionally bound team already. The Titans molecule is possibly harder to shear than the JLA one, and that's to its credit.

[Jcogginsa]

To me, the Big 7 of the JLA are the the costumed identities, not the secret ones. So Any Flash or GL would do. As for the line up, just have Martian Manhunter on their in addition to Cyborg. And retcon in a Titans Membership for Cyborg

[Lee Stone]

For fun, I went through and restricted the numbers to the Gerry Conway Satellite era, JLA #125-232, which is the version I was first introduced to the JLA with...
So, using Mike's Amazing World again, here's the JLA from the Gerry Conway Satellite era:

1. Superman (93 issues)
2. Black Canary (74)
3. Flash (72)
4. Batman (70)
5. Green Lantern/Hal Jordan (67)
6. (tie) Green Arrow and Elongated Man (65 each)
8. Wonder Woman (64)
9. Hawkman (63)
10. Red Tornado (59)
11. Aquaman (53)
12. (tie) Atom and Zatanna (47 each)
14. Hawkgirl (33)
15. Firestorm (32)
16. Martian Manhunter (1)

So really, for me, the 'Big League' would be nine members:
Superman
Black Canary
Flash
Batman
Green Lantern/Hal Jordan
Green Arrow
Elongated Man
Wonder Woman
Hawkman

[Zero Hunter]

Why should we settle for one or even 2 teams...why not a few. Remember rebirth is about legacy, so lets do this!

We could have Justice League featuring: Superman, Batman, Wonder woman, Wally, John Stewart, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter.

Justice League of America with Hal, Barry, Ollie, Black Canary, Hawkman, Hawkwoman, and Ray Palmer.

Then, we go legacy...The society begat the league. So we think of something else...call it Justice Alliance. We try to have a character from each "family". Nightwing, Donna Troy, The two rookie GLs, Steel, Jessie Quick, plus Firestorm, Zatanna and Red Tornado.

Just a thought. Maybe something for everyone.

If you going to do that they should just use the JLU model from the cartoon. A huge team with members being used story by story as needed. My prefered version of the Justice League only has 3 out of the big 7 in any one story at a time with them only coming together fully when a major threat appears. I like it when they aknowledge that Superman or Batman or Wonder Woman are too busy in their own books to answer every single call the League gets.

[darkseidpwns]

For once, I agree with you on something. Jess and Baz having the GL name attached to them is a huge advantage. They wouldnt be able to make it by being anything else.

They wont be able to make it by as anything period, the competition with the plethora of other GLs' many of whom have established fanbases who see these two as nothing but Johns attempt to actually consolidate Hal Jordan as the only GL will surely destroy them, and lets face it they have a point. These 2 are Johns creations and Hal is Johns pet and Johns has all but ignored John, Kyle etc so why the sudden love for diversity from Johns?Still I think Jess is cool but Baz is an utterly stupid character, replacing him with Stewart would have been a stroke of genius on DC's part but they chose to go with a horrible caricature of a Muslim superhero. With tattoos and a name like Simon he already becomes hard to be recognizable as Muslim by many Muslims, his life,attitude and backstory is just a series of stereotypes. A criminal who is accused of being a terrorist and now he angrily spends his time proving why he's not a terrorist and often ending up doing some stupid crap that makes his assertion look questionable and then they gave him a gun just cause, small wonder he faded off the face of the Earth with in a year only to make a miraculous and unexpected comeback. Geoff Johns had no clue what he doing with this guy, he's just pushing him to prevent other characters from being pushed he aint no Kamala Khan.

People should just stop defending bad depictions of minorities as diversity, the purpose of diversity is inclusion, Baz aint going to make anyone feel included.

[Vinsanity]

To me I think the JLA should be rotating. Not TT.

My 7 would be

- Superman
- Wonder Woman
- Batman
- The Flash
- Cyborg
- Vixen
- GL (Jess, Simon or Guy)

With rotating rosters that include: Hawkgirl, Aquaman, Mera, Starfire (GET OUT OF TT), Green Arrow, Black Canary, Black Lightning, SHAZAM, The Atom. There that's it.

[Trey Strain]

For once, I agree with you on something. Jess and Baz having the GL name attached to them is a huge advantage. They wouldnt be able to make it by being anything else.

That's the whole point about them. As they stand now, they're charity cases.

But there is a way they could make it outside JLA:

http://community.comicbookresources....Earth-Lanterns