Do you object to Black Widow and Hulk's romance in the MCU?

**Greg** · 06-09-2016, 08:25 AM

It was one of the few things I actually liked in the movie.

**Agent Z** · 06-09-2016, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Supernature

I don't mind the idea but Gawd... it could have been executed better.

Originally Posted by ed2962

It didn't offend me for different from the comic, it bothered me because the writing was so bad.

Pretty much how I feel.

**Username taken** · 06-09-2016, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Tiamatty

That it moves away from comic canon doesn't bother me. The movies aren't the comics, and shouldn't feel obligated to be beholden to them. I was more bothered by how weak the romance was. They didn't have much romantic chemistry, and there were some serious problems with some elements of how it was handled.

Pretty much this.

It's one of the "Whedonisms" that didn't work in AOU.

**Frontier** · 06-09-2016, 08:31 AM

I wouldn't say it offended me, because that's a very strong word, but it certainly wasn't an element I really enjoyed about Age of Ultron nor want to see more of in future Avengers movies.

I generally hope and prefer the movies stay as true to the comics as possible when it comes to characters and relationships, so that was already a knock against it, but it's also doesn't hold a candle to the relationship between Bucky and Black Widow in the comics, which thanks to Brutasha we might potentially never see on-screen (though the Russo's and screenwriters never establishing their past history in the Cap movies doesn't help either). It also just felt very random and undeveloped in the film itself.

By comparison, I'm really loving what they're doing with Vision and Scarlet Witch in the movies

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**Master Man** · 06-09-2016, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by MindofShadow

nothing like dating the dude who put a bullet through you, tried to kill you another time, and then almost choked the like out of you.

sounds... AWESOME~!

... Exactly. True love.

And it wasn't a bullet. It was cupid's arrow.

**tg1982** · 06-09-2016, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Agent MM

... Exactly. True love.

And it wasn't a bullet. It was cupid's arrow.

LOL. Nice job.

I voted no, but I wasn't enthused about it either. Really, I was just apathetic towards the whole relationship.

**Holt** · 06-09-2016, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Kieran_Frost

Does this blatant disregard for ignoring comic canon (or lack there of) offend you? Thoughts?

Complaining about the movies taking liberty with the comic canon is a lost cause. All the MCU movies take liberties with the canon to some degree. The only reason I disliked it was because I felt it was really silly and badly handled.

**klynn** · 06-09-2016, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Agent MM

Do I object to Black Widow & Hulk?
Yeah. Apart from me thinking Widow/Hulk is poop

, it also might have diminished any chance (if any) of Bucky/Nat. I'm sure there would be some accusation of Marvel passing the only female Avenger around.

This exactly. Dammit, Marvel.....

**Of Atlantis** · 06-09-2016, 10:07 AM

Does anyone actually oppose the idea itself? Black Widow and Banner/Hulk, I mean, regardless of how well it could've been portrayed or not?

Because to me it's a huge stretch to even entertain the thought. Can't see Black Widow playing Betty Ross's position at all.

**Winterboy** · 06-09-2016, 10:15 AM

No way.

Banner is not the type of guy for Natasha.

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**Frontier** · 06-09-2016, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Of Atlantis

Does anyone actually oppose the idea itself? Black Widow and Banner/Hulk, I mean, regardless of how well it could've been portrayed or not?

Because to me it's a huge stretch to even entertain the thought. Can't see Black Widow playing Betty Ross's position at all.

Yes. Both because I prefer those characters in other relationships and because I don't feel like the relationship even works as an idea, irregardless of the execution.

**SeanBansheeCassidy** · 06-09-2016, 10:21 AM

Haha I actually expect this to become the latest sexuality/opression disaster thread. The faxt it didn't is great!

**MyriVerse** · 06-09-2016, 11:06 AM

Far be it for me to object to anyone's romantic interests. Even if they're fictional characters.

Unless it involves:
- squirrely people (no love for Doreen!

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- Sentry (disgusting Rogue insinuation)
- Sue & Doom
- Kitty & guys named Peter
- incest or rape or stuff like that.

**ed2962** · 06-09-2016, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Of Atlantis

Does anyone actually oppose the idea itself? Black Widow and Banner/Hulk, I mean, regardless of how well it could've been portrayed or not?

Because to me it's a huge stretch to even entertain the thought. Can't see Black Widow playing Betty Ross's position at all.

I guess in theory it could have been made to work with enuff creativity, but on my personal list Banner would be low on the list for Nat to date.

**gurkle** · 06-09-2016, 11:28 AM

Obviously it didn't offend me, but it didn't work. Joss Whedon was trying to find something for everybody to do in the movie and he didn't want to do the obvious Black Widow/Hawkeye pairing, I understand that. It was almost a process of elimination: he couldn't do a romance with Cap, Iron Man or Thor because they have love interests in their own movies.

But it just didn't feel right, probably because most of us have come to expect these movies to have a little bit of continuity in them. If they'd even hinted at it in Avengers or The Winter Soldier then it might have worked (just like people accepted the Vision/Scarlet Witch 'ship because it was hinted at in Avengers 2). As it is, it felt like they were being pushed together because they were two attractive people who didn't have their own movies.

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