How does Rachel Grey's H2H/CQC skills compare to the other X-Ladies?

[yogaflame]

[yogaflame]

And one more of his more than human ability...

[Wind Rider]

And one more of his more than human ability...

Good and helpful scans Yoga .

There's nothing there about superhuman flexibility, just above average and essentially saying he's a contortionist.

His physiology is different (toes, fingers, fur, teeth, eyes, etc) but nothing to do with his agility or acrobatic ability really. Without powers he'd still ideally wipe the floor with most X-Men h2h, Rachel and Storm included.

Well I guess we can agree to disagree on his agility being superhuman or not. I get your point and your scan. But Yoga's scans (plus what he pointed out in your scan) shows that his agility is beyond a normal humans, and he would have to be superhuman if he can keep up with Spider-Man. The jumping height, fluidity of movement, and speed he applies is not just above average, and just wouldn't make canonical sense to say a person of above average agility and well developed acrobatics can hang with one of the fastest and most agile characters in Marvel.

I agree that with his agility + acrobatic ability + H2H skills he would beat most of the X-Men, including Rachel and Ororo. My point, and it's partly illustrated by one of Yoga's scans, is that the effectiveness of his fighting style and ability would be significantly diminished without his physical advantages. It makes his kill level debatable when he needs the edge granted by his physical stats to take out skilled opponents.

[LordAllMIghty]

Sorry but no, Kurt's agility and reflexes really are 100% natural. Nothing to do with his mutation, just lots of hard work.

Wait, is this from that issue where Kurt was able to blend into the shadows...becoming almost invisible?

[Ricochet Rita]

It is, from a late Excalibur issue by Davis as writer/artist. Why're you asking about?