How would you feel about new52 Superman as the SM line's version of Nightwing?

[SuperCrab]

So, when the Batman line decided they wanted to move on from Dick Grayson as Robin, Dick became Nightwing, with his own book and costume, mostly fighting on his own.

We've kind of talked about this before, but some time has passed and I wanted to put it in a more straight forward way:

What if new52 Clark Kent came back with his memories and powers (or some of his powers) intact, but for whatever reason wound up with a different secret identity and his own book?

For the sake of discussion, let's say he wears the family crest and cape, but his variant of the costume is green (His biological parents wore green, right?), blue, and red instead of just red and blue, and he just goes by Kal-El or something. He could keep the high collar and the Kryptonian body armor, since SuperDad isn't using them, and they could make him even more distinctive. Maybe he defends another city. He could still work as a reporter, since SuperDad doesn't, but at a different newspaper. Maybe he doesn't go by Clark Kent as his human name because Clark Kent is well known to be a superhero in this universe, and that name change further removes him from stepping on SuperDad's toes.

Alternately, they could just make him like Truth Superman with a t-shirt, jeans, and a motorcycle and a limited power set, riding around the country seeing sights and kicking butt (Under whatever name).

Either way, he's got all the memories and personality of the new52 Superman, because that's who he is, even though he wouldn't call himself Superman in the book.

I don't know what the storyline rationale is of him not being Superman again, but I'm sure they'd think of something.

Personally, I would subscribe to that book.

I'd rather he come back and be Superman, but if it isn't happening, I'd rather see him revived in his own book that I could read every month than have to choose between ditching Superman entirely or dealing with this SuperDad/SuperJon crap.

[Dispenser Of Truth]

Don't think so. At least dead he remains a figure of significance; Robin to Nightwing is an upgrade, but Superman to this is a demotion forced by outside circumstances.

[adrikito]

Don't think so. At least dead he remains a figure of significance; Robin to Nightwing is an upgrade, but Superman to this is a demotion forced by outside circumstances.

I try to see this comics but because I LIKE NIGHTWING.. But I think the same of Dispenser of Truth.

Although if my character returns as Clark Kent(he still alive in September) seems a large-scale degradation of a character... GOODBYE AGAIN.. Once said that interests me Superman by Clark Kent? The boring part should continue? He is better death..

[Agniwolf]

So, when the Batman line decided they wanted to move on from Dick Grayson as Robin, Dick became Nightwing, with his own book and costume, mostly fighting on his own.

We've kind of talked about this before, but some time has passed and I wanted to put it in a more straight forward way:

What if new52 Clark Kent came back with his memories and powers (or some of his powers) intact, but for whatever reason wound up with a different secret identity and his own book?

For the sake of discussion, let's say he wears the family crest and cape, but his variant of the costume is green (His biological parents wore green, right?), blue, and red instead of just red and blue, and he just goes by Kal-El or something. He could keep the high collar and the Kryptonian body armor, since SuperDad isn't using them, and they could make him even more distinctive. Maybe he defends another city. He could still work as a reporter, since SuperDad doesn't, but at a different newspaper. Maybe he doesn't go by Clark Kent as his human name because Clark Kent is well known to be a superhero in this universe, and that name change further removes him from stepping on SuperDad's toes.

Alternately, they could just make him like Truth Superman with a t-shirt, jeans, and a motorcycle and a limited power set, riding around the country seeing sights and kicking butt (Under whatever name).

Either way, he's got all the memories and personality of the new52 Superman, because that's who he is, even though he wouldn't call himself Superman in the book.

I don't know what the storyline rationale is of him not being Superman again, but I'm sure they'd think of something.

Personally, I would subscribe to that book.

I'd rather he come back and be Superman, but if it isn't happening, I'd rather see him revived in his own book that I could read every month than have to choose between ditching Superman entirely or dealing with this SuperDad/SuperJon crap.

someone (dont remember who, sorry) once had the idea of the name "Scion", if that should be the case it would be a good enough name for me to buy it too

[Kuwagaton]

If he came back in Truth fashion, with his underdog of the people thing going, I would dig it. I had a real problem with the story but the concept works well when there is another, more traditional Superman out there. He could totally pal around, with what he already has in a supporting cast and relationships within the superhero community. Road Dog Kal.

[suemorphplus209]

If he came back in Truth fashion, with his underdog of the people thing going, I would dig it. I had a real problem with the story but the concept works well when there is another, more traditional Superman out there. He could totally pal around, with what he already has in a supporting cast and relationships within the superhero community. Road Dog Kal.

I certainly would be interested in having one public Superman. He's young, he can take it, and if so, it would distinguish him.

[Sacred Knight]

I wouldn't be a taker. Its a demotion. If he comes back, it should be as Superman. Or don't do it at all.

[superduperman]

I don't see any point in bringing him back at all if they aren't going to let him be Superman. They rebooted the universe for a reason and apparently forgot what that reason was. No matter what they do, there are people who are going to be unhappy.

[suemorphplus209]

So, when the Batman line decided they wanted to move on from Dick Grayson as Robin, Dick became Nightwing, with his own book and costume, mostly fighting on his own.

We've kind of talked about this before, but some time has passed and I wanted to put it in a more straight forward way:

What if new52 Clark Kent came back with his memories and powers (or some of his powers) intact, but for whatever reason wound up with a different secret identity and his own book?

For the sake of discussion, let's say he wears the family crest and cape, but his variant of the costume is green (His biological parents wore green, right?), blue, and red instead of just red and blue, and he just goes by Kal-El or something. He could keep the high collar and the Kryptonian body armor, since SuperDad isn't using them, and they could make him even more distinctive. Maybe he defends another city. He could still work as a reporter, since SuperDad doesn't, but at a different newspaper. Maybe he doesn't go by Clark Kent as his human name because Clark Kent is well known to be a superhero in this universe, and that name change further removes him from stepping on SuperDad's toes.

Alternately, they could just make him like Truth Superman with a t-shirt, jeans, and a motorcycle and a limited power set, riding around the country seeing sights and kicking butt (Under whatever name).

Either way, he's got all the memories and personality of the new52 Superman, because that's who he is, even though he wouldn't call himself Superman in the book.

I don't know what the storyline rationale is of him not being Superman again, but I'm sure they'd think of something.

Personally, I would subscribe to that book.

I'd rather he come back and be Superman, but if it isn't happening, I'd rather see him revived in his own book that I could read every month than have to choose between ditching Superman entirely or dealing with this SuperDad/SuperJon crap.

Superdad goes by Smith, so you don't have two Clark Kents. As far as I am concerned, the Smiths are the grown up equivalents. I don't have a problem with them staying Smith or with any kind of returned Nuperman being named Clark Kent. There's no reason why you can't leave Nuperman dead or bring him back with the name Superman either. There's plenty of ways to distinguish the two Supermen if needs be. One can be JSA, obviously one is married with a kid, one goes by Smith instead of Kent, etc.

[cxranger]

So, when the Batman line decided they wanted to move on from Dick Grayson as Robin, Dick became Nightwing, with his own book and costume, mostly fighting on his own.

We've kind of talked about this before, but some time has passed and I wanted to put it in a more straight forward way:

What if new52 Clark Kent came back with his memories and powers (or some of his powers) intact, but for whatever reason wound up with a different secret identity and his own book?

For the sake of discussion, let's say he wears the family crest and cape, but his variant of the costume is green (His biological parents wore green, right?), blue, and red instead of just red and blue, and he just goes by Kal-El or something. He could keep the high collar and the Kryptonian body armor, since SuperDad isn't using them, and they could make him even more distinctive. Maybe he defends another city. He could still work as a reporter, since SuperDad doesn't, but at a different newspaper. Maybe he doesn't go by Clark Kent as his human name because Clark Kent is well known to be a superhero in this universe, and that name change further removes him from stepping on SuperDad's toes.

Alternately, they could just make him like Truth Superman with a t-shirt, jeans, and a motorcycle and a limited power set, riding around the country seeing sights and kicking butt (Under whatever name).

Either way, he's got all the memories and personality of the new52 Superman, because that's who he is, even though he wouldn't call himself Superman in the book.

I don't know what the storyline rationale is of him not being Superman again, but I'm sure they'd think of something.

Personally, I would subscribe to that book.

I'd rather he come back and be Superman, but if it isn't happening, I'd rather see him revived in his own book that I could read every month than have to choose between ditching Superman entirely or dealing with this SuperDad/SuperJon crap.

I really like your idea and I want him back in action. I'd fully support any reasonable form for NuSuperman to come back. He needs to be back. He does not have to be the central Superman, but he can still be a Superman. There is room for both, with one more experienced/married than the other. After reading "Last Days" it would be an absolute travesty to not keep him around; there were some great moments there. I also think the romance with WW has been a very nice addition to the larger mythos.

I think we'll find out he was either Conner or something crazy like a version of Hyper-Man holding down the fort. I also like the red/blue Superman idea from manofsteel1979 derived from the Millennium Giants storyline - Johns occasionally pulls forward past ideas. I suspect the Legion will have a hand in bringing him back.

Whatever they do DO NOT MERGE THEM! They are different beings! We really don't need a schizophrenic Superman.

[Tayswift]

I really like your idea and I want him back in action. I'd fully support any reasonable form for NuSuperman to come back. He needs to be back. He does not have to be the central Superman, but he can still be a Superman. There is room for both, with one more experienced/married than the other. After reading "Last Days" it would be an absolute travesty to not keep him around; there were some great moments there. I also think the romance with WW has been a very nice addition to the larger mythos.

I think we'll find out he was either Conner or something crazy like a version of Hyper-Man holding down the fort. I also like the red/blue Superman idea from manofsteel1979 derived from the Millennium Giants storyline - Johns occasionally pulls forward past ideas. I suspect the Legion will have a hand in bringing him back.

Whatever they do DO NOT MERGE THEM! They are different beings! We really don't need a schizophrenic Superman.

It wasn't a good addition to both superman and wonder owman mythology. it failed pretty badly

[suemorphplus209]

I really like your idea and I want him back in action. I'd fully support any reasonable form for NuSuperman to come back. He needs to be back. He does not have to be the central Superman, but he can still be a Superman. There is room for both, with one more experienced/married than the other. After reading "Last Days" it would be an absolute travesty to not keep him around; there were some great moments there. I also think the romance with WW has been a very nice addition to the larger mythos.

I think we'll find out he was either Conner or something crazy like a version of Hyper-Man holding down the fort. I also like the red/blue Superman idea from manofsteel1979 derived from the Millennium Giants storyline - Johns occasionally pulls forward past ideas. I suspect the Legion will have a hand in bringing him back.

Whatever they do DO NOT MERGE THEM! They are different beings! We really don't need a schizophrenic Superman.

I have felt fine with there being two myself, especially given that there is one that is essentially a "sequel" to what happened in the post-crisis continuity. Another one, since he is a different person, can do things differently, IMO. I liked Post-Crisis as something I grew up with. I like Nuperman because he is essentially a DC equivalent of an Ultimate Marvel character that I got to see get his start in my day. I wouldn't mind having two Supermen, when there is a distinction between the two and I get both.

[stephens2177]

someone (dont remember who, sorry) once had the idea of the name "Scion", if that should be the case it would be a good enough name for me to buy it too

I am the one who keeps dropping the SCION name around here,BUT not for nuperman,for kon-el.kon is the SUPER character who needs a "nightwing" evolution,now more than ever with jon taking the superboy mantle,and kenan taking his old stchick.