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    Quote Originally Posted by tsaimelemoni View Post
    Beast will be playable in Marvel Heroes sometime soon.

    Beast and Nightcrawler are being added to Contest of Champions, which has had no issues doing variant versions of the mutants in game, while occasionally adding new ones like Cyclops, Old Man Logan and X-23.

    Sure, they're not everywhere in every game, but they certainly have a presence.
    Marvel Heroes and COC came out before the 'cut off' point where Ike ordered that no X-Men and FF characters must appear in future games and media made by Marvel outside the comics, hence why they continue to be allowed to because of licencing issues. Avengers Alliance 2 for example, no X-Men characters or FF characters compared to the first.

    Anyway, I'd rather have a Marvel solo game, don't give a damn about Capcom characters who just took up wasted space in those games. Let Capcom make a Capcom solo game if they want. I'm sure it would sell but I wouldn't especially care.
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    At the very least, it would be nice to see the MvC games returned to digital stores even if a new game isn't likely.

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    If they're going to do as bad a hack job as MVC3 and UMVC3 were, they might as well just skip it. I bought both 3 and they just sit on the shelf. Porting over the new SF controller scheme killed that game due to oversimplification. They should just update the graphics in MVC2 and leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Metaltron View Post
    Marvel Heroes and COC came out before the 'cut off' point where Ike ordered that no X-Men and FF characters must appear in future games and media made by Marvel outside the comics, hence why they continue to be allowed to because of licencing issues. Avengers Alliance 2 for example, no X-Men characters or FF characters compared to the first.

    Anyway, I'd rather have a Marvel solo game, don't give a damn about Capcom characters who just took up wasted space in those games. Let Capcom make a Capcom solo game if they want. I'm sure it would sell but I wouldn't especially care.
    They're adding X-Men characters to Marvel Heroes NOW. That would be past the cut off point you're talking about.

    They could do an all Marvel game, but, it probably wouldn't be half as interesting. Let's be honest, when it comes to some stuff, like martial artist characters, the Marvel side of things is kind of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dstinct View Post
    If they're going to do as bad a hack job as MVC3 and UMVC3 were, they might as well just skip it. I bought both 3 and they just sit on the shelf. Porting over the new SF controller scheme killed that game due to oversimplification. They should just update the graphics in MVC2 and leave it at that.
    The game doesn't even kind of have the controller scheme of any Street Fighter game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simbob4000 View Post
    They're adding X-Men characters to Marvel Heroes NOW. That would be past the cut off point you're talking about.

    They could do an all Marvel game, but, it probably wouldn't be half as interesting. Let's be honest, when it comes to some stuff, like martial artist characters, the Marvel side of things is kind of shit.
    That's because the game was initially released before the cut off date. Anything where that applies can still feature X-Men or FF characters due to licencing rules for that game wat the time. Any game which started after the released of Contest of Champions has not had any included because of Ike's strict edict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Metaltron View Post
    That's because the game was initially released before the cut off date. Anything where that applies can still feature X-Men or FF characters due to licencing rules for that game wat the time. Any game which started after the released of Contest of Champions has not had any included because of Ike's strict edict.
    That doesn't make any sense. If Marvel is saying it's a no go on X-Men all together, you wouldn't be getting new X-Men characters added into these games, even if they already had some before. Hell, of the three games you brought up before, it's only kind of weird X-Men aren't in one of them; because, after all, two of them are Avengers games. That one where it seems kind of weird being Marvel Future Fight, but than that game looks like it's pulling from the movies for the looks of most of the characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simbob4000 View Post
    That doesn't make any sense. If Marvel is saying it's a no go on X-Men all together, you wouldn't be getting new X-Men characters added into these games, even if they already had some before. Hell, of the three games you brought up before, it's only kind of weird X-Men aren't in one of them; because, after all, two of them are Avengers games. That one where it seems kind of weird being Marvel Future Fight, but than that game looks like it's pulling from the movies for the looks of most of the characters.
    Contract.
    Marvel makes a contract. Those made before the embargo can use X-Men those after cannot.

    CoC is the only new Marvel game with any X-Men.

    So licensing deal made before the embargo.

    Look at Avengers Alliance 1. Had X-Men then quit giving us any new ones at a point.

    Also why no Wanda in FF/Academy/MAA2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonspider89 View Post
    Contract.
    Marvel makes a contract. Those made before the embargo can use X-Men those after cannot.

    CoC is the only new Marvel game with any X-Men.

    So licensing deal made before the embargo.

    Look at Avengers Alliance 1. Had X-Men then quit giving us any new ones at a point.

    Also why no Wanda in FF/Academy/MAA2.
    They're Marvel controlled games developed under Marvel. They aren't the same kind of deal as stuff like Marvel vs Capcom or Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Marvel Heroes getting new X-Men probably has nothing at all to do with contracts, it's probably more because that's a game that makes its money on you buying characters and stuff for those characters, and Marvel is seemingly not so stupid to try in give you Agent 13 as opposed to an X-Men character like Beast.

    Is the first Avengers Alliance missing any major X-Men?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simbob4000 View Post
    They're Marvel controlled games developed under Marvel. They aren't the same kind of deal as stuff like Marvel vs Capcom or Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Marvel Heroes getting new X-Men probably has nothing at all to do with contracts, it's probably more because that's a game that makes its money on you buying characters and stuff for those characters, and Marvel is seemingly not so stupid to try in give you Agent 13 as opposed to an X-Men character like Beast.

    Is the first Avengers Alliance missing any major X-Men?

    No. The only games done in house by Marvel is the MAA games. The other games are done by independent companies with there own contracts.

    You can look up the game companies. Just because they are mobile doesn't mean they aren't there own game companies.

    MAA doesn't have Jubilee and teased Sunspot then stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonspider89 View Post
    No. The only games done in house by Marvel is the MAA games. The other games are done by independent companies with there own contracts.

    You can look up the game companies. Just because they are mobile doesn't mean they aren't there own game companies.

    MAA doesn't have Jubilee and teased Sunspot then stopped.
    Marvel Heroes is seemingly put out by Marvel, and that Avengers Academy game seems to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simbob4000 View Post
    Marvel Heroes is seemingly put out by Marvel, and that Avengers Academy game seems to be.
    Nope. Marvel Heroes is developed by Gazillion and Avengers Academy is done by Tapout.

    Two independent companies.

    Gazillion's contract is up for renewal in 2017.

    Unsure about Tapout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonspider89 View Post
    Nope. Marvel Heroes is developed by Gazillion and Avengers Academy is done by Tapout.

    Two independent companies.

    Gazillion's contract is up for renewal in 2017.

    Unsure about Tapout.
    Being put out by Marvel has nothing to do with who developed the game.

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    i dont even think capcom is capable of putting out another fighting game given they're all focused on street fighter currently.
    but if they do take the risk, ill be sure to support it 100%. anyway im cool with no X-characters honestly. seriously there's tons of characters in Marvel why get so hung up on a few ones. just looking at the new characters in mvc3, is a sign that they're able to make anyone look great in a fighting game. im glad we had characters like Nova, Strange, Dorm, Hawkeye and taskmaster added in rather than seeing cyclops, cable , bone wolverine, iceman and psylocke again ...
    id like to see ultron, black panther, captain marvel added

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    Quote Originally Posted by daisetsu100 View Post
    i dont even think capcom is capable of putting out another fighting game given they're all focused on street fighter currently.
    but if they do take the risk, ill be sure to support it 100%. anyway im cool with no X-characters honestly. seriously there's tons of characters in Marvel why get so hung up on a few ones. just looking at the new characters in mvc3, is a sign that they're able to make anyone look great in a fighting game. im glad we had characters like Nova, Strange, Dorm, Hawkeye and taskmaster added in rather than seeing cyclops, cable , bone wolverine, iceman and psylocke again ...
    id like to see ultron, black panther, captain marvel added
    They're completely different teams with completely different people overseeing them.

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