“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
Is this the sentence you are talking about? Because if so... then there is no discussion to be had.
Last edited by Rakurai; 06-20-2021 at 12:00 PM.
Yes, exactly. The X-Men used to protect humanity for reasons other than "because what about the ecosystem", and far less begrudgingly. Glad the new X-Men aren't bound by the half-supervillain council, or at least that's what the writers claim.
I swear...there are three and four different versions of the comics on the shelf for some readers to draw the conclusions they get. Either that or...
Either way, Rakurai is absolutely correct...there is absolutely no discussion to be had.
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I think Storm's point there was not comparing humanity to bees, specifically, but pointing out that mutantkind's future is still tied to humanity, in that, for most cases, a mutant is born to human parents, and letting them all die off is like butterflies going on a genocidal rampage against caterpillars.
Well mutants can give birth to mutants, and is the stated goal of Law 2. So they don't really need humans for that anymore.
Though I wonder what's happen if mutant parents had a human kid in this era. Given the sliding timeline it basically couldn't happen as a story, but it's an interesting bidea. Would they just kick them off the island?
Last edited by gonnagiveittoya; 06-20-2021 at 12:11 PM.
Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
Its really very sad that "fans" of the X-Men don't understand the use of an allegory, Storm made a comparison about how species rely on other species and people condemn her for comparing people to bees? That's beyond just missing the point and into the realm of willful ignorance.
Not true, Kyle lives there, Shogo lived there. Apocalypse offered to take Brian Braddock there. Jean Grey said that non-mutants could come if they were brought by a mutant. They are pretty restrictive but not nearly to the point you are implying.
Bullcrap, we already know this is false because Shogo was living there without any problems until Jubilee chose to go the the lighthouse in Excalibur. This is pure nonsense, the 2nd law says nothing about penalizing people who don't have kids or whos kids turn out human. You are making up things that haven't even been hinted at in an attempt to throw shade at Krakoa.
Last edited by Kisinith; 06-20-2021 at 12:37 PM.
Seems to me that some are being obtuse about gonnagiveittoya's point: Storm isn't directly saying humans are as low as bees, but when have the X-Men fought for humans because of the ecosystem? Or how humans benefit mutants? Used to be that the X-Men would defend even hateful humans because it was the right thing to do.
Does it need doing?
Yes.
Then it will be done.
Does it need doing?
Yes.
Then it will be done.