Your Unpopular/Controversial Opinions on the X-Universe

[Grunty]

Another one from BoB: when Malarkey talks to the one German prisoner who grew up in the same town as he did, the ACTUAL prisoner grew up ON THE SAME BLOCK. But that would have been a coincidence too many.

"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; truth isn’t." - Mark Twain

When Magneto says "I'm not racist, my best friend is human," this is what he means

Isn't he more a "Arraki without powers"? I faintly recall he actualy didn't consider himself a human.

Though technicaly mutants are still fundamentaly human, regardless of how people on both sides might throw terminology around to argue why they aren't.

Hmm. Perhaps we need a "Stryker was wrong!" T-shirt with the scene of him pointing at Nightcrawler for a change.

[Frobisher]

When Magneto says "I'm not racist, my best friend is human," this is what he means

Nah, it’s because he banged Briar Raleigh (where she?) every which way but loose.

[Frobisher]

Yeah, calling his own species "superior" is a bit of a giveaway.

I mean, they kind of are though aren’t they? The most impressive thing humans can do is keepy ups with a hacky sack for a few minutes.

[Doom'nGloom]

I mean, they kind of are though aren’t they? The most impressive thing humans can do is keepy ups with a hacky sack for a few minutes.

What do we mean by human? If we mean the average Joe on the street then sure but if we put the hyper intelligent ones into that category (Reed, Doom, Stark, Pym etc.) than each of those guys have some plot breaking inventions that can even put omega level mutants to shame. I truly believe super intelligence is the greatest power in comics since it can usually create whatever the plot needs to.

[Galerion]

I mean, they kind of are though aren’t they? The most impressive thing humans can do is keepy ups with a hacky sack for a few minutes.

Isn't Dr. Strange a human? Im pretty sure he wipes the floor with most mutants too.

What do we mean by human? If we mean the average Joe on the street then sure but if we put the hyper intelligent ones into that category (Reed, Doom, Stark, Pym etc.) than each of those guys have some plot breaking inventions that can even put omega level mutants to shame. I truly believe super intelligence is the greatest power in comics since it can usually create whatever the plot needs to.

Well that and magic. Both are so general that it lets them do literally anything that is required.

[Zelena]

In fairness, I'm a human and I don't like humans very much. I think we are cruel, petty, crafty apes who--at best--strive to be better than our base instincts as we hurtle through space on a giant rock circling a dying ball of gaseous flame. But that certainly doesn't make me a racist because my disdain isn't limited by race. Does it make me species-ist, instead? Or is it impossible for me to be a species-ist because of my species? Like, only people from other species can be species-ist. Not people who look like me?

I don’t have a high opinion of humans but it’s my species. It’s inescapable. I’m of the same species as people that committed genocides and will make of this Earth a hot hell burning all the fossil fuels they will find.

What I liked in Claremont’s stories is that he didn’t try to make of the X-men better people than the average human, they had a lot of qualities (strength, courage…) but also the same flaws as any human, and particularly any reader. We could identify with them and their problems: they loved, hated, made mistakes…

The current era hasn’t this depth. The mutants have become aliens. The process of identification still work apparently but it’s dissonant: we still are humans and they are not… and particularly with the immortality thing.

[CoCoBandz]

I mean, they kind of are though aren’t they? The most impressive thing humans can do is keepy ups with a hacky sack for a few minutes.

Basically this.

For as smart as the human eggheads are the only thing stopping them from getting absolutely railroaded right now by The CotV and Orchis are the merry mutants.

[Alan2099]

So there's a currently viral post on Twitter about Magneto that refers to him as "the magnet racist" and people are of course mad about it but...is it not accurate? Like even the most modern and friendly versions of Magneto he's never actually liked humans

It's completely accurate and sadly, applies to most mutants these days as well.

[jwatson]

Except magneto just died saving humanity. Lmao. I am so glad I don't do Twitter those people really sound like drooling talking heads that just say anything cause they can. Lol.

[gonnagiveittoya]

It's completely accurate and sadly, applies to most mutants these days as well.

Yeah it does kinda suck that the X-Men all just pivoted their views overnight and off-panel.

[Devaishwarya]

Except magneto just died saving humanity. Lmao. I am so glad I don't do Twitter those people really sound like drooling talking heads that just say anything cause they can. Lol.

Ironically (or maybe not) CBR isn't exempt from that sub-set of humanity either. Thankfully on both fora it's very easy to avoid dat assness an' dotish fockery.

[Metal Sphere]

So there's a currently viral post on Twitter about Magneto that refers to him as "the magnet racist" and people are of course mad about it but...is it not accurate? Like even the most modern and friendly versions of Magneto he's never actually liked humans

Magneto casually came up during a classroom discussion regarding racism, and the various forms it has taken in the past and how one could see examples of it in fictional works. Several folks in the class pointed out Magneto (and I'll add, Emma Frost) was like a slave owner who had slaves work in their house, had children with them, etc... But in the end they will never consider them human or equal, with the promise of "corrective" violence and imposed obedience hanging in the air at all times.

Seeing that tweet jogged my memory on this. There's certainly tiers to it.

Apolcapyse - Would have no problem with a genocidal campaign against humans
Magneto - Would have no problem with mutant supremacy resulting in the displacement and oppression of humans
White Queen - Would have no problem with humans being nothing more than servants or cattle (this is the norm with how she treats humans and human laws/authority)
Xavier - Would have no problem with mutants leading the globe even if it causes problems for humans


What's interesting is that scene in Judgement Day #6 where Jean is blatantly called out for being so casual with actions that would result in near human extinction and mutant supremacy. That she pulled back on it and responded with empathy instead was a great character moment and set her apart from the folks I mentioned above.

[CoCoBandz]

Except magneto just died saving humanity. Lmao. I am so glad I don't do Twitter those people really sound like drooling talking heads that just say anything cause they can. Lol.

If it doesn't fit their agenda it didn't happen. The truth takes up too much space in the echo chamber.

[Zelena]

Apolcapyse - Would have no problem with a genocidal campaign against humans
Magneto - Would have no problem with mutant supremacy resulting in the displacement and oppression of humans
White Queen - Would have no problem with humans being nothing more than servants or cattle (this is the norm with how she treats humans and human laws/authority)
Xavier - Would have no problem with mutants leading the globe even if it causes problems for humans

I understand why you simplified it but it’s worth noting that what are these characters changed greatly along the years and depending on the authors… Apolcapyse, I don’t know him well, White Queen, true, not so much but Magneto has changed many times and Xavier have changed a lot. This latter, as far I can remember, always tried to find a common ground. His change of heart is very recent.

[Devaishwarya]

On second thought...