Your Unpopular/Controversial Opinions on the X-Universe

[Killerbee911]

We already saw that krakoa has plans to conquer the world via economical chaos

Nowhere said that lol. Magneto the person you are talking about said they are going to become "the" economic power so humans can't screw them. Magneto said we are going to beat you at your own debt /leverage game.

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Of course, the image decides to be stupid but anyways Magneto says via the drugs we are going to give humans a better life and then raise the prices. With that money, they are going buy up the banks, schools and media. No chaos ,No war. Simple business

The funniest thing about this run is watching fans go the X-men(krakoa) is being "evil", No the X-men(krakoa) is being a normal country. Beast did something ugly in name of black ops to another country, The US CIA try to assassinate Fidel Castro multiple times, The US CIA trained Osama Bin Laden to fight the Soviet Union. Krakoa wants to be economic power so it can dictate terms in world politics, The US put trade sanctions on countries so they listen to what the US wants from them. Some of the "evil" stuff Krakoa is doing is just normal World super power country stuff. Human stuff

[Rang10]

HavenÂ’t they imprisoned Omega Red at least twice at this point? That story is currently unfolding but I believe that theyÂ’re doing their best to handle him.

There are always going to be mutants and humans who do bad things. Humans get a bad rap in X-Men comics because itÂ’s not uncommon to see government-sanctioned violence, which is more systemic. So far the Krakoan government has been able to keep itÂ’s villains under control or at least respond accordingly when a mutant civilian is doing wrong. So far their biggest hiccup isnÂ’t any former villains, itÂ’s Beast.

They got him and tried to brainwash him. He is not imprisoned.
After commit crimes the bare minimum is get tht person, but the obviously that he owuld commit crimes and no one was there to stop him. luLcky that Logan was the only one to not like it so he went after him.

I'm not seeing villains in control, I'm seeing them scheming behind everyone. The results will become a snowball pretty soon

Nowhere said that lol. Magneto the person you are talking about said they are going to become "the" economic power so humans can't screw them. Magneto said we are going to beat you at your own debt /leverage game.

mag1.jpg

Of course, the image decides to be stupid but anyways Magneto says via the drugs we are going to give humans a better life and then raise the prices. With that money, they are going buy up the banks, schools and media. No chaos ,No war. Simple business

The funniest thing about this run is watching fans go the X-men(krakoa) is being "evil", No the X-men(krakoa) is being a normal country. Beast did something ugly in name of black ops to another country, The US CIA try to assassinate Fidel Castro multiple times, The US CIA trained Osama Bin Laden to fight the Soviet Union. Krakoa wants to be economic power so it can dictate terms in world politics, The US put trade sanctions on countries so they listen to what the US wants from them. Some of the "evil" stuff Krakoa is doing is just normal World super power country stuff. Human stuff

These companies employs millions and are important economically. Krakoa could totally make a financial chaos that would make the 2008 blush

[Cyke]

They not doing anything other goverments of earth or even Tony Stark and Reed Richards have already done, do commerce on a global scale. The only difference is they meant to seek to tackle those institutions that will seek to destroy them just for being mutants, that´s just self defense not a wish to conquer everybody else.

God, ain't that the truth. We can talk about villains and morality all the live long day, but the US government tries to maintain its economic control over the world and employs politicians and other powerful figures that order air strikes in foreign territories, the locking up of children in cages, the funding for police brutality and incarceration, and the manufacturing of shelter, food, and vaccine shortages, all of which kill thousands on a daily basis. Several of the worst X-Men villains on Krakoa wish they had even just a fraction of that kill record.

Krakoa is doing what they need to do in order to survive as a sovereign nation, and as that above post from Magneto's dinner with the UN shows, they not only learn from history, but seek to improve upon it.

[Killerbee911]

These companies employs millions and are important economically. Krakoa could totally make a financial chaos that would make the 2008 blush

To be honest I think you are reading into something that isn't there, what is being described isn't chaos in fact this a good example

The list price of insulin has gone from about $20 per vial in 1996, when Humalog entered the market, to about $275 per vial today. Humalog patients typically use about two vials a month,

I am keep saying it, the "evil stuff" that Krakoa is doing, Is kinda standard practice normal stuff. I mean it is yeah it is "evil" but not in the way you thinking about or maybe it is and we have a bunch of real-life supervilliains.

[Devaishwarya]

To be honest you are reading into something that isn't there, what is being described isn't chaos in fact this a good example



I am keep saying it, the "evil stuff" that Krakoa is doing, Is kinda standard practice normal stuff. I mean it is yeah it is "evil" but not in the way you thinking about or maybe it is and we have a bunch of real-life supervilliains.

You say that as if you're unsure. But we most certainly do.

[Rang10]

To be honest I think you are reading into something that isn't there, what is being described isn't chaos in fact this a good example



I am keep saying it, the "evil stuff" that Krakoa is doing, Is kinda standard practice normal stuff. I mean it is yeah it is "evil" but not in the way you thinking about or maybe it is and we have a bunch of real-life supervilliains.

Well if they destroy the companies, chaos will end up happening. And magneto doesn't care for any economical consequences.

just because people do bad things, krakoa shouldn't follow it

[Kingdom X]

Well if they destroy the companies, chaos will end up happening. And magneto doesn't care for any economical consequences.

just because people do bad things, krakoa shouldn't follow it

Well I for one am glad that Hickman created a country that actually interacts with other nations in a realistic way instead of just sitting in the middle of the ocean not worrying about trade or global power structures. Sure it’s not pretty, but international relations rarely are.

[Chris0013]

Well I for one am glad that Hickman created a country that actually interacts with other nations in a realistic way instead of just sitting in the middle of the ocean not worrying about trade or global power structures. Sure it’s not pretty, but international relations rarely are.

Realistically like walking thru a mutant only gate instead of by plane, boat or car and going thru a valid point of entry and being inspected by customs officials?

Realistically like NOT having any other country's embassy on their soil to deal with diplomatic issues?

Realistically like stealing a country's relic and being given a free pass because the king of that country used to stick his whatnot in the thief?

[Omega Alpha]

Well if they destroy the companies, chaos will end up happening. And magneto doesn't care for any economical consequences.

just because people do bad things, krakoa shouldn't follow it

Who said anything about destroying companies? He wants to buy them.

[Zelena]

Well I for one am glad that Hickman created a country that actually interacts with other nations in a realistic way instead of just sitting in the middle of the ocean not worrying about trade or global power structures. Sure it’s not pretty, but international relations rarely are.

It is not a documentary about international trade and relations, it is a comic made for entertaining purposes. It has just a cosmetic veneer of realism.

[Kingdom X]

Realistically like walking thru a mutant only gate instead of by plane, boat or car and going thru a valid point of entry and being inspected by customs officials?

Realistically like NOT having any other country's embassy on their soil to deal with diplomatic issues?

Realistically like stealing a country's relic and being given a free pass because the king of that country used to stick his whatnot in the thief?

Lol i will admit you’ve got me there. I should have I’m glad that there’s a degree of realism.

[Rang10]

Realistically like walking thru a mutant only gate instead of by plane, boat or car and going thru a valid point of entry and being inspected by customs officials?

Realistically like NOT having any other country's embassy on their soil to deal with diplomatic issues?

Realistically like stealing a country's relic and being given a free pass because the king of that country used to stick his whatnot in the thief?

Exactly there isn't nothing realistic about krakoa

[The tall man]

Who cares? Mutants don't need the moral high ground they were pushed to point were basically forced to team up with their villains as means of survival. They rather be around these mass murders than the mass murders who want to kill mutants. If humans don't view all the mutants the same the "good " mutants wouldn't have to team up with "bad" mutants. When it is about your survival you will the help you can get.

They are people in the Krakoa government who aren't good people, That is true of all governments. That is maybe the most human thing about Krakoa. And as you were told Krakoa has taken all of those big bad mass murders but them on the island away from humans AND force them to follow a set of rules the main one being "Don't kill humans". So all those mass murderers aren't out here mass-murdering, Krakoa has kept them in check. While on the other human forces have constantly attack mutants on Krakoa so who is really the bad guy? Now.

If Humans would leave mutants alone on their island it would be peaceful, Krakoa isn't trying to expand or conquer, They just are trying to have their endless raves and wait for humanity to destroy themselves or mostly become mutants.

Well it could be said that humans are trying to stave off their own extinction in the face of mutant expansion and looming domination. And just as mutants see themselves as being justified in their actions to defend themselves, humans do as well. When a species see their back is against a wall they will do whatever it takes to survive. It would be foolish to think humanity is just going to roll over for mutants, that they will let their species go into that good night without a fight.

Would mutants accept staying on their island if the humans pledge not to bother or interfere with them? Would they destroy all the gates planted in various countries around the world and keep to themselves on Krakoa, I suspect not. Its Its highly hypocritical that mutants don't want humans on Krakoa but have no problem going into sovereign countries to do whatever they want. What would mutants do if all the nations decided to end diplomatic relations, reject the drugs, destroy the gates on their land and ban mutants from entering their borders? How would Krakoa react to that? Would they accept that and stay on Krakoa or would they ignore it and do whatever they want? And if they did ignore the other countries decrees would said countries have the right to attack Krakoa, and would mutants have any right to complain?

[Rang10]

Well it could be said that humans are trying to stave off their own extinction in the face of mutant expansion and looming domination. And just as mutants see themselves as being justified in their actions to defend themselves, humans do as well. When a species see their back is against a wall they will do whatever it takes to survive. It would be foolish to think humanity is just going to roll over for mutants, that they will let their species go into that good night without a fight.

Would mutants accept staying on their island if the humans pledge not to bother or interfere with them? Would they destroy all the gates planted in various countries around the world and keep to themselves on Krakoa, I suspect not. Its Its highly hypocritical that mutants don't want humans on Krakoa but have no problem going into sovereign countries to do whatever they want. What would mutants do if all the nations decided to end diplomatic relations, reject the drugs, destroy the gates on their land and ban mutants from entering their borders? How would Krakoa react to that? Would they accept that and stay on Krakoa or would they ignore it and do whatever they want? And if they did ignore the other countries decrees would said countries have the right to attack Krakoa, and would mutants have any right to complain?

Even the countries that rejected Krakoa like Brazil have the gates. That is a nightmare that majority of nations would not accept. A bunch of people getting in and out with diplomatic immunity. On top of that super powers

[Vishop]

Unpopular Opinion: En Sabah Nur literally became a douche "Apocalypse" with his origins revealed during XoS. That guy is nowhere near deadly anymore with respect to his motivations. zzzzz