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    I'd like to see more of IcemanxMongrel.

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    I think that as a rule of thumb, characters with narrower/more focused powers should excel at their speciality compared to generalists if there is an overlap at what they can do, so that no mutant is ever rendered redundant and will always be an asset to their team, no matter the team composition. For example, Wind Dancer should have better control over air/gases than Storm, who in turn has access to a much wider and more versatile range of effects she can produce, and while Magneto can also affect electric currents to a certain degree, Surge should have him beat in that field, etc.
    Their diversity should be the X-Men's greatest strength, not individual power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfish View Post
    I think that as a rule of thumb, characters with narrower/more focused powers should excel at their speciality compared to generalists if there is an overlap at what they can do, so that no mutant is ever rendered redundant and will always be an asset to their team, no matter the team composition. For example, Wind Dancer should have better control over air/gases than Storm, who in turn has access to a much wider and more versatile range of effects she can produce, and while Magneto can also affect electric currents to a certain degree, Surge should have him beat in that field, etc.
    Their diversity should be the X-Men's greatest strength, not individual power.
    AKA the specialist rule.

    I don't think that is controversial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myownlittleusername View Post
    AKA the specialist rule.

    I don't think that is controversial.
    Heh, probably not, but I thought this is perhaps the closest we have to a "general opinion" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfish View Post
    I think that as a rule of thumb, characters with narrower/more focused powers should excel at their speciality compared to generalists if there is an overlap at what they can do, so that no mutant is ever rendered redundant and will always be an asset to their team, no matter the team composition. For example, Wind Dancer should have better control over air/gases than Storm, who in turn has access to a much wider and more versatile range of effects she can produce, and while Magneto can also affect electric currents to a certain degree, Surge should have him beat in that field, etc.
    Their diversity should be the X-Men's greatest strength, not individual power.
    It’s a nice idea in principle but I don’t think many writers could cope with finding dead raccoons stuffed in their mail box after implying that Storm is not the best at everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfish View Post
    I think that as a rule of thumb, characters with narrower/more focused powers should excel at their speciality compared to generalists if there is an overlap at what they can do, so that no mutant is ever rendered redundant and will always be an asset to their team, no matter the team composition. For example, Wind Dancer should have better control over air/gases than Storm, who in turn has access to a much wider and more versatile range of effects she can produce, and while Magneto can also affect electric currents to a certain degree, Surge should have him beat in that field, etc.
    Their diversity should be the X-Men's greatest strength, not individual power.
    Quote Originally Posted by Frobisher View Post
    It’s a nice idea in principle but I don’t think many writers could cope with finding dead raccoons stuffed in their mail box after implying that Storm is not the best at everything.
    LMFAO quoted for truth

    Also they need to make Telepathy more diverse.Jean, Emma, Xavier, Cuckoos, Betsy etc. should all have fields they specialize in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderfan001 View Post
    LMFAO quoted for truth

    Also they need to make Telepathy more diverse.Jean, Emma, Xavier, Cuckoos, Betsy etc. should all have fields they specialize in.
    People HAVE tinkered with that idea though. I think the problem is a later writer comes along and goes "telepath #34529" and stops there.

    Like Karma.... she didn't have full range of powers.... but had a really strong one. Or Chamber who could broadcast his thought... but nothing else. IIRC Psylocke used to be either a lot better at, or limited to reading minds. I vaguely recall someone having the specialty of copying someone's memories, but not being able to do most of the other telepathy feats. Then there's Forget-me-not.... who just makes you forget things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    I vaguely recall someone having the specialty of copying someone's memories, but not being able to do most of the other telepathy feats.
    Prodigy has the power where he can mimic skills and knowledge of people he's near but couldn't retain when they were away, although the Cuckoos removed the block on all the previous knowledge he had learned once he lost his powers. I don't think they ever established if the block came back when he was resurrected with his powers intact. Hmm...does Xavier have to constantly have psychic defenses up whenever he's around Prodigy to protect Krakoan secrets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfish View Post
    Heh, probably not, but I thought this is perhaps the closest we have to a "general opinion" thread.
    I think it’s worth bringing up here because we often want our favorites to the be the most powerful in every single category, which is largely a symptom of writers equating feats with meaningful character development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frobisher View Post
    It’s a nice idea in principle but I don’t think many writers could cope with finding dead raccoons stuffed in their mail box after implying that Storm is not the best at everything.
    LOL. The same is true for Jean, between the two of them "unhinged" is a very diplomatic way of describing their stans. I generally agree with the point though, especially re: telepathy. The Cuckoos should be better at long-range broadcasting than Karma, who should be better at telepathic possession than Psylocke, who should be better at "psycho-blasts" than Moonstar, who should be better at psionic weapon manifestation than Monet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davetvs View Post
    LOL. The same is true for Jean, between the two of them "unhinged" is a very diplomatic way of describing their stans. I generally agree with the point though, especially re: telepathy. The Cuckoos should be better at long-range broadcasting than Karma, who should be better at telepathic possession than Psylocke, who should be better at "psycho-blasts" than Moonstar, who should be better at psionic weapon manifestation than Monet.
    Absolutely yes to this. I love the idea of some telepaths being particularly capable at certain feats, and others, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom X View Post
    I think it’s worth bringing up here because we often want our favorites to the be the most powerful in every single category, which is largely a symptom of writers equating feats with meaningful character development.
    I am absolutely cognisant of all the different ways we enjoy comics, but I have never wanted my favourite to be ultra-powerful and ‘feats’ leave me completely cold. I just don’t understand it. Never have.
    Kurt ‘ported a moon in WoX but I was way more invested who would be there to greet him when he came out of the egg after resurrection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paragon View Post
    Prodigy has the power where he can mimic skills and knowledge of people he's near but couldn't retain when they were away, although the Cuckoos removed the block on all the previous knowledge he had learned once he lost his powers. I don't think they ever established if the block came back when he was resurrected with his powers intact. Hmm...does Xavier have to constantly have psychic defenses up whenever he's around Prodigy to protect Krakoan secrets?
    I wouldn't be suprised if he messed around with any mutant mind who's powers could potentialy unveil the secret, but leave it at only doing so regarding things specific to him, Mags, Moira and Krakoa, so it won't be as noticable.

    Though if Prodigy got near Xavier and suddently wonders what the "La Li Lu Le Lo" is, we will know for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom X View Post
    I think it’s worth bringing up here because we often want our favorites to the be the most powerful in every single category, which is largely a symptom of writers equating feats with meaningful character development.
    Yes it has become a too common tool of writers. When in doubt just inflate the power display of the heros. Which in turn means the next writer feels like they need to overshadow the previous and eventualy they either just don't know what to do anymore and drop the character or come up with some way downgrade them again after which the cycle will often just repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davetvs View Post
    LOL. The same is true for Jean, between the two of them "unhinged" is a very diplomatic way of describing their stans. I generally agree with the point though, especially re: telepathy. The Cuckoos should be better at long-range broadcasting than Karma, who should be better at telepathic possession than Psylocke, who should be better at "psycho-blasts" than Moonstar, who should be better at psionic weapon manifestation than Monet.
    Now I feel the need to make a thread about telepathy variants...

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    Has the time finally come to nerf telepaths/telekinetics? It's what I've wanted all along.
    Does it need doing?
    Yes.
    Then it will be done.

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