Your Unpopular/Controversial Opinions on the X-Universe

[WhiteQueenEmmaFrost]

Everyone including the fans are just going through the motions. Marvel & DC should've been shut down years ago.

[Midnight_v]

Everyone including the fans are just going through the motions. Marvel & DC should've been shut down years ago.

Hey I don't come to the controversial opinions thread and try to "Prove people wrong" or "Say I disagree with you/you're opinion... blah blah blah" so forgive me for
questioning this one.
Yet... I'm really curious to know more, if you have second.
1. What makes you feel this way.
2. How are "fans" going through the motions exactly?

3. and most importantly what... What would have to happen for you to feel differently about this?

I look here often but I find myself buying more manga and less X-books. I feel like I'm an x-fan at heart but the cycle of extinction event~reset~ad-nausea has me down on the franchise.

Do tell you're perspective if your so inclined.

[FUBAR007]

Everyone including the fans are just going through the motions. Marvel & DC should've been shut down years ago.

Nah. While I understand the sentiment, what they really need is better management. And editors who aren't wedded to the storytelling conventions of the monthly magazine format.

What they need to is let their characters age, progress, and eventually retire and die. Then, either start over and reinvent the franchise for a new generation or move on to new characters.

[Striderblack01]

I think the people who ship JeanxSteve Rogers, which apparently seems to be quite a few, are undersestimating exactly how old and out-of-touch Cap is.

And how fiery Jean is.

I get that there are similarities between Steve and classic Scott, but no.

If we’re talking potential ships with Jean, (outside of Scott) it’s actually pretty difficult.
She kinda raises the bar.

I see her with a georgous, well-spoken statesman who can legitimately be down with the mutant cause, doesn’t have a problematic relationship history, and can handle her...wild side.
And that’s a pretty short list.

Namor - not serious.
Black Panther - romantic history with her best friend
Kurt - romantic history with her daughter from an alternate dimension
Thor - maybe
Silver Surfer - maybe
Falcon - maybe

No one really nails it for me (her).

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

I prefer EmmaxScott and LoganxOroro over a Scott/Jean/Logan love triangle.

[yogaflame]

Nah. While I understand the sentiment, what they really need is better management. And editors who aren't wedded to the storytelling conventions of the monthly magazine format.

What they need to is let their characters age, progress, and eventually retire and die. Then, either start over and reinvent the franchise for a new generation or move on to new characters.

lol. That's like telling oil companies they should divest in petroleum and reconfigure for sustainable free energy!

[WhiteQueenEmmaFrost]

Hey I don't come to the controversial opinions thread and try to "Prove people wrong" or "Say I disagree with you/you're opinion... blah blah blah" so forgive me for
questioning this one.
Yet... I'm really curious to know more, if you have second.
1. What makes you feel this way.
2. How are "fans" going through the motions exactly?

3. and most importantly what... What would have to happen for you to feel differently about this?

I look here often but I find myself buying more manga and less X-books. I feel like I'm an x-fan at heart but the cycle of extinction event~reset~ad-nausea has me down on the franchise.

Do tell you're perspective if your so inclined.

The way people bitch & moan and the companies never change. Fans will continue to buy comics regardless if they like them or not because of compulsion. DC & Marvel are stuck in an "event every three months...major events every six month" cycle. The prices are going up and the quality is going down. There hasn't been money in print media for more than 30 years.

The quality would have to change

[spirit2011]

I think the people who ship JeanxSteve Rogers, which apparently seems to be quite a few, are undersestimating exactly how old and out-of-touch Cap is.

And how fiery Jean is.

I get that there are similarities between Steve and classic Scott, but no.

If we’re talking potential ships with Jean, (outside of Scott) it’s actually pretty difficult.
She kinda raises the bar.

I see her with a georgous, well-spoken statesman who can legitimately be down with the mutant cause, doesn’t have a problematic relationship history, and can handle her...wild side.
And that’s a pretty short list.

Namor - not serious.
Black Panther - romantic history with her best friend
Kurt - romantic history with her daughter from an alternate dimension
Thor - maybe
Silver Surfer - maybe
Falcon - maybe

No one really nails it for me (her).

Jean was attracted to wolverine and married with Scott, with all respect to these characters, I think any of these guys would do well with Jean

[Striderblack01]

Jean was attracted to wolverine and married with Scott, with all respect to these characters, I think any of these guys would do well with Jean

Hm. You do, huh?

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Don't take this the wrong way but, how many relationships have you had?

I'm just trying to get a gauge here.
Because I really don't see how it's ok to date your daughter's ex. Or to try to get with your bestie's ex hubby.

But if you think it's okay - more power to you.

[TheCape]

Hm. You do, huh?

...

Don't take this the wrong way but, how many relationships have you had?

I'm just trying to get a gauge here.
Because I really don't see how it's ok to date your daughter's ex. Or to try to get with your bestie's ex hubby.

But if you think it's okay - more power to you.

To be fair, i don't think that Marvel is going to remember that Rachel/Kurt was a thing, like is bot exactly popular.

[Striderblack01]

To be fair, i don't think that Marvel is going to remember that Rachel/Kurt was a thing, like is bot exactly popular.

I mean, I guess.

Doesn't really seem like a strong reason.
It's just that lots of people rail about a certain notorious kiss at Jean's grave, but now it's ok for Jean to hook up with T'Challa? Or Kurt?

I'm trying to understand.

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Anyway, the real point is: I don't get Jean x Cap.

It mystifies me.
I can only attribute it to a shallow understanding of Scott - this desire to hook Jean up with 'classic' Scott.

[TheCape]

I mean, I guess.

Doesn't really seem like a strong reason.
It's just that lots of people rail about a certain notorious kiss at Jean's grave, but now it's ok for Jean to hook up with T'Challa? Or Kurt?

I'm trying to understand.

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Anyway, the real point is: I don't get Jean x Cap.

It mystifies me.
I can only attribute it to a shallow understanding of Scott - this desire to hook Jean up with 'classic' Scott.

"shrug", i think that they just want another relationship for her and that's it, is not the worse that i had seen anyway, if i had to choose i would pair her with Warren, he always seemed like a nice choice.

[Havok83]

I mean, I guess.

Doesn't really seem like a strong reason.
It's just that lots of people rail about a certain notorious kiss at Jean's grave, but now it's ok for Jean to hook up with T'Challa? Or Kurt?

I'm trying to understand.

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Anyway, the real point is: I don't get Jean x Cap.

It mystifies me.
I can only attribute it to a shallow understanding of Scott - this desire to hook Jean up with 'classic' Scott.

I dont see how Jean hooking up with anyone now years after her marriage is over and at least a year and a half since Scott's been dead. Scott making out with Emma, the woman he had an affair with over Jean's grave moments after burying her was in incredibly poor taste no matter how anyone slices it. Jean kissing someone in the future isnt even in the same category

[Striderblack01]

I dont see how Jean hooking up with anyone now years after her marriage is over and at least a year and a half since Scott's been dead. Scott making out with Emma, the woman he had an affair with over Jean's grave moments after burying her was in incredibly poor taste no matter how anyone slices it. Jean kissing someone in the future isnt even in the same category

Yeah, it wasn't a great moment.
But, didn't Jean have a hand in that?

(it's been a while)

[phoenixzero23]

We have the rectangle thread for this stuff