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I agree with the last bit, but any real reference to her religion prior to her ressurection to speak on any of those issues should have really been done. Or even after as she gets the second set of (rather awful) knuckle tattoos. I will agree with you that this is poor writing—but poor writing can (and imo does) lead to character assassination here for kitty, because of all these issues.
She can, she just never has before in any other book. Ever. In her fourty+ years of history. And she's been over 14 for the vast majority of that time. At what point do you agree it is just out of character? Or do you believe anything written and thusly canon is impirically in character?
Seems a little rude but whatever, see above for why it is completely out of character. (Not the woman specifically part, but that she is doing that at all—it was cringy the first time too)
But some of those people have had their histories brought up.
Excalibur 1 addressed in general Betsy's aversion to ever speaking to Kwannon and fallen angels heavily went into kwannon's identity relating to betsy and her prior life with the hand. I hope you are right, but I am not so sure it will be for those that aren't, given how it seems to be up to the writers to do so, and they.. aren't, largely. Fallen angels did many things wrong but at least it addressed that.
I've given him time enough imo to fix the flaws of his writing. Character assassination is a form of bad writing, most would agree. I happen to think both are taking place, because he is completely changing her character without lead up or proper explanation. Never before have Emma and Kitty been anything close to best friends (much less close friends) since before this book, and that is as much because of their history and Emma's original intent to kidnap her as it was their personalities. Until now.
People have talked about Emma's history as a villain and while I personally have no problems with her being on the council, I do have an issue with people saying she has grown or evolved past her history. Ressurecting Shaw and beginning the hellfire club and bringing back that aspect of her past directly shows how she hasnt evolved past it, seeing as how Shaw has now killed Kitty and her little games have harmed others—none of that points to her growing or evolving. It actually looks a lot like Emma up to things she should be past but isn't for whatever reason. And the fact that Kitty of all people isn't calling her out on it is mind boggling. Especially if you want to say that Emma and Kitty are friends–"you want to work with and elevate your abuser to a council position? The guy who had you convinced kidnapping me was the right thing to do?" Is an obvious conversation that never happened. And won't.
I implied nothing of the sort, but since you are taking away such assumptions, let me be clear: there is nothing inherently wrong with that sort of behavior (though some on this very forum decried piotr kissing kitty at random in Age of X-man when they didn't have their full memories of one another and were gleefully happy about kitty kissing a random woman in marauders) as long as there are no issues with consent (which hasn't been implied thus far). The issue is that it isnt something *Kitty* (or Kate, though Kitty has been headmistress without a need for a name change and been to the white house as Kitty, so the name change itself is just another nonsense choice by Duggan to differentiate his version from others and make his mark.. poorly, on the character) would ever do. Because she has never done it.
And of all the characters to be taking part in the revelry, kitty is one of the ones it makes the least sense to do any such thing because of, seeing as how she is on a ship away from party island and both kissing incidents were with non mutants, away from the island. The party atmosphere doesn't exactly travel worldwide.
There definitely are people who have expressed a shipping interest in the two, but hey, one thing to agree on if you also feel that is a crazy ship.
Just maybe try less to insult whatever morals you assume I have because we disagree about characterization in the future, because it's completely unnecessary.