Your Unpopular/Controversial Opinions on the X-Universe

[Chris0013]

Another absolutely ridiculous thing I'll never understand that should be done away with is 40 foot tall sentinels.I find it absurrd for giant machines to be sent to kill or capture tiny people.This has to stop you want menacing sentinels make them 8-9 feet tall like in the DoFP movie,that is realistic they can enter buildings ,limit human collateral.Plus it is more engaging seeing say 10 X-Men battle four or five sentinels than
7 X men battling just the one.I never got how this is still a thing.Also I prefer human looking Bastion who looked incredibly menacing than a pink Nimrod that has been done to death.Time for a change in sentinel look

What's funny is that the original sentinels were only about 9 feet tall or so. I differ from you in that I think the 40 ft behemoths have their place, but I agree that it shouldn't be every place.

Considering the number of times Sentinels have gone rogue...you would think someone would have said "let's knock off the 20 foot tall robots and make man sized, human piloted suits like Iron Man."

[Zelena]

Considering the number of times Sentinels have gone rogue...you would think someone would have said "let's knock off the 20 foot tall robots and make man sized, human piloted suits like Iron Man."

How could you limit collateral damage with supersized monsters? They are like "bulls in a china shop"… Even humans would fear them.

[Havok83]

Considering the number of times Sentinels have gone rogue...you would think someone would have said "let's knock off the 20 foot tall robots and make man sized, human piloted suits like Iron Man."

There are man sized sentinels

[Chris0013]

There are man sized sentinels

Like the Primes...who are cyborgs who have had their free will taken away. My point is that they need piloted suits with people with free will who can determine what is going on in a situation and act accordingly...not "mutant detected...eliminate mutant."

[Rev9]

that reminds me of this

Yes I remember that from X-Men Gold,they were absolutely correct making the sentinel a full human sized nano particles construct.I would like a similar approach under Hickman.I didn't really like the Nimrod the lesser design in powers of X but he was still better than the other Nimrod designs of the past.I would prefer a more human like face and maybe a bit more like iceman's features in his ice form.With a leaner body .I don't like the really bulky look.I mean he could have different modes a more muscular battle mode,a stealthy leaner infiltration mode, a harmless human look .just fit him like a Swiss army knife with configurations that are applied as per mission.I hope Hickman gets him right.I was actually hoping that it is revealed in life 9 after defeating solar system mutants.The children of the Vault come out of the city/vault and destroy the machines and are lords of the star system.Using the famed ghost boxes it would be cool if they reprogram and upgrade Nimrod into a new black look like the furies in the Xenogenesis storyline(chasing a fugitive in jungles of Africa) just leaner and send him to destroy the X-Men in life 10.Anyway I really hope the sentinels are improved.

[Rev9]

Av just remembered another really disappointing thing I cannot get over was the horrible art done for the AvX saga in 2012.Good lord I think only Olivier Coipiel's intro book was good.For such a momentous event they really let the fans down by choosing lousy artists.Which is strange because by then Clay Mann had just wowed with Age of X storyline,Greg Land had done work on Uncanny X-Men.Clayton Crain is a master of dark stoeylines but he wasnt given duties.So many good artists could have done a stellar job instead it was horrendous rendering of what was a good story.I still can't fathom how horrible the art was

[spirit2011]

Av just remembered another really disappointing thing I cannot get over was the horrible art done for the AvX saga in 2012.Good lord I think only Olivier Coipiel's intro book was good.For such a momentous event they really let the fans down by choosing lousy artists.Which is strange because by then Clay Mann had just wowed with Age of X storyline,Greg Land had done work on Uncanny X-Men.Clayton Crain is a master of dark stoeylines but he wasnt given duties.So many good artists could have done a stellar job instead it was horrendous rendering of what was a good story.I still can't fathom how horrible the art was

Greg land a good artist? he is a tracer.

[Rev9]

Greg land a good artist? he is a tracer.

Honestly I'd rather him on art in that book, than what we got.I didnt say he was the best, so many artists could have done better.Will Conrad, Mike Choi, Carlos Pacheco,Paco Medina many others .The guy they got on pencils ,John Romita-I beleive it was, was beyond horrible! Like I mean you got from Clay Mann on Age of X(the year before) or Magneto Not a Hero(in the same year) to that?? SMH

[Rev9]

Considering the number of times Sentinels have gone rogue...you would think someone would have said "let's knock off the 20 foot tall robots and make man sized, human piloted suits like Iron Man."

Absolutely true,I also dont get why they dont just make them basically Iron man like piloted suits with MRD personnel in them.Though I know why it's coz the x-men are depicted as the good guys , they cannot afford to lose face stomping sentinels with humans in them.It's bad PR. I say Hickman is in a new era with poltics, leverage, blackmail and Krakoa CIA all in play so to hell with that stuff. If they still fear that perceptions all they have to do is make them remote controlled by personel in some bunker somewhere , while they simply count their losses like fighter pilots, '6 bogeys... taking hits from 6 o'clock ..unit 109 is down' simple as

[Sutekh]

How could you limit collateral damage with supersized monsters? They are like "bulls in a china shop"… Even humans would fear them.

I would posit that the people who designed Sentinels didn't really care all that much about 'protecting humans' for all their rhetoric. Like most supremacists, they seem perfectly willing to kill not only 'the other,' but also of their own kind that don't board the hate-train with them. The Sentinels have exactly zero defensive or protective utility, it seems, and if they are feared, even by normal humans, that's a feature, not a bug, since the designers want humans to live in fear, and to blame mutants for that fear, and, by their logic, these scary giant robots wouldn't be around if not for mutants...

[Metal Sphere]

I would posit that the people who designed Sentinels didn't really care all that much about 'protecting humans' for all their rhetoric. Like most supremacists, they seem perfectly willing to kill not only 'the other,' but also of their own kind that don't board the hate-train with them. The Sentinels have exactly zero defensive or protective utility, it seems, and if they are feared, even by normal humans, that's a feature, not a bug, since the designers want humans to live in fear, and to blame mutants for that fear, and, by their logic, these scary giant robots wouldn't be around if not for mutants...

Bingo, the Sentinels are looming symbols of fear. To mutants they represent oppression, suffering, and extinction. And as you said, to humans they indicate to them that their world is dangerous and should be fearful in response. For the story the X-Men brand is telling, their size makes sense. I do think Rev9's idea of having piloted Sentinels should be more common (both the giant and Iron Man suit types). Why? Because that'd be another piece of propaganda the hateful could use ("Rise up to protect your people!" and "Save Humanity" type of rhetoric, for example). Another wrinkle in the narrative, another challenge for our heroes to overcome.

[Rosebunse]

So...I like Greg Land's art. Yes, it's traced from pornos, but I like it. As long as he isn't on an X-Men book, it's fine.

The X-Men are problematic for him because of the sheer nunber of women you have to include. Then you really notice the tracing.

[Zelena]

So...I like Greg Land's art. Yes, it's traced from pornos, but I like it. As long as he isn't on an X-Men book, it's fine.

The X-Men are problematic for him because of the sheer nunber of women you have to include. Then you really notice the tracing.

Alas, you also notice the tracing on men… Alex, by Greg Land, makes me think of an actor from "Young and Restless"… It's annoying.

[Rosebunse]

Alas, you also notice the tracing on men… Alex, by Greg Land, makes me think of an actor from "Young and Restless"… It's annoying.

You mean he uses references that don't come from porn?

[Zelena]

You mean he uses references that don't come from porn?

Why porn should be his only source?
It's logical that, as a straight man, he is less tempted to read porn starring men, I think…