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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoop Dogg View Post
    we cannot tolerate this slander of the best marvel cosmic event
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    Chancellor Araki didn't die for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    Now I want a Chimera that is Vulcan, Ink, Mikhail, and Adam-X The EXTREME!!!!!!. It might just be the most hated fictional being since Kirito.
    You need to add in Hope and Fantomex for ultimate hateability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    You need to add in Hope and Fantomex for ultimate hateability.
    The Hope hate is... alien to me but I get it. But why do people hate Fantomex? For being an annoying French moron?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    You need to add in Hope and Fantomex for ultimate hateability.
    I don't mind Fantomex in doses but Hope has absolutely no reason to exist and never did, even when Jean was still worm food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    The Hope hate is... alien to me but I get it. But why do people hate Fantomex? For being an annoying French moron?
    I rather liked him, honestly. . .

    What I gather from the boards is he was.... 1."Gary Stu" 2. Stolen from some the french thief "danger diabolik" and I vaguely remember someone complaining that he steps on
    gambits toes.

    Ultimately... who know why the people on this board hate/or love anything.

    I'd never knew storm was popular to the extent the stormfans project her... so yeah. People love wolverine everywhere... except here. Its an odd microcosm. Believe nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight_v View Post
    I rather liked him, honestly. . .

    What I gather from the boards is he was.... 1."Gary Stu" 2. Stolen from some the french thief "danger diabolik" and I vaguely remember someone complaining that he steps on
    gambits toes.

    Ultimately... who know why the people on this board hate/or love anything.

    I'd never knew storm was popular to the extent the stormfans project her... so yeah. People love wolverine everywhere... except here. Its an odd microcosm. Believe nothing.
    I have a theory for the latter and that is that there are many Wolverine fans who really don't care much about the X-Men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    I have a theory for the latter and that is that there are many Wolverine fans who really don't care much about the X-Men.
    I don't think it's so much that and more the fact that most Wolverine fans, particularly after the movies, are casual X-men fans, while the fans of every other character (except maybe Magneto) are die-hard ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    The Hope hate is... alien to me but I get it. But why do people hate Fantomex? For being an annoying French moron?
    I thought Fantomelle from the Wolverines series was a much more interesting character.
    Still hoping for that Helix Reunion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    I have a theory for the latter and that is that there are many Wolverine fans who really don't care much about the X-Men.
    There isn't "Too many" there's just the amount that there is.

    The general visceral appeal of him just reaches more people that... some of the other x-people. He's the aspirational cowboy archetype and a few other things.

    But yes... there was a time in which wolverine transcended the X-men and thenn there's things like "Wolverine and the X-men".

    I notice there's a backlash against his appeal here that isn't in other places.

    Example:
    A. Alex Ross doesn't' like Wolverine because his popularity (along with a few others) kinda drug us into the 90's era "EXTREME!" books.
    B. Person on the boards "Seem to think" if not for Wolverine *shakes fist* "Storm/Cyclops/Iceman/My favorite would have that popularity!!!"

    "B" is... a stretch, while A. Might be a thing if you lived through that era.


    But I came back to say.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    The Hope hate is... alien to me but I get it. But why do people hate Fantomex? For being an annoying French moron?
    He's not even French, though - he fakes the accent because he thinks it makes him sound cooler. Spurrier's take on him in X-Force is really the only time I've actually liked him since he joined up with the X-Men around Dark Reign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    The Hope hate is... alien to me but I get it. But why do people hate Fantomex? For being an annoying French moron?
    For me, Hope's existence was one of the factors that delayed Jean's resurrection but she was well used during her spotlight in pre-AvX era.

    FantomeX had some good stories but most of his appearances after Remender were bullocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    For me, Hope's existence was one of the factors that delayed Jean's resurrection but she was well used during her spotlight in pre-AvX era.
    Wasn’t Hope supposed to BE a reincarnation of Jean? Gah redheads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight_v View Post
    B. Person on the boards "Seem to think" if not for Wolverine *shakes fist* "Storm/Cyclops/Iceman/My favorite would have that popularity!!!"
    I think it is something like this. Which is weird because it is the market who likes him, putting other character on his place would probably end in a lot of canceled books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRaymond View Post
    Wasn’t Hope supposed to BE a reincarnation of Jean? Gah redheads.
    I'm not sure, but it was certainly the angle they implicitly leaned on. "Red Hair, Could Be Jean" and "Plucky Youth for Cable" are basically her only identifiable traits. And with Jean back she has no reason to be around, which is why she began fading out as early as the O5 stuff. (Also, Jean on her most boring day still has waayyyyy more going for her) Even then they had to prod the books to still remember she existed. She's a somewhat more promoted Joseph now AFAIC.

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