Your Unpopular/Controversial Opinions on the X-Universe

[Rosebunse]

Hum, maybe?
I wonder… is it possible that Marvel, knowing that X-men readers are now older, they give them new heroes that show them what it's possible to be done, even old?

That would be nice! Especially if they aged up some of the characters, just a little.

Also, when it comes to Jean, Emma, and Scott, it isn't that the first two need Scott to be interesting, it's that Scott needs Emma and Jean to be interesting.

[Vegan Daddy]

Maddie is far more interesting than Jean.

[CRaymond]

Maddie is far more interesting than Jean.

Go on.

Please.

[Rosebunse]

Emma is best.

[pkingdom]

Maddie is far more interesting than Jean.

I did a deep dive on Madelyne Pryor earlier this week. That poor, poor woman.

[Rosebunse]

I did a deep dive on Madelyne Pryor earlier this week. That poor, poor woman.

Seriously, Scott is a garbage person and Jean is awful for going along with it.

[jmc247]

Polaris is recognizable to more casual audiences. You don’t have to be from the O5/ANAD to be a sales draw.

Agree.

But, she has two things going against her. Marvel doesn't bet on her success enough to treat her as a major x-character and when they don't the comic shops don't and set their orders accordingly. Second Marvel can't agree to a base characterization for her. Their nostalgic era version of Lorna was basically a lite version of Jean which they prefer because that was what they grew up with. But, Lorna became popular under a very different characterization, pathos and worldview then the old guard sees her as. Her 80s/90s characterization was never popular and there is no way editors who see her as that can make it popular.

[spirit2011]

Seriously, Scott is a garbage person and Jean is awful for going along with it.

Jean didn't went along with it, Scott left his wife and kid to play superhero. Jean said to him return to Maddie

[SiegePerilous02]

Scott, Jean and Emma are all great and don't deserve some of the hate they get from bad writing.

The first few issues of X-Factor and the fallout we feel from them to this day are still godawful, but Scott and Maddie's marriage was a creepy fraud before Jean even came back and would have self destructed no matter what. The clone retcon and becoming the Goblyn Queen made her a vastly more interesting character...as long as Claremont himself was writing it and she was still sympathetic.

I'm excited for her return as long as Wells writes her along those lines, less so Simonson's take. And whatever nonsense happened between Inferno and now.

[TheDeadSpace]

Scott, Jean and Emma are all great and don't deserve some of the hate they get from bad writing.

The first few issues of X-Factor and the fallout we feel from them to this day are still godawful, but Scott and Maddie's marriage was a creepy fraud before Jean even came back and would have self destructed no matter what. The clone retcon and becoming the Goblyn Queen made her a vastly more interesting character...as long as Claremont himself was writing it and she was still sympathetic.

I'm excited for her return as long as Wells writes her along those lines, less so Simonson's take. And whatever nonsense happened between Inferno and now.

I agree completely.

[Rosebunse]

Jean didn't went along with it, Scott left his wife and kid to play superhero. Jean said to him return to Maddie

She still got with him and basically replaced Maddie. It was creepy.

[spirit2011]

She still got with him and basically replaced Maddie. It was creepy.

Maddie herself was a Jean replacement

[Rosebunse]

Maddie herself was a Jean replacement

Yeah, which was creepy, but what really creeps me out is how Jean doesn't just get back with Scott, but also replaces Maddie as little Nathan's mother. Now, nothing wrong with stepmothers and adoption and all that, but the takeover was just too complete and just...creepy. It was like Maddie never existed while Scott and Jean just went about their lives with their baby.

[spirit2011]

Yeah, which was creepy, but what really creeps me out is how Jean doesn't just get back with Scott, but also replaces Maddie as little Nathan's mother. Now, nothing wrong with stepmothers and adoption and all that, but the takeover was just too complete and just...creepy. It was like Maddie never existed while Scott and Jean just went about their lives with their baby.

They should just have gone with the Maddie is Jean without memories

[Black Queen]

Maddie is far more interesting than Jean.

SOooooooooooooooo Salty