Your Unpopular/Controversial Opinions on the X-Universe

[PsychoEFrost]

marvel/disney was trying to make xmen suck so they'd be worth less to fox (conspiracy theory long ago proven as fact)

Plus they wanted to push the Inhumans Netflix series until it bombed hard.

[Gambit, King of Thieves]

Storm is incredibly overrated and extremely boring.

[PsychoEFrost]

Storm is incredibly overrated and extremely boring.

Well, this thread was nice while it lasted. So long, and thanks for all the fish!

Pray you survive what comes next...

[Disciple of Redd]

Storm is incredibly overrated and extremely boring.

That's how I'd describe Cyclops. Storm just hasn't had anyone willing to give her a plot in decades.

[Hizashi]

That's how I'd describe Cyclops. Storm just hasn't had anyone willing to give her a plot in decades.

I disagree that the characterization applies to either character, but I agree with you that Storm has been underutilized. Unfortunately, she got saddled with the garage IvX/Terrigen Crisis narrative.

[Killerbee911]

That's how I'd describe Cyclops. Storm just hasn't had anyone willing to give her a plot in decades.

No Cyclops was like that early imo, Then mutant revolution Cyclops gave him a lot depth and Cyclops not being mutant revolution mode and all the interactions he would have others would have been interesting as well if they kept him alive

[Disciple of Redd]

No Cyclops was like that early imo, Then mutant revolution Cyclops gave him a lot depth and Cyclops not being mutant revolution mode and all the interactions he would have others would have been interesting as well if they kept him alive

All this really means is "they focused on him alot and had him do an edgy like once". He was just as uninteresting in the "edgy and cool" era except they killed off multiple characters and centered every major thread around him to draw reactions to him.

They don't need to do that with Storm, but just give us moments ever so often that remind us that she is actually quite the warrior.

The soft, unconfident weepiness of Lemire's Storm was so lame. The terrigen plot could have been interesting as a vehicle for her, had Lemire played it that way.

Who the heck writes a hero character with literally no moment of triumph ever? I'm still somewhat puzzled about it.

[Carabas]

Plus they wanted to push the Inhumans Netflix series until it bombed hard.

Marvel Studios wanted the Inhumans GONE. And they had Disney pull strings to make the guy pushing the Inhumans go away (or at least completely remove his influence over the movies).

Also, Inhumans wasn't on Netflix. It was on regular tv.

[Hall]

I did not find Cable's back story as confusing and convoluted as everyone made it out to be.

[Hall]

marvel/disney was trying to make xmen suck so they'd be worth less to fox (conspiracy theory long ago proven as fact)

Long proven as fact indeed and also it backfired because X-Men during the time went on to release probably the best comic films artistically and financially. Logan, DOFP, Deadpool. A big deal for comic movies outside of the Disney family friendly narrative.

[Uncanny X-Man]

I did not find Cable's back story as confusing and convoluted as everyone made it out to be.

Agreed. One only needs to read The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix and Askani'Son and it's all laid out there.

[TheCape]

I found Wolverine's X-Force far more entertaining that any Cable lead X-Force, even when that is his baby.

[Hall]

Agreed. One only needs to read The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix and Askani'Son and it's all laid out there.

Why did people also think Cable was Nate Grey from an alternate timeline because Nate is a genetic child of Scott and Jean? Many parents have more than one kids, we don't go around saying they are all the same. Lordy even this dude on youtube did not even get it right and his videos are pretty accurate.


Cable and Nate are brothers, possibly twins. They are not one and the same.

[Striderblack01]

All this really means is "they focused on him alot and had him do an edgy like once". He was just as uninteresting in the "edgy and cool" era except they killed off multiple characters and centered every major thread around him to draw reactions to him.

They don't need to do that with Storm, but just give us moments ever so often that remind us that she is actually quite the warrior.

The soft, unconfident weepiness of Lemire's Storm was so lame. The terrigen plot could have been interesting as a vehicle for her, had Lemire played it that way.

Who the heck writes a hero character with literally no moment of triumph ever? I'm still somewhat puzzled about it.

For my money, Scott wasn't 'edgy' for a while.
The characterization was more of a "heavy is the head that wears the crown" type - he was making tough choices in terrible situations for very understandable reasons.

He didn't get "edgy" until the mutant revolution shtick.
To me, that stuff just came off as a very public and dangerous mid-life crisis.

I think Storm is boring because of her fans.
They're pretty toxic and won't accept any characterization that doesn't treat her as some kind of all-powerful reincarnation of Gaia, the mother spirit of the Universe.
And if you disagree with them, it's because you're obviously a racist sexist monster.

Praise be!!

<yawn>

[Carabas]

I think Storm is boring because of her fans.
They're pretty toxic and won't accept any characterization that doesn't treat her as some kind of all-powerful reincarnation of Gaia, the mother spirit of the Universe.
And if you disagree with them, it's because you're obviously a racist sexist monster.

You're not wrong.

It's become almost impossible to talk about Storm here.