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    From the old forum 'Create your own merged Marvel Universe' I think would be fun to see how one small change can make an universe totally different, from a radioactive spider biting a different person to a personality difference. So here create an alternate universe or hundreds of universes if you like.

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    I'm starting with a universe that I kinda went back to multiple times with, Earth-2181991

    So here is the Members and Villains of Earth-2181991's Avengers and Ultimates.


    Avengers:
    Captain America: a soldier who awakens from a frozen coma turns into a street level vigilante who fights the war on crime instead of the Punisher.

    Wasp: A fashion mogul/designer who blackmails a scientist (Pym), her family was funding, into letting her have some of his inventions so she could play super hero.

    Hulk: An assistant to the head scientist (Samuel Sterns) on gamma radiation gets expose to the stuff after preventing his boss from testing it on teenagers.

    Thor: An Asgardian (son of Odin and Gaea) comes to Mortal Earth to stop his half brother Loki (son of Ymir and Gaea) from corrupting it.

    Iron Man: A weapons maker finds out that his inventions are being use by a terrorist organization (AIM) and decides to stop them.

    Villains:
    Captain America: Hate-Monger, Crossbones/Skeleton Crew, Barracuda, Dellbert Ruskman, Falcon, The Holy, Ma Gnucci Family, Batroc the Leaper, The Watchdogs, Dr. Faustus, Silvermane Family

    Iron Man: Iron Monger, Justin Hammer/Dreadnoughts, Technovore, Maggia/Nefaria Family (Count Nefaria, Madame Masque, Grim Reaper, Whiplash, Blizzard, Unicorn, Eel), Wonder Man, Crimson Dynamo, Sunset Bain, The Ghost, Machinesmith, Fixer

    Thor: Mandarin, Wrecking Crew, Loki, Daimon Hellstorm, Crusader, Tyrannus, Amora, Executioner, N'Garai, Maggia/Hood Family (The Hood, Master Pandemonium, Shatterfist, Decay, Tempest, Inferno, Conquest), Fin Fang Foom

    Hulk: Leader, Hulkbusters, Abomination, Red Hulk, Grey Hulk, Jackal, Nuke, Hybrid (Diana), Mole Man, Maggia/Purple Family (Purple Man, Atlas, Living Laser, Man Beast, Armadillo, Nitro)

    Wasp: Whirlwind, Ringmaster/Circus of Crime, Moonstone, Crimson Cowl (Greer Grant), Egghead, Yellowjacket (Rita Demara), Volcana, Titania, Absorbing Man, Molecule Man, Trapster, Hypno-Hustler

    Avengers: Graviton, Ultron, Masters of Evil (Loki, Technovore, Barracuda, Abomination and Moonstone), Thunderbolts (Dellbert Ruskman, Falcon, Wonder Man, Red Hulk, Daimon Hellstorm, and Crimson Cowl), Controller, Madman, random team up of villains


    Ultimates:
    Nick Fury: A veteran SHIELD agent decides to create a team of super heroes to battle the big threat of the super terrorists (HYDRA, AIM, Zodiac, Claw).

    Hawkeye: Joins SHIELD after finding out his brother is a spy for HYDRA.

    Black Widow: Joins SHIELD after finding out her mentor (Yelena Belova) sold out AIM/communism and joined HYDRA.

    War Machine: After saving a super smart billionaire (Iron Man) from AIM, he is gifted a powerful suit of his own and decides to use it to help out SHIELD.

    Shang-Chi: Joins the team after finding out his father (Zheng Zu) is trying to take over the world with his own army (Claw).

    Wolverine (Logan Howlett): Joins the team for a favor of Nick Fury, who saved his life after being experimented on.

    Valkyrie: Archaeologist Barbara Norris finds a strange looking sword during her trips, after touching it she discovers shes has the memories of a fallen female warrior and can transform into that warrior.

    Spider-Man (Jason Drew): Same story as his 616 counterpart Jessica Drew.

    Villains:
    HYDRA (Madam HYDRA (Valentina Allegra de Fontaine), Titanium Man (Baron Strucker), Baron Zemo, Arnim Zola, Yelana Belova, Taskmaster, Gorgon, Trickshot),
    AIM (MODOK, Monica Rappaccini, Omega Red, Super-Adaptoid, Chameleon, Red Ghost, Crossfire),
    Zodiac (Scorpio (Max Fury), Taurus (Man-Bull), Gemini (Romulus and Remus) Sagittarius (Moon Knight), Pisces (Naga)),
    Claw (Zheng Zu, Lord Darkwind, Lord Deathstrike, Lady Deathstrike, Reavers, Jade Dragon, Collective Man. Snapdragon),
    Serpent Society (Seth/Set, Viper, Sidewinder, Anaconda, Asp, Black Mamba, Black Racer, Bushmaster, Copperhead, Cottonmouth, King Cobra, Death Adder, Puff Adder, Rattler, Rock Python. Diamondback, Princess Python)
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    AU where the best known heroes died before becoming well known heroes. Steve Rogers dies instead of being frozen, Tony Stark dies in Afghanistan, Bruce Banner dies when the bomb goes off, Thor never comes to Midgard.

    Instead, the second stringers and later members are the ones who become founding Avengers -- Hank and Jan are the only founding Avengers who are founding Avengers. It would be interesting to see the routes the other characters take instead -- does Black Widow become a hero when she discovers that she's lived a pile of fake lives? Does Hawkeye become a hero by stopping an attempted robbery at the circus where he was living and working? What about Pietro and Wanda?

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    AU where, instead of mutants, radiation activates dormant genes denoting Deviant ancestry. Superhuman powers are possible but usually at the cost of some ridiculous deformity, like having treebark for skin or a deformed face to go along with your wings.

    Charles Xavier does research when his powers kick in, he finds out about the Deviants and steals their technology to build a sanctuary for his students. Meanwhile Magneto builds a force of folks to fight against the world that doesn't acknowledge the beauty of his gifts.

    The arrival of super heroes also coincides with the rise of the Eternals, who reveal themselves as superbeings who want to help make a better world. Magneto's Brotherhood has a lot of ideological grief with them.

    Apocalypse meanwhile is completely devoted to the idea of reshaping Deviants so that they can "pass" for Eternals and beat them at their own game.

    Into this stew of conflicting ideologies steps the X-Men, Xavier's somewhat-freakish students, who are trying to bring people together..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutant God View Post
    From the old forum 'Create your own merged Marvel Universe' I think would be fun to see how one small change can make an universe totally different, from a radioactive spider biting a different person to a personality difference. So here create an alternate universe or hundreds of universes if you like.
    I think the appropriate Marvel term for this is What If?, and yes, this is a fun game.

    What If The Fantastic Four Were Hated and Feared?: In this alternate universe, Reed's PR ploy to turn his found family of freakified friends into public heroes did not succeed, and the Fantastic Four were hunted by the authorities as dangerous fugitives once they escaped from military custody, with this forming the basis for public attitudes towards 'accidental' superhumans, such that most are hated, feared, and treated no better and sometimes even worse than mutants.

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    Earth-2181991

    Continuing on with this universe, the Members and Villains of Fantastic Four, Defenders, and Immortal Weapons.

    Fantastic Four:
    Dr. Fantastic: Victor Von Doom leads his former college roommates, Ben Grimm and Johnny Storm, and Johnny's younger sister Sue, on a trip into outer space where they get into an accident and obtain super powers. After a year or two of being a hero Victor keeps secrets from the group and government about his projects, when told to tell them Victor tries to take over the city but was defeated with the help of a teenage genius (Reed Richards).

    Thing: Same as 616

    Human Torch: Older but pretty much same

    Invisible Woman: Same but has a crush on her older brother's friend Ben

    Mr. Fantastic: Former boy adventurer Reed Richards decides to get away from his home after many years of home schooling by his super scientist father Nathaniel Richards. After seeing Doom's attempt to take over Reed helps take down Doom's power source but unfortunately gets hit and was giving powers. After Ben and Sue persuade Reed to join the team Johnny decides to give the teen his super name because it would anger Victor so much.

    H.E.R.B.I.E.: Reed's pet robot who was given to him, by his father, because real animals are messy and robots are easier to control.

    Villains:
    Skrulls, Kree, The Brood, Annihilus/Arthrosians, Blastaar, Frightful Four (Mad Maximus, Psycho Man, Diablo, and Dragon Man), Magus/Technarchy, Ego The Living Planet, Kang the Conqueror, U-Foes (Vector, Ironclad, Vapor and X-Ray), Puppet Master, Calypso, Wizard


    Defenders: a team of European and Otherworld (which replaces Earth as one of the Nine realms) heroes

    Dr. Strange: same as his 616 counterpart except lives in Europe
    Blade: British vampire hunter
    Hercules: Lives on Mt Olympus in Otherworld but likes helping humans on Earth.
    Namor: Many Centuries ago an Atlantean prince touch a mystical item (Time Gem) and was transported to the modern day where he was helped out by Dr. Strange and Fantasic Four.
    Captain Britain: James Braddock Jr. fights crime with the Sword of Might and the Amulet of Right.

    Villains:
    Captain Britain: Morgan le Fay, Mordred, Black Knight, Dreadknight, Roughouse, Slaymaster, The Fury, Doctor Synne, Mr. Hyde

    Dr Strange: Belasco, Umar, Baron Mondo, Marquis of Death, Doctor Druid, Nightmare, The Adversary

    Hercules: Ares, Typhon, Mad Thinker/Awesome Andy, Deathwatch, Hurricane, Machine Man, Gin Goh, Grey Gargoyle

    Namor: Attuma, Krang, Commander Kraken, Black Tarantula, Darkoth, Tiger Shark, Brothers Grimm

    Blade: Deacon Frost, Sheba Sugarfangs, Baron Blood (Kenneth Crichton), Morbius/Martine Bancroft, Purebloods, Varnae, Bloodscream

    Defenders: Dormammu, Dracula, Lethal Legion (Baron Mondo, Baron Blood, Black Knight, Commander Kraken, Mad Thinker), Thankorr, Cthon, Dr Doom, Baba Yaga, Offenders (Deathwatch, Black Tarantula, Bloodscream, Roughouse, Brothers Grimm), Juggernaut

    Immortal Weapons: Heroes who defend Asia

    Iron Fist,
    Death Sting (Heather Douglas) - Daughter of The Destroyer, a volent martial artist who seeks power, Heather's mother wanted her daughter to be safe while they were being chased so she left Heather with some mystical monks in Undercity who raised and taught Heather how to fight and channel her energy.
    Prince of Orphans,
    Fat Cobra,
    Bride of Nine Spiders,
    Steel Serpant,
    Psylocke - Trained to not only use powers but to also wield and use the Crimson Dawn and protect it from her psychotic twin brother Brian

    Villains: The Destroyer (Arthur Douglas), Silver Samurai/Yashida Clan, Gold Spider (Brian Braddock), Prince Baran, Tyger Tiger, Master Khan, Hand, Claw

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    Earth-2181991

    Members and Villains of X-Men

    X-Men:*
    Charles Xavier: As a mutant child who was sheltered and bullied by his mutant twin sister Cassandra, Charles was fascinated by not only by mutant genes but also philosophy and meeting other mutants. After attending many years of college he goes to Africa to do a study but gets weird thoughts coming from far away in a mysterious island called Genosha where he learns there is special hospital for "gifted" children. After discovering the true purpose of the hospital, experimenting on mutants and defeating the doctor who goes by the name Dr. Sinister, his assistant Astra, and his security force, the Marauders, Charles takes some the "patients" to America and gets permission from the government to open a school for mutants and to study the X gene.
    Storm: Princess of the Wakanda Mountain clan, home of the white apes. After her father was mysteriously killed her uncle, Amahl Farouk (Shadow King), took the throne and married her mother. When Charles Xavier past threw, on his way to Genosha, Amahl started a psychic battle with Xavier, declaring him a threat. Amahl's true colors were shown when he tried to use Ororo's mother as a shield and she died. After Xavier ends up sending Farouk into the Astral Plane Ororo decides to give the mountain clan land to the Panther clan and help Xavier with his journey, who became paralyzed during the battle. She also suggested for Xavier to shave his head because thats what made Amahl so strong.
    Cyclops: After losing his family thanks to the terrorist organization known as HYDRA, Scott was taken to Genosha. Seeing some of the fellow patients was scared he decided to become a leader among them.
    Jean Grey/Phoenix: When her power was activated, she was taken to Genosha where she was experimented upon and push to her limits and making her a dangerous threat. With powerful telepathy, telekinesis, and cosmic pyrokinesis, Xavier decided to put mental blocks and limited her power.
    Iceman: one of the patients
    Beast: Another patient who was experimented upon and began a feral transformation.
    Angel: A patient who Sinister had big plans for but was stopped by Xavier.
    Gambit: A young theif who was forced by the Marauders into helping them kidnapped some patients. After being attacked by the Maruders, he was founded by Xavier and Storm, after thanking them he decides to help them by breaking them into the hospital.
    Banshee: A cop who was taken into the* hospital by his cousin Black Tom, a Marauder.

    Villains:
    Brotherhood: Patients who didn't want to go with Xavier and decided to stay on Genosha to find Sinister and his other projects.
    Magneto: Met Sinister as a child, among Sinister's first mutant patients. Helped Sinister build his devices and hospital only to find out Sinister's true purpose and was inprison.
    Avalanche: one of the patients
    Blob: another patient
    Pyro: another patient
    Toad: A patient who was experimented upon and was transform into grotesque version of his powers
    Vanisher: another patient
    Rogue: A patient who was experiment upon and ended up a danger to others who wanted nothing to do with her. Stayed on Genosha to be with the only person who showed kindness to her, Destiny.
    Destiny: An elderly patient.

    Acolytes: Mutant extremists/terrorists
    Fabian Cortez
    Anne Marie Cortez
    Senyaka
    Exodus
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    Sinister:
    Dr Sinister: A mysterious scientist who after helping HYDRA by bonding the Super Soldier Formula to DNA, was given part of Genosha to continue his research.
    Astra: Sinister's assistant, another one of Sinister's first mutant patients
    The Marauders (Sabretooth, Mystique, Mentallo, Black Tom, Alchemy (Mikhail Rasputin))

    Anti-Mutants:
    Mutant Response Division: A goverment security froce to make sure mutants don't get too powerful, led by Bastion.
    Sentinels: Robots created by Dr Doom to keep super humans in prison but was tampered with by the Trask family to terminate mutants.
    Friends of Humanity: Mutant hating mob, led by Sabretooth's great grandson Graydon Creed.

    X-Factor: Mutant orphans who were recruited by the governement to be superheroes
    Val Cooper: Goverment agent and liasion to the team
    Havok:
    Polaris:
    Forge:
    Multiple Man:
    Boom Boom:

    U-Men: Humans who had mutant genes grafted into their DNA, giving them some powers and became mercenaries
    Dr. Killebrew: A scientist and ally of Dr Sinister and founder of the U-Men
    Deadpool: A psychotic mercenary who was given the healing powers of Sabretooth and teleportation powers of Vanisher
    Copycat: A prostitute* who was given the shapeshifting powers of Mystique
    Magnum Force: A weapons dealer who was given the powers of Avalanche and Storm
    The Isolationist: A businessman who was given the telepathy of Jean Grey and absorbing powers of Rogue
    Attending: Killebrew's enforcer who was given the powers of Beast and the precognition powers of Destiny

    Hellfire Club: A group of wealthy mutants
    White Set: White King (James Jaspers), White Queen (Emma Frost), White Bishop (Dr. Nemesis), White Rook (Pulse), White Knight (Frenzy)
    Black Set: Black King (Sebastian Shaw), Black Queen (Selene), Black Bishop (Frederick Slade), Black Rook (Mastermind), Black Knight (Mr. X)

    Azazel: Another one of Sinister's first mutant patients, obsessed with the occult, magic and cults.

    Shadow King

    Cassandra Xavier

    Apocalyspe: Time travelling mutant son of Kang
    Four Horsemen of Apocalypse: Pestilence (Living Monolith), War (Sugar Man), Famine (Genocide), and Death (Black Womb)

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    Earth-2181991

    Spider-Woman (Jessica Jones): After gettng bitten by a radioactive spider on a school field tripshe decides to become a hero but after failing to save an old man (Ben Parker), she makes a deal with the old man's nephew (Peter Parker) to have him build gadgets for her.

    Villains: Goblin Gang/Kingsley Family (Hobgoblin, Grey Goblin, Green Goblin, and Demogoblin), Sinister Six (Doc Ock, Rhino, Shocker, Mysterio, Vulture, and Harpy (Lorina Dodson)), Lizard (Harry Osborn), High Evolutionary (Norman Osborn), Enforcers (Molten Man (Vin Gonzales), Hydro-Man, Sandman, and Electro), Black Cat, Spider Queen, Scorpion, Venom, Carnage

    Sentry (Carol Danvers): After drug addict Robert Reynolds consume the serum he try to be a hero but his powers were unstable because of his drug problem, when scientist try to retain him Reynolds turn into pure energy and try to fly away but he crashes into soldier/feminist writer Carol Danvers. When Carol awoke she found out she was pregnant with the energy, after giving birth Carol retained the powers but Robert Reynolds was now black energy that called itself the Void.

    Villains: The Void, Superia, Ruby Thursday, Auntie Freeze/Femizons (Man-Killer, Knockout, Battleaxe, Poundcakes, Letha, Gladiatrix), Salem's Seven, Hijacker, Doctor Spectrum (Alice Nugent)

    Daredevil: Is blinded with magical radiation which makes his powers more mystical.

    Villains: Kingpin, Alistair Smythe/Devil Slayers, The Hand, Hand's international assassins (Elektra (Greece), Bullseye (Ireland), Typhoid Mary (Japan), Silver Sable (Serbia), Echo (Mexico), Paladin (America)), Shriek, Owl, Prowler
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    Rise of the Ant-Man Part 1

    . Henry Pym would have discovered a subatomic particle that allowed for size-changing
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    . Maria Trovayna, a fellow scientist/revolutionary cyberneticist/lover, develops a helmet that allows for communication w/ the insect community; after Henry's initial human test results in him narrowly escaping an ant-hill
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    . before Henry could provide his stealth technology research to the military, Maria is killed in an apparent terrorist attack; actually a clever and personal act of murder by a rival scientist named Elias Starr (often rejected romantic pursuer of Maria)
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    . this incident is enough to send Henry, having braved hereditary but manageable mental illness, into self-imposed exile

    . in this state, Henry creates the Ant-Man identity; combining he and his wife's research; using it to ferret out the truth of his fiancee's murder

    . there are weeks of mystery attacks on individuals and organization's already being monitored by the FBI

    . as Ant-Man, Pym finally confronts the real culprit, Elias Starr

    . during their battle Starr is accidentally exposed to seemingly lethal doses of radiation + Ant-Man leaks enough evidence to the authorities to get Starr blacklisted from the scientific community & sent to prison; if he were to survive

    . Pym retires the identity, travels the world for a bit, and is brought of seclusion by a decent job offer from Van Dyne Industries

    . at some point, his patron Vernon Van Dyne is killed under mysterious circumstances

    . Pym ends up clandestinely following Janet Van Dyne (vernon's daughter) on her mission to find the killer(s)

    . her thirst for answers & cleverness gains Pym her respect

    . he reveals himself to her, promises to aid her in finding her father's killer, and actively begins training her to be a costumed vigilante (the Wasp suit though slightly tweaked was originally worn by Maria to a costume ball)

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    Rise of the Ant-man Part 2

    . Janet, with Pym's aid, discovers the fate of her father. together, they repel the Creature from Kosmos back through the dimensional breach.

    . Pym, reluctantly, remains Ant-man out of obligation to Jan; having started her down this path & feeling responsible for the death of her father (the kosmos dimension was breached because of some experiment he and Vernon worked on)

    . they have several famous misadventures as a crime-solving duo

    . criminal mastermind Elias Starr resurfaces

    . Jan, being anything but reluctant, starts spending most of her nights investigating crimes and recklessly going after organized crime figures

    . the escalating danger level is just enough to put it in Henry's head that there's strength in numbers and that he might not always be around to "protect" Jan - hence him 1) upgrading to the Giant-Man identity and 2) quickly suggesting that the Avengers league up

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    . Pym, naturally a pacifist and more interested in "mad" science, begins feeling confined by his role in the Avengers
    . pressure mounts - the growing threats giving him little time to relax and be a good boyfriend
    . snap - Yellowjacket disclaimer: in my version of history, the slap never happened & wouldn't happen because Janet is his mental weak spot!
    . Pym takes a voluntary leave of absence - he and Jan agree to take a break on the relationship
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    . Enter Scott Lang - high school dropout - electronics prodigy - almost graduate of Taskmaster's crime academy - former star pupil of burglary 101 - winds up in prison after refusing to leave a fellow student (who he'd been sleeping w/) who had been caught by a Stark Industries security system

    . gets an education in prison - out on parole in 2 years - is, suprisingly, hired by Stark to work in his elecronics design labs

    . he lives in the basement of his sister's place - shares the place with sister and her charming but health-issued daughter Cassie

    . spends a lot of his time adjusting to being a non-criminal and teaching Cassie how to hotwire cars, bypass alarm systems, and properly utilizing the interwebs (exaggerating)

    . Cassie gets sick - Scott misguidedly tries to help out the way a criminal would - he breaks into a well guarded private warehouse that Pym has been using for side projects and storage - there he finds the ant-man equipment

    . having some high quality stealth equipment at his disposal, Scott starts casing the pharmaceutical lab that was, formerly, keeping his niece alive - he discovers something organ harvesting/illegal human testing sinister going on - he does his best to stop it; with Pym witnessing it all

    . Pym, sometimes begrudgingly, takes on a highly skilled but just as equally irresponsible new apprentice

    . Scott's criminal past catches up with him in the form of the Taskmaster and, former criminal crush, Rae (birth name Rita Demara)

    . Pym eventually does rejoins the Avengers as a reservist Giant-Man

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