Honestly, Bowers isn't that far off from real world bullies.
Honestly, Bowers isn't that far off from real world bullies.
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If I even see this film, I may end up outraged by it. The period is very important. It is supposed to have this Stand By Me feel. And they're all this sociopolitical subtext that is wrapped up in it all. The 80s have some 50s qualities, but still very different.
Much as I was disappointed by the TV film/miniseries, not that it was bad or terrible per se, sadly it will probably reign supreme as the best adaptation of It.
This movie is showing that it feels too compelled to try to be so very different from the TV movie when the TV movie had a lot of stuff that was right and should be kept.
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The origional movie scared the crap out of me as a kid. But I will admit, despite not being the biggest fan of horror in general, I'm curious to see how this new adaption will turn out.
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The look is only half the scariness of Pennywise - clowns in general give a lot of people the creeps but what actually made the original movie Pennywise outright terrifying was Tim Curry. This new Pennywise has got some big shoes to fill (pun completely intended.) On the other hand, if the Spider-It does appear again it's almost guaranteed to be better than the first attempt...
No, the orgianl thing was about how unacceptable the scene itself was. Which must not have been too true, given it was found to be acceptable enough to publish in a book you could go pick up in Walmart back when they wouldn't sell unrated movies or uncensored music. You then asked if I think it's acceptable that a book had 11 year olds have sex...which I don't care about. Does the scene play like porn, does it read like porn? Because if the scene doesn't play like porn, I'm not really seeing the big deal beyond the idea of what's happening. And movies have done this kind of idea without showing it. Moonrise Kingdom pretty strongly suggest the two leads have sex, Kill Bill (in the anime part) shows O-Ren on top of a guy as she kills him, and have you ever see Towelhead? If they want to do that scene, I'm guessing there are ways they could do it in a movies.
No kidding. I remember reading that and then having to read it again to make sure I hadn't read it wrong. I suppose, looking back on it now, it was an attempt to escape the childhood monster by becoming grown ups. It would have made more sense if the kids had discussed sex as a gateway to adulthood in the book, but they didn't. It was weird.
I consider IT to be Kings best novel(though I haven't read The Stand, but I have read about the ending), great from start to finish. So I hold this film up to a high standard.
Spoiler for those not completely familiar with the book.
Wonder if they'll reveal the Spider in the first part, or work their way around it like in the original movie? Seems important if they are going to do the ritual of Chud. Makes sense if they do that an reveal the Spider, so they can do that little small tactical victory that hurts It the first time. Thus they can hit the notes of the Turtle being dead, and Bill missing the connection the second time as an Adult.
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I have no idea how they will do it. But I would end the first movie with their encounter with IT in the haunted house. That house alone will make for a stunning and frightening final act. Then I would build up to the encounter with the Spider IT in the second movie, and cut between the child and adult confrontation like the book did.
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To me it make sense to do it that way because, if you think about it, nothing much happens as adults. They get phone calls, they meet up, collectively recall their childhood, then they go to fight IT. It all happens in less then a day once they get to Derry. So the bulk of both movies should be taken up by the childhood scenes.
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Looks just fine to me. In this guise he's supposed to be a creepy-clown and that is a full-fledged creepy clown. Curious to see how they handle his many other guises as well. What'll be interesting the most though is how they handle the new timeline. A huge appeal of the novel for me has always been the 50's setting juxtaposed with the (then) more modern setting. I'll be interested to see if they can get that same sense of nostalgia and appeal in the juxtaposition of the 80s/Teens.
Interesting this just recently came out as I recently just got back into a King kick. My favorite writer as a teen, and have just recently had a nagging interest in picking up his more recent stuff that I have thus far neglected, as well as going back and re-reading some old classics and It was first on my list as it was always my favorite. Just finished 11/22/63 last night (a little segue but goddamn the character of Sadie hits my right in the feels). Read it in three days. One thing hasn't changed: when I read King, I binge-read King.
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