I have that character encyclopaedia too and the one that shocked me was katana, I can't remember her height but her weight was 43kg ( that's less then the average weight of a 12 year old.)
I have that character encyclopaedia too and the one that shocked me was katana, I can't remember her height but her weight was 43kg ( that's less then the average weight of a 12 year old.)
Btw. if Damian is really supposed to be allready 13 and is supposed to be as tall as Bruce as adult he would be very likely already taller than Tims official height.
I wanted to ask id somebody can finally answer my initial question.
I was also thinking about which of the official stats seems the most fitting for me. I would probably go with:
Bruce Wayne 6’2”, 210 lbs.
Dick Grayson 5’10”, 175 lbs.
Jason Todd 6’0”, 225 lbs.
Tim Drake 5’6”, 145 lbs.
Damian Wayne ???
Barbara Gordon 5’7”, 126 lbs.
Stephanie Brown 5’5”, 129 lbs.
Cassandra Cain 5’5”, 127 lbs.
Alfred Pennyworth 6’0”, 170 lbs.
Helena Bertinelli 5’9”, 120 lbs
Selina Keyle 5’9”, 135 lbs.
James Gordon 6’0”, 180 lbs.
Kate Kane 5’11”, 145 lbs.
Even if I would make my own stats I would consider to increase the weights of Barbara, Helena and Selina (especially Helena) and to give Cass stats similar to Shivas (5'8'', 141 lbs.)
You've got Jason Todd weighing more than Bruce and being shorter. Probably want to swap those weights. Most of the other male weights seem to be fairly close. (Although I'd probably increase Dick's weight a bit. We're the same height, he's more muscular, and I have 10 pounds on him. )
I always see Cass as shorter. Maybe 5'3" or so.
The women are all underweight, especially Kate. They've all got muscle. Check out some of the MMA heights/weights to give you an idea of what a muscular woman would/should weigh. Then factor in that they try to stay within weight classes as well. (Ronda Rousey is 5'7", 135 lbs, for example.)
Helena's even worse! She'd be a literal rail with those measurements.
Maybe add 15 - 20 lbs to each of them.
This site is great for visualizing height/weight ratios (for regular people, in fairness):
http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/bodies/heightweight.html
Young Animal was kind enough to give the height and weight of the newest Gothamite, Violet Paige: 6'0", 180 lbs.
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I like the idea of him being more muscular than Bruce.
She is ften drawn like that, but I just think that kind of ridiculous that such a small and skinny girl is supposed to be one of the top fighters of the DCU. And her parents are also quite tall.
Yup, but I think that at least the 5'9'' seems more fitting than the 5'11'' of the alternative stats. And like I said was just looking at the official stats.
Last edited by Aahz; 09-11-2016 at 10:27 PM.
Updated stats, this time from the 3rd Edition of The DC Comics Encyclopedia.
Here is a list of every Gotham- or Bat-associated character in the encyclopedia who had height and/or weight listed, at least that I could find. This encyclopedia covers until the end of the New 52, and since Rebirth is in the same continuity, these stats are canon (or at least the absolute closest we can get):
Anarky (Sam Young)
6'2", 215 lbs
Amadeus Arkham
6'3", 175 lbs
Jeremiah Arkham
5'9", 170 lbs
Azrael (Jean-Paul Valley)
6'2", 210 lbs
Bane
6'8", 350 lbs (425 lbs w/ Venom)
Jason Bard
6'0", 175 lbs
Bat-Mite
2'11", 47 lbs
Batgirl (Barbara Joan Gordon)
5'11", 135 lbs
Batman (Bruce Wayne)
6'2", 210 lbs
Batman Beyond (Timothy Drake)
6'0", 198 lbs
Batwoman (Katherine Rebecca Kane)
5'11", 141 lbs
Batwing (Luke Fox)
5'9", 170 lbs
Black Canary (Dinah Drake)
5'7", 130 lbs
Bronze Tiger (Benjamin Turner)
5'11", 196 lbs
Harvey Bullock
5'10", 248 lbs
Calendar Man (Julian Gregory Day)
5'11', 193 lbs
Catwoman (Selina Kyle)
5'7", 128 lbs
Cameron Chase
5'5", 129 lbs
Chesire (Jade Nguyen)
5'9", 135 lbs
Cluemaster (Arthur Brown)
5'11", 169 lbs
Deadshot (Floyd Lawton)
6'1", 202 lbs
Deathstroke (Slade Wilson)
6'4", 225 lbs
Director Bones
5'10", 165 lbs
Dollmaker (Barton Mathis)
5'11, 160 lbs
Henri Ducard
6'4", 215 lbs
Carmine Falcone
6'1", 205 lbs
Flamebird/Hawkfire (Mary Elizabeth "Bette" Kane)
5'6", 120 lbs
Lucius Fox
5'10", 170 lbs
James W. Gordon
5'9", 168 lbs
Harley Quinn
5'7", 115 lbs
Hitman (Tommy Monaghan)
6'0, 185 lbs
Huntress (Helena Wayne)
5'11", 130 lbs
Hush (Thomas Elliot)
6'3", 220 lbs
Joker
6'5", 192 lbs
KGBeast (Anatoli Knyazev)
6'3", 231 lbs
Killer Croc (Waylon Jones)
6'5", 268 lbs
Knightfall (Charise Carnes)
5'11", 141 lbs
Lady Shiva
5'8", 141 lbs
Salvatore Maroni
5'11, 227 lbs
Midnighter
6'5", 285 lbs
Mr. Freeze (Dr. Victor Fries)
6'0", 190 lbs
Victor Zsasz
5'8", 150 lbs
Mia "Maps" Mizoguchi
4'6", no weight listed
Renee Montoya
5'8", 144 lbs
Nobody (Morgan Ducard)
6'1", 195 lbs
Nightwing (Richard Grayson)
5'10", 175 lbs
Orphan (Cassandra Cain)
5'5", 110 lbs
The Penguin (Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot)
5'2", 175 lbs
Alfred Pennyworth
6'0", 160 lbs
Julia Pennyworth
5'8", 129 lbs
Poison Ivy (Pamela Lillian Isley)
5'8", 115 lbs
Professor Pyg (Lazlo Valentin)
5'11", 195 lbs
Psycho-Pirate (Roger Hayden)
6'1", 180 lbs
The Question
6'2", 185 lbs
Ragman (Rory Regan)
5'11", 165 lbs
Ra's al Ghul
6'5", 215 lbs
Red Hood (Jason Todd)
6'0", 225 lbs
The Riddler (Edward Nygma)
6'1", 183 lbs
Robin (Damian Wayne)
4'6", 84 lbs
Maggie Sawyer
5'10", 130 lbs
Scarecrow (Dr. Johnathan Crane)
6'0", 140 lbs
Olive Silverlock
5'3", no weight given
Solomon Grundy
7'5", 517 lbs
Spoiler (Stephanie Brown)
5'5", 110 lbs
Hugo Strange
5'11", 170 lbs
Strix (Mary Turner)
5'6", 125 lbs
Talia al Ghul
5'8", 120 lbs
Talon (Calvin Rose)
5'10", 174 lbs
Dr. Leslie Thompkins
5'7", 130 lbs
Two-Face (Harvey Dent)
6'0", 182 lbs
Ventriloquist (Shauna Belzer)
5'11", 115 lbs
Thomas Wayne
6'2", 210 lbs
Martha Wayne
5'4", 108 lbs
Last edited by Caivu; 10-29-2016 at 12:11 AM.
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Are there really no stats for Tim (as Red Robin), Steph, Harper and Duke listed?
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Bruce Wayne
???, 180 lbs (Detective Comics #214)
6’1'', 185 lbs. (Detective Comics #141 cover, World's Finest #51)
???, 189 lbs. (Star Sprangled Comics #91)
6’2”, 200 lbs. (Arkham Origins)
6’2”, 210 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985 , Batman Annual #13, Secret Files an Origins (Batman, Batman Allies, No Man's Land, Gotham, Superman-Batman), Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #1, Who's Who #16 1991, Encyclopedia 1+2+3, Ultimate Character Guide, Batman Sourcebook 1st ed. , Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Arkham Asylum, Arkham Knight, Arkham City, Injustice, Batman Character Encyclopedia, LSS)
Dick Grayson
5’8”, 140 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed. )
5’10”, 175 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Nightwing, Batman Allies, Teen Titans #1, Teen Titans – Outsiders #1), Who's Who Vol 1 #17 1986, Who's Who: Update '88 Vol 2 #2, Who's Who #14 1991, Ultimate Guide, Encyclopedia 1+2+3, Ultimate Character Guide, Injustice, Batman Character Encyclopedia, LSS)
6’0”, 175 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed.,)
6’0”, 175 lbs. (Arkham Knight)
6’0”, 187 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #19 1986 (Earth Two))
Jason Todd
??? 8 lbs. (Arkham Knight Genesis (as Newborn))
4’6” 87 lbs. (Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #5 )
5’0”, 110 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed. (age 12))
5’2”, 105 lbs. ( Who's Who Vol 1 #19 1986 (Earth One) ,Encyclopedia 1+2)
5’4”, ??? (New Titans #55)
5’4”, 115 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed. (Earth One))
6’0”, 180 lbs. (Secret Files an Origins (Batman Villians 2005), Batman Character Encyclopedia)
6’0”, 190 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
6’0”, 200 lbs. (Arkham Knight)
6’0”, 225 lbs. (Encyclopedia 2+3)
Tim Drake
5’1”, 115 lbs. (Who's Who #10 1991, Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Young Justice), Ultimate Guide)
5’5”, 125 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2, Secret Files and Origins (Sins of Youth, Teen Titans – Outsiders #1), Injustice, LSS)
???, 130 lbs (Robin 13)
5’6”, 131 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Allies), Batman Character Encyclopedia)
5’6”, 145 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
5’9”, 140 lbs. (Batman Family Vol2 #5 page 2)
5’10”, 170 lbs. (Arkham City)
6’0”, 189 lbs (Arkham Knight)
6’0”, 198 lbs (Encyclopedia 3 ( as Batman Beyond))
Damian Wayne
4’6”, 84 lbs. (The Batman Files, Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)
5’2”, 120 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
5'4'', 140 lbs. (Injustice)
5’10”, 175 lbs. (Injustice)
Barbara Gordon
5’2”, 105 lbs. (Arkham Origins, age barly 15)
???, 110 lbs (Batgirl Year One #4)
5’4”, ??? (Detective Comics #388)
5’6”, 121 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985 (Earth One), Batman Sourcebook 1st ed.)
5’7”, 116 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (JLA Vol 2))
5’7”, 126 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Birds of Prey), Injustice, LSS)
5’11”, 126 lbs. (Who's Who #7 1991, Secret Files an Origins (Batman, Batgirl), Ultimate Guide, Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight(as Oracle))
5’11”, 135 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #1, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Arkham Knight(as Batgirl), The Batman Files, Encyclopedia 3)
5’11”, 148 lbs. (Encyclopedia 1+2, Ultimate Character Guide, Batman Character Encyclopedia)
Stephanie Brown
5’5”, 110 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman), Ultimate Guide, Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)
5’5”, 129 lbs. (Encyclopedia 1+2)
5’5”, 142 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
Cassandra Cain
5’4”, 123 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Allies))
5’5”, 110 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Birds of Prey, Batgirl, No Man's Land), Ultimate Guide, , Batman Character Encyclopedia, The Batman Files, Encyclopedia3)
5’5”, 127 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2)
Alfred Pennyworth
5'9'', ??? (Detective Comics 110)
6’0”, 150 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed.)
6’0”, 160 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Secret Files and Origins (Batman), Ultimate Guide, Encyclopedia 1+2+3, Who's Who: Update '88 Vol 2 #4, Ultimate Character Guide, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Arkham Asylum, Arkham Knight, Arkham City, Batman Character Encyclopedia, LSS)
6’0”, 170 lbs. (Arkham Origins)
Jean-Paul Valley
6’2”, 210 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman, No Man's Land), Ultimate Guide, Encyclopedia1+2+3, Who's Who: Update '93 #1, The Batman Files)
Helena Bertinelli
5’9”, 120 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (JLA Vol 2))
5’11”, 130 lbs. (Who's Who #6 1991, Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Birds of Prey), Injustice, Batman Character Encyclopedia, The Batman Files)
5’11”, 148 lbs. (Ultimate Guide, Encyclopedia 1+2, Secret Files and Origins (Gotham), Ultimate Character Guide)
Helena Wayne
5’10”, 127 lbs. (Dark Knight Daughter, Who's Who Vol 1 #10 1985)
5’11”, 130 lbs. (Encyclopedia 3)
Selina Keyle
5’7”, 125 lbs. (Who's Who #16 1991, Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Batman Villians 1998), Ultimate Guide, Detective Comics Annual #2, Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight, LSS)
5’7”, 128 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #4 1985, Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #2, Secret Files and Origins (Catwoman), Batman Sourcebook 1st ed., Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Batman Character Encyclopedia, The Batman Files, Encyclopedia 3)
5’7”, 129 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #4 1985 (Earth Two))
5’7”, 133 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Allies), Encyclopedia 1+2, Ultimate Character Guide, Convergence Catwoman #2)
5’9”, 135 lbs. (Injustice)
Holly Robinson
5’3”, 115 lbs. ( Batman Character Encyclopedia)
5’3 1/2”, 115 lbs. ( Secret Files and Origins (Catwoman))
Talia Al Ghul
5’6”, 120 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed.)
5’7”, 141 lbs. (Arkham City)
5’8”, 120 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Superman - Batman), Who's Who #16 1991, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)
5’8”, 140 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Villians 2005), Ultimate Character Guide)
5’8”, 141 lbs. (Encyclopedia 1+2)
Lonnie Machin
5’2”, 115 lbs. (Who's Who #14 1991, Anarky Vol 1)
5’6”, 145 lbs. (Arkham Origins)
5’8”, 150 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2, Secret Files and Origins (DCU Heros))
James Gordon
5’9”, 168 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #2 , Who's Who #16 1991, Secret Files an Origins (Batman), Encyclopedia 1+2+3, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Batman Character Encyclopedia, The Batman Files, LSS)
6’0”, 165 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed., Night in Gotham)
6’0”, 178 lbs. (Legends of the Dark Knight Vol 2 #72)
6’0”, 180 lbs. (Arkham Origins, Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight)
Kate Kane
5’11”, 141 lbs. (Encyclopedia 3)
5’11”, 145 lbs. (Encyclopedia 2, Ultimate Character Guide, Injustice, Batman Character Encyclopedia)
Kathy Kane
5’6”, 123 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985)
Bette Kane
5’6”, 120 lbs. (Who's Who #2 1991 , Secret Origins Annual #3 ?, Secret Files an Origins (Teen Titans #2), Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)
5’6”, 123 lbs. (Encyclopedia 1+2)
Michael Lane
6’0”, 175 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
6’2”, 209 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)
6’2”, 210 lbs. (Arkham City, Arkham Knight)
Onyx Adams
5’9”, 120 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #17 1986)
5’9”, 146 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Allies), Encyclopedia 1+2)
Gavin King
6’2”, 180 lbs. (Encyclopedia 1+2)
6’2”, 195 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Guide to the DC Universe 2001-02))
Luke Fox
5’9”, 170 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)
Harper Row
5’5”, 112 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)
Duke Thomas
5’6”, 129 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)
Calivin Rose
5’10”, 174 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)
Mary Turner
5’6”, 125 lbs. (Encyclopedia 3)
5’7”, 120 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)
Julia Pennyworth
5’7”, 123 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed)
5’8”, 129 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)
Dinah Laurel Lance
5’4”, 115 lbs. (Who's Who #9 1991, Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Birds of Prey, JSA#1,))
5’4”, 120 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Green Arrow))
5’4”, 124 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2)
5’5”, 124 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
5’5”, 127 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985)
Dinah Drake Lance
5’4”, 115 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia (Prime Earth))
5’5”, 126 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985)
5’5”, 128 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2)
5’7”, 130 lbs. (Encyclopedia 3 (Prime Earth))
Harvey Bullock
5’10”, 248 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2+3, Who's Who: Update '88 Vol 1 #4, , Batman Character Encyclopedia)
5’10”, 250 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed, Night in Gotham)
Renee Montoya
5’8”, 144 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2+3, Ultimate Character Guide, Batman Character Encyclopedia)
Last edited by Aahz; 10-29-2016 at 02:33 PM.
I'm kinda surprised Catwoman's stayed so consistently 5'7", outside Injustice (and doesn't that version wear heels with her costume?). I also find it kind of funny that Talia is consistently taller then her at 5'8".
Somehow I don't think Babs and Kate being the same height has ever been reflected well in their appearances together...though I should probably read that Batgirl annual with their team-up or check out the one team-up from the Simone run and see how the artists depict their height relative to each other.
Black Canary usually seems a lot taller then her official heights would have you believe. I mean, shorter then or as tall as Steph, really ?
It's also weird to think that Helena and Babs would be taller then Dinah.
For what it's worth, the live-action Canaries are 5'9" (Smallville) and 5'7" (Arrow) respectively if we look at the actresses heights.