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    Default Duke Thomas Height Weight ?

    I recently bought the new "Batman Character Encyclopedia" that has short profiles and stats for the new Batman Characters.

    What I found strange is that Duke was listed as 1.86m (~6'1'') and 58.5kg (~129 lbs) which doesn't really fit his appearance in the comics.

    But my cops of the book seems to be a "translated" one which has all stats in metric units. There seems to be an other version of the book with imperial units. Does anybody own the "imperial" version of the book and can tell me if these stats are correct or if it the translator made a mistake?
    my guess is that the numbers were switched and the correct would be 1.68m (~5'6'').
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    I think you're exactly right. I'm 5'5" and around 120 with a similar build, so Duke being 5'6" is very plausible.
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    The Character Encyclopedia has crazy stats for a lot of characters, even prior to translation. I love that sort of trivia, so I wish they put more effort into creating realistic heights and weights.

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    5`6 seems the most plausible. 6`1 is just too much, IMO.

    Out of curiosity what are the the stats for Tim, Jay and Dick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadeb View Post
    The Character Encyclopedia has crazy stats for a lot of characters, even prior to translation. I love that sort of trivia, so I wish they put more effort into creating realistic heights and weights.
    Do you have the untranslated version?

    Dick 1.78m 79 kg (= 5'10'' 175 lbs)
    Jason 1.83m 82 kg (= 6'0'' 180 lbs)
    Tim 1.68m 59kg (= 5'6'' 128 lbs)
    Damian 1.37m 38 kg (= 4'6'' 84 lbs)

    I have actaully a list where i collect the stats from different publications for the Batfamily, that why I'm trying to reference Dukes hight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aahz View Post
    I have actaully a list where i collect the stats from different publications for the Batfamily, that why I'm trying to reference Dukes hight.
    Could you please post it? I'd love to know the official numbers for everyone.
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    Here, the "injustice" stats are from some wikia, I couldn't really track down where the stats in the wikia came from. And the one from Batman Character Encyclopedia are roughly conveted from metric, they may be a little bit diffrent in the original.

    Bruce Wayne
    ???, 180 lbs (Detective Comics #214)
    6’1, 185 lbs. (Detective Comics #141 cover, World's Finest #51)
    ???, 189 lbs. (Star Sprangled Comics #91)
    6’2”, 200 lbs. (Arkham Origins)
    6’2”, 210 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985 , Batman Annual #13, Secret Files an Origins (Batman, Batman Allies, No Man's Land, Gotham, Superman-Batman), Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #1, Who's Who #16 1991, Encyclopedia, Ultimate Character Guide, Batman Sourcebook 1st ed. , Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Arkham Asylum, Arkham Knight, Arkham City, Injustice, Batman Character Encyclopedia)

    Dick Grayson
    5’8”, 140 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed. )
    5’10”, 175 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Nightwing, Batman Allies, Teen Titans #1, Teen Titans – Outsiders #1), Who's Who Vol 1 #17 1986, Who's Who: Update '88 Vol 2 #2, Who's Who #14 1991, Ultimate Guide, Encyclopedia, Ultimate Character Guide, Injustice, Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    6’0”, 175 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed.,)
    6’0”, 175 lbs. (Arkham Knight)
    6’0”, 187 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #19 1986 (Earth Two))

    Jason Todd
    4’6” 87 lbs. (Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #5 )
    5’0”, 110 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed.)
    5’2”, 105 lbs. ( Who's Who Vol 1 #19 1986 (Earth One) ,Encyclopedia)
    5’4”, ??? (New Titans #55)
    5’4”, 115 (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed. (Earth One))
    6’0”, 180 lbs. (Secret Files an Origins (Batman Villians 2005), Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    6’0”, 190 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
    6’0”, 200 lbs. (Arkham Knight)
    6’0”, 225 lbs. (Encyclopedia)

    Tim Drake
    5’1”, 115 lbs. (Who's Who #10 1991, Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Young Justice), Ultimate Guide)
    5’5”, 125 lbs. (Encyclopedia, Secret Files and Origins (Sins of Youth, Teen Titans – Outsiders #1), Injustice)
    ???, 130 lbs (Robin 13)
    5’6”, 131 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Allies), Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    5’6”, 145 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
    5’9”, 140 lbs. (Batman Family Vol2 #5 page 2)
    5’10”, 170 lbs. (Arkham City)
    6’0”, 189 lbs (Arkham Knight)

    Damian Wayne
    4’6”, 84 lbs. (The Batman Files, Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    5’2”, 120 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
    5'4'', 140 lbs. (Injustice)
    5’10”, 175 lbs. (Injustice)

    Barbara Gordon
    5’2”, 105 lbs. (Arkham Origins, age barly 15)
    ???, 110 lbs (Batgirl Year One #4)
    5’4”, ??? (Detective Comics #388)
    5’6”, 121 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985 (Earth One), Batman Sourcebook 1st ed.)
    5’7”, 116 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (JLA Vol 2))
    5’7”, 126 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Birds of Prey), Injustice)
    5’11”, 126 lbs. (Who's Who #7 1991, Secret Files an Origins (Batman, Batgirl), Ultimate Guide, Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight(as Oracle))
    5’11”, 135 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #1, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Arkham Knight(as Batgirl), The Batman Files)
    5’11”, 148 lbs. (Encyclopedia, Ultimate Character Guide, Batman Character Encyclopedia)

    Stephanie Brown
    5’5”, 110 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman), Ultimate Guide, Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    5’5”, 129 lbs. (Encyclopedia)
    5’5”, 142 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)

    Cassandra Cain
    5’4”, 123 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Allies))
    5’5”, 110 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Birds of Prey, Batgirl, No Man's Land), Ultimate Guide, , Batman Character Encyclopedia, The Batman Files)
    5’5”, 127 lbs. (Encyclopedia)

    Alfred Pennyworth
    5'9'', ??? (Detective Comics 110)
    6’0”, 150 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed.)
    6’0”, 160 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Secret Files and Origins (Batman), Ultimate Guide, Encyclopedia, Who's Who: Update '88 Vol 2 #4, Ultimate Character Guide, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Arkham Asylum, Arkham Knight, Arkham City, Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    6’0”, 170 lbs. (Arkham Origins)

    Jean-Paul Valley
    6’2”, 210 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman, No Man's Land), Ultimate Guide, Encyclopedia, Who's Who: Update '93 #1, The Batman Files)

    Helena Bertinelli
    5’9”, 120 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (JLA Vol 2))
    5’11”, 130 lbs. (Who's Who #6 1991, Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Birds of Prey), Injustice, Batman Character Encyclopedia, The Batman Files)
    5’11”, 148 lbs. (Ultimate Guide, Encyclopedia, Secret Files and Origins (Gotham), Ultimate Character Guide)

    Helena Wayne
    5’10”, 127 lbs. (Dark Knight Daughter, Who's Who Vol 1 #10 1985)

    Selina Keyle
    5’7”, 125 lbs. (Who's Who #16 1991, Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Batman Villians 1998), Ultimate Guide, Detective Comics Annual #2, Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight)
    5’7”, 128 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #4 1985, Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #2, Secret Files and Origins (Catwoman), Batman Sourcebook 1st ed., Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Batman Character Encyclopedia, The Batman Files)
    5’7”, 129 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #4 1985 (Earth Two))
    5’7”, 133 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Allies), Encyclopedia, Ultimate Character Guide, Convergence Catwoman #2)
    5’9”, 135 lbs. (Injustice)

    Talia Al Ghul
    5’6”, 120 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed.)
    5’7”, 141 lbs. (Arkham City)
    5’8”, 120 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Superman - Batman), Who's Who #16 1991, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    5’8”, 140 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Villians 2005), Ultimate Character Guide)
    5’8”, 141 lbs. (Encyclopedia)

    Lonnie Machin
    5’2”, 115 lbs. (Who's Who #14 1991, Anarky Vol 1)
    5’6”, 145 lbs. (Arkham Origins)
    5’8”, 150 lbs. (Encyclopedia, Secret Files and Origins (DCU Heros))

    James Gordon
    5’9”, 168 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #2 , Who's Who #16 1991, Secret Files an Origins (Batman), Encyclopedia, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Batman Character Encyclopedia, The Batman Files)
    6’0”, 165 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed., Night in Gotham)
    6’0”, 180 lbs. (Arkham Origins, Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight)

    Kate Kane
    5’11”, 145 lbs. (Encyclopedia, Ultimate Character Guide, Injustice, Batman Character Encyclopedia)

    Kathy Kane
    5’6”, 123 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985)

    Bette Kane
    5’6”, 120 lbs. (Who's Who #2 1991 , Secret Origins Annual #3 ?, Secret Files an Origins (Teen Titans #2), Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    5’6”, 123 lbs. (Encyclopedia)

    Michael Lane
    6’0”, 175 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
    6’2”, 209 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    6’2”, 210 lbs. (Arkham City, Arkham Knight)

    Onyx Adams
    5’9”, 120 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #17 1986)
    5’9”, 146 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Allies), Encyclopedia)

    Gavin King
    6’2”, 180 lbs. (Encyclopedia)
    6’2”, 195 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Guide to the DC Universe 2001-02))

    Luke Fox
    5’9”, 170 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)

    Harper Row
    5’5”, 112 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)

    Calivin Rose
    5’10”, 175 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)

    Mary Turner
    5’7”, 120 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)
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    Btw. the stats of Luke Fox seem also not really fitting, if any body owns the imperial version of the book it would be nice if he could check Luke as well.

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    I wanted to ask id somebody can finally answer my initial question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aahz View Post
    I recently bought the new "Batman Character Encyclopedia" that has short profiles and stats for the new Batman Characters.

    What I found strange is that Duke was listed as 1.86m (~6'1'') and 58.5kg (~129 lbs) which doesn't really fit his appearance in the comics.

    But my cops of the book seems to be a "translated" one which has all stats in metric units. There seems to be an other version of the book with imperial units. Does anybody own the "imperial" version of the book and can tell me if these stats are correct or if it the translator made a mistake?
    my guess is that the numbers were switched and the correct would be 1.68m (~5'6'').
    I was also thinking about which of the official stats seems the most fitting for me. I would probably go with:

    Bruce Wayne 62, 210 lbs.
    Dick Grayson 510, 175 lbs.
    Jason Todd 60, 225 lbs.
    Tim Drake 56, 145 lbs.
    Damian Wayne ???
    Barbara Gordon 57, 126 lbs.
    Stephanie Brown 55, 129 lbs.
    Cassandra Cain 55, 127 lbs.
    Alfred Pennyworth 60, 170 lbs.
    Helena Bertinelli 59, 120 lbs
    Selina Keyle 59, 135 lbs.
    James Gordon 60, 180 lbs.
    Kate Kane 511, 145 lbs.

    Even if I would make my own stats I would consider to increase the weights of Barbara, Helena and Selina (especially Helena) and to give Cass stats similar to Shivas (5'8'', 141 lbs.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aahz View Post
    I wanted to ask id somebody can finally answer my initial question.



    I was also thinking about which of the official stats seems the most fitting for me. I would probably go with:

    Bruce Wayne 6’2”, 210 lbs.
    Dick Grayson 5’10”, 175 lbs.
    Jason Todd 6’0”, 225 lbs.
    Tim Drake 5’6”, 145 lbs.
    Damian Wayne ???
    Barbara Gordon 5’7”, 126 lbs.
    Stephanie Brown 5’5”, 129 lbs.
    Cassandra Cain 5’5”, 127 lbs.
    Alfred Pennyworth 6’0”, 170 lbs.
    Helena Bertinelli 5’9”, 120 lbs
    Selina Keyle 5’9”, 135 lbs.
    James Gordon 6’0”, 180 lbs.
    Kate Kane 5’11”, 145 lbs.

    Even if I would make my own stats I would consider to increase the weights of Barbara, Helena and Selina (especially Helena) and to give Cass stats similar to Shivas (5'8'', 141 lbs.)
    You've got Jason Todd weighing more than Bruce and being shorter. Probably want to swap those weights. Most of the other male weights seem to be fairly close. (Although I'd probably increase Dick's weight a bit. We're the same height, he's more muscular, and I have 10 pounds on him. )

    I always see Cass as shorter. Maybe 5'3" or so.

    The women are all underweight, especially Kate. They've all got muscle. Check out some of the MMA heights/weights to give you an idea of what a muscular woman would/should weigh. Then factor in that they try to stay within weight classes as well. (Ronda Rousey is 5'7", 135 lbs, for example.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominus View Post
    The women are all underweight, especially Kate. They've all got muscle. Check out some of the MMA heights/weights to give you an idea of what a muscular woman would/should weigh. Then factor in that they try to stay within weight classes as well. (Ronda Rousey is 5'7", 135 lbs, for example.)
    Helena's even worse! She'd be a literal rail with those measurements.
    Maybe add 15 - 20 lbs to each of them.

    This site is great for visualizing height/weight ratios (for regular people, in fairness):

    http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/bodies/heightweight.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by dominus View Post
    You've got Jason Todd weighing more than Bruce and being shorter. Probably want to swap those weights. Most of the other male weights seem to be fairly close.
    I like the idea of him being more muscular than Bruce.

    Quote Originally Posted by dominus View Post
    I always see Cass as shorter. Maybe 5'3" or so.
    She is ften drawn like that, but I just think that kind of ridiculous that such a small and skinny girl is supposed to be one of the top fighters of the DCU. And her parents are also quite tall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caivu View Post
    Helena's even worse! She'd be a literal rail with those measurements.
    Yup, but I think that at least the 5'9'' seems more fitting than the 5'11'' of the alternative stats. And like I said was just looking at the official stats.
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