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    I have that character encyclopaedia too and the one that shocked me was katana, I can't remember her height but her weight was 43kg ( that's less then the average weight of a 12 year old.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red obin View Post
    I have that character encyclopaedia too and the one that shocked me was katana, I can't remember her height but her weight was 43kg ( that's less then the average weight of a 12 year old.)
    But Katana is usually supposed to be very tiny 5'2'' (~157cm), even if the writers tend to ignore it.

    Do you also have the metric version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red obin View Post
    I have that character encyclopaedia too and the one that shocked me was katana, I can't remember her height but her weight was 43kg ( that's less then the average weight of a 12 year old.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Aahz View Post
    But Katana is usually supposed to be very tiny 5'2'' (~157cm), even if the writers tend to ignore it.

    Do you also have the metric version?
    Find a girl that's 5'2" and ask her if she weighs 95lbs. Report back when you regain consciousness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominus View Post
    Find a girl that's 5'2" and ask her if she weighs 95lbs. Report back when you regain consciousness.
    Just looked it up some of the other books list her at 96 lbs. and some at 118 lbs. .

    Btw. I think in general the the values from the Ulimate Chacters guide make more sense then the one from the Batman Charcter Encyclopedia.

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    Btw. if Damian is really supposed to be allready 13 and is supposed to be as tall as Bruce as adult he would be very likely already taller than Tims official height.

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    I wanted to ask id somebody can finally answer my initial question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aahz View Post
    I recently bought the new "Batman Character Encyclopedia" that has short profiles and stats for the new Batman Characters.

    What I found strange is that Duke was listed as 1.86m (~6'1'') and 58.5kg (~129 lbs) which doesn't really fit his appearance in the comics.

    But my cops of the book seems to be a "translated" one which has all stats in metric units. There seems to be an other version of the book with imperial units. Does anybody own the "imperial" version of the book and can tell me if these stats are correct or if it the translator made a mistake?
    my guess is that the numbers were switched and the correct would be 1.68m (~5'6'').
    I was also thinking about which of the official stats seems the most fitting for me. I would probably go with:

    Bruce Wayne 62, 210 lbs.
    Dick Grayson 510, 175 lbs.
    Jason Todd 60, 225 lbs.
    Tim Drake 56, 145 lbs.
    Damian Wayne ???
    Barbara Gordon 57, 126 lbs.
    Stephanie Brown 55, 129 lbs.
    Cassandra Cain 55, 127 lbs.
    Alfred Pennyworth 60, 170 lbs.
    Helena Bertinelli 59, 120 lbs
    Selina Keyle 59, 135 lbs.
    James Gordon 60, 180 lbs.
    Kate Kane 511, 145 lbs.

    Even if I would make my own stats I would consider to increase the weights of Barbara, Helena and Selina (especially Helena) and to give Cass stats similar to Shivas (5'8'', 141 lbs.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aahz View Post
    I wanted to ask id somebody can finally answer my initial question.



    I was also thinking about which of the official stats seems the most fitting for me. I would probably go with:

    Bruce Wayne 6’2”, 210 lbs.
    Dick Grayson 5’10”, 175 lbs.
    Jason Todd 6’0”, 225 lbs.
    Tim Drake 5’6”, 145 lbs.
    Damian Wayne ???
    Barbara Gordon 5’7”, 126 lbs.
    Stephanie Brown 5’5”, 129 lbs.
    Cassandra Cain 5’5”, 127 lbs.
    Alfred Pennyworth 6’0”, 170 lbs.
    Helena Bertinelli 5’9”, 120 lbs
    Selina Keyle 5’9”, 135 lbs.
    James Gordon 6’0”, 180 lbs.
    Kate Kane 5’11”, 145 lbs.

    Even if I would make my own stats I would consider to increase the weights of Barbara, Helena and Selina (especially Helena) and to give Cass stats similar to Shivas (5'8'', 141 lbs.)
    You've got Jason Todd weighing more than Bruce and being shorter. Probably want to swap those weights. Most of the other male weights seem to be fairly close. (Although I'd probably increase Dick's weight a bit. We're the same height, he's more muscular, and I have 10 pounds on him. )

    I always see Cass as shorter. Maybe 5'3" or so.

    The women are all underweight, especially Kate. They've all got muscle. Check out some of the MMA heights/weights to give you an idea of what a muscular woman would/should weigh. Then factor in that they try to stay within weight classes as well. (Ronda Rousey is 5'7", 135 lbs, for example.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominus View Post
    The women are all underweight, especially Kate. They've all got muscle. Check out some of the MMA heights/weights to give you an idea of what a muscular woman would/should weigh. Then factor in that they try to stay within weight classes as well. (Ronda Rousey is 5'7", 135 lbs, for example.)
    Helena's even worse! She'd be a literal rail with those measurements.
    Maybe add 15 - 20 lbs to each of them.

    This site is great for visualizing height/weight ratios (for regular people, in fairness):

    http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/bodies/heightweight.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by dominus View Post
    You've got Jason Todd weighing more than Bruce and being shorter. Probably want to swap those weights. Most of the other male weights seem to be fairly close.
    I like the idea of him being more muscular than Bruce.

    Quote Originally Posted by dominus View Post
    I always see Cass as shorter. Maybe 5'3" or so.
    She is ften drawn like that, but I just think that kind of ridiculous that such a small and skinny girl is supposed to be one of the top fighters of the DCU. And her parents are also quite tall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caivu View Post
    Helena's even worse! She'd be a literal rail with those measurements.
    Yup, but I think that at least the 5'9'' seems more fitting than the 5'11'' of the alternative stats. And like I said was just looking at the official stats.
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    Updated stats, this time from the 3rd Edition of The DC Comics Encyclopedia.

    Here is a list of every Gotham- or Bat-associated character in the encyclopedia who had height and/or weight listed, at least that I could find. This encyclopedia covers until the end of the New 52, and since Rebirth is in the same continuity, these stats are canon (or at least the absolute closest we can get):

    Anarky (Sam Young)

    6'2", 215 lbs

    Amadeus Arkham

    6'3", 175 lbs

    Jeremiah Arkham
    5'9", 170 lbs

    Azrael (Jean-Paul Valley)

    6'2", 210 lbs

    Bane
    6'8", 350 lbs (425 lbs w/ Venom)

    Jason Bard
    6'0", 175 lbs

    Bat-Mite
    2'11", 47 lbs

    Batgirl (Barbara Joan Gordon)

    5'11", 135 lbs

    Batman (Bruce Wayne)

    6'2", 210 lbs

    Batman Beyond (Timothy Drake)
    6'0", 198 lbs

    Batwoman (Katherine Rebecca Kane)

    5'11", 141 lbs

    Batwing (Luke Fox)
    5'9", 170 lbs

    Black Canary (Dinah Drake)
    5'7", 130 lbs

    Bronze Tiger (Benjamin Turner)
    5'11", 196 lbs

    Harvey Bullock
    5'10", 248 lbs

    Calendar Man (Julian Gregory Day)
    5'11', 193 lbs

    Catwoman (Selina Kyle)
    5'7", 128 lbs

    Cameron Chase
    5'5", 129 lbs

    Chesire (Jade Nguyen)
    5'9", 135 lbs

    Cluemaster (Arthur Brown)
    5'11", 169 lbs

    Deadshot (Floyd Lawton)

    6'1", 202 lbs

    Deathstroke (Slade Wilson)

    6'4", 225 lbs

    Director Bones
    5'10", 165 lbs

    Dollmaker (Barton Mathis)

    5'11, 160 lbs

    Henri Ducard
    6'4", 215 lbs

    Carmine Falcone
    6'1", 205 lbs

    Flamebird/Hawkfire (Mary Elizabeth "Bette" Kane)
    5'6", 120 lbs

    Lucius Fox
    5'10", 170 lbs

    James W. Gordon

    5'9", 168 lbs

    Harley Quinn

    5'7", 115 lbs

    Hitman (Tommy Monaghan)
    6'0, 185 lbs

    Huntress (Helena Wayne)

    5'11", 130 lbs

    Hush (Thomas Elliot)

    6'3", 220 lbs

    Joker
    6'5", 192 lbs

    KGBeast (Anatoli Knyazev)
    6'3", 231 lbs

    Killer Croc (Waylon Jones)
    6'5", 268 lbs

    Knightfall (Charise Carnes)
    5'11", 141 lbs

    Lady Shiva
    5'8", 141 lbs

    Salvatore Maroni

    5'11, 227 lbs

    Midnighter
    6'5", 285 lbs

    Mr. Freeze (Dr. Victor Fries)
    6'0", 190 lbs

    Victor Zsasz
    5'8", 150 lbs

    Mia "Maps" Mizoguchi

    4'6", no weight listed

    Renee Montoya
    5'8", 144 lbs

    Nobody (Morgan Ducard)

    6'1", 195 lbs

    Nightwing (Richard Grayson)

    5'10", 175 lbs

    Orphan (Cassandra Cain)
    5'5", 110 lbs

    The Penguin (Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot)

    5'2", 175 lbs

    Alfred Pennyworth

    6'0", 160 lbs

    Julia Pennyworth
    5'8", 129 lbs

    Poison Ivy (Pamela Lillian Isley)

    5'8", 115 lbs

    Professor Pyg (Lazlo Valentin)

    5'11", 195 lbs

    Psycho-Pirate (Roger Hayden)
    6'1", 180 lbs

    The Question
    6'2", 185 lbs

    Ragman (Rory Regan)
    5'11", 165 lbs

    Ra's al Ghul
    6'5", 215 lbs

    Red Hood (Jason Todd)
    6'0", 225 lbs

    The Riddler (Edward Nygma)
    6'1", 183 lbs

    Robin (Damian Wayne)

    4'6", 84 lbs

    Maggie Sawyer

    5'10", 130 lbs

    Scarecrow (Dr. Johnathan Crane)

    6'0", 140 lbs

    Olive Silverlock
    5'3", no weight given

    Solomon Grundy
    7'5", 517 lbs

    Spoiler (Stephanie Brown)

    5'5", 110 lbs

    Hugo Strange
    5'11", 170 lbs

    Strix (Mary Turner)
    5'6", 125 lbs

    Talia al Ghul

    5'8", 120 lbs

    Talon (Calvin Rose)
    5'10", 174 lbs

    Dr. Leslie Thompkins
    5'7", 130 lbs

    Two-Face (Harvey Dent)
    6'0", 182 lbs

    Ventriloquist (Shauna Belzer)

    5'11", 115 lbs

    Thomas Wayne
    6'2", 210 lbs

    Martha Wayne

    5'4", 108 lbs
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    @Caivu
    Thanks!!!

    Are there really no stats for Tim (as Red Robin), Steph, Harper and Duke listed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aahz View Post
    @Caivu
    Thanks!!!

    Are there really no stats for Tim (as Red Robin), Steph, Harper and Duke listed?
    Tim doesn't even have his own entry at all aside from Batman Beyond. Harper and Duke have no listed stats, and Steph's on there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caivu View Post
    Tim doesn't even have his own entry at all aside from Batman Beyond. Harper and Duke have no listed stats, and Steph's on there.
    I over looked Steph in this long list.

    Btw. can maybe now anybody answer my original question about Dukes Hight in the "Batman Character Encyclopaedia"?

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    Bruce Wayne
    ???, 180 lbs (Detective Comics #214)
    6’1'', 185 lbs. (Detective Comics #141 cover, World's Finest #51)
    ???, 189 lbs. (Star Sprangled Comics #91)
    6’2”, 200 lbs. (Arkham Origins)
    6’2”, 210 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985 , Batman Annual #13, Secret Files an Origins (Batman, Batman Allies, No Man's Land, Gotham, Superman-Batman), Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #1, Who's Who #16 1991, Encyclopedia 1+2+3, Ultimate Character Guide, Batman Sourcebook 1st ed. , Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Arkham Asylum, Arkham Knight, Arkham City, Injustice, Batman Character Encyclopedia, LSS)

    Dick Grayson
    5’8”, 140 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed. )
    5’10”, 175 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Nightwing, Batman Allies, Teen Titans #1, Teen Titans – Outsiders #1), Who's Who Vol 1 #17 1986, Who's Who: Update '88 Vol 2 #2, Who's Who #14 1991, Ultimate Guide, Encyclopedia 1+2+3, Ultimate Character Guide, Injustice, Batman Character Encyclopedia, LSS)
    6’0”, 175 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed.,)
    6’0”, 175 lbs. (Arkham Knight)
    6’0”, 187 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #19 1986 (Earth Two))

    Jason Todd

    ??? 8 lbs. (Arkham Knight Genesis (as Newborn))
    4’6” 87 lbs. (Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #5 )
    5’0”, 110 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed. (age 12))
    5’2”, 105 lbs. ( Who's Who Vol 1 #19 1986 (Earth One) ,Encyclopedia 1+2)
    5’4”, ??? (New Titans #55)
    5’4”, 115 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed. (Earth One))
    6’0”, 180 lbs. (Secret Files an Origins (Batman Villians 2005), Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    6’0”, 190 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
    6’0”, 200 lbs. (Arkham Knight)
    6’0”, 225 lbs. (Encyclopedia 2+3)

    Tim Drake
    5’1”, 115 lbs. (Who's Who #10 1991, Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Young Justice), Ultimate Guide)
    5’5”, 125 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2, Secret Files and Origins (Sins of Youth, Teen Titans – Outsiders #1), Injustice, LSS)
    ???, 130 lbs (Robin 13)
    5’6”, 131 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Allies), Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    5’6”, 145 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
    5’9”, 140 lbs. (Batman Family Vol2 #5 page 2)
    5’10”, 170 lbs. (Arkham City)
    6’0”, 189 lbs (Arkham Knight)
    6’0”, 198 lbs (Encyclopedia 3 ( as Batman Beyond))

    Damian Wayne
    4’6”, 84 lbs. (The Batman Files, Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)
    5’2”, 120 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
    5'4'', 140 lbs. (Injustice)
    5’10”, 175 lbs. (Injustice)

    Barbara Gordon
    5’2”, 105 lbs. (Arkham Origins, age barly 15)
    ???, 110 lbs (Batgirl Year One #4)
    5’4”, ??? (Detective Comics #388)
    5’6”, 121 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985 (Earth One), Batman Sourcebook 1st ed.)
    5’7”, 116 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (JLA Vol 2))
    5’7”, 126 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Birds of Prey), Injustice, LSS)
    5’11”, 126 lbs. (Who's Who #7 1991, Secret Files an Origins (Batman, Batgirl), Ultimate Guide, Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight(as Oracle))
    5’11”, 135 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #1, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Arkham Knight(as Batgirl), The Batman Files, Encyclopedia 3)
    5’11”, 148 lbs. (Encyclopedia 1+2, Ultimate Character Guide, Batman Character Encyclopedia)

    Stephanie Brown
    5’5”, 110 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman), Ultimate Guide, Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)
    5’5”, 129 lbs. (Encyclopedia 1+2)
    5’5”, 142 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)

    Cassandra Cain
    5’4”, 123 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Allies))
    5’5”, 110 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Birds of Prey, Batgirl, No Man's Land), Ultimate Guide, , Batman Character Encyclopedia, The Batman Files, Encyclopedia3)
    5’5”, 127 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2)

    Alfred Pennyworth
    5'9'', ??? (Detective Comics 110)
    6’0”, 150 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed.)
    6’0”, 160 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Secret Files and Origins (Batman), Ultimate Guide, Encyclopedia 1+2+3, Who's Who: Update '88 Vol 2 #4, Ultimate Character Guide, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Arkham Asylum, Arkham Knight, Arkham City, Batman Character Encyclopedia, LSS)
    6’0”, 170 lbs. (Arkham Origins)

    Jean-Paul Valley
    6’2”, 210 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman, No Man's Land), Ultimate Guide, Encyclopedia1+2+3, Who's Who: Update '93 #1, The Batman Files)

    Helena Bertinelli
    5’9”, 120 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (JLA Vol 2))
    5’11”, 130 lbs. (Who's Who #6 1991, Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Birds of Prey), Injustice, Batman Character Encyclopedia, The Batman Files)
    5’11”, 148 lbs. (Ultimate Guide, Encyclopedia 1+2, Secret Files and Origins (Gotham), Ultimate Character Guide)

    Helena Wayne
    5’10”, 127 lbs. (Dark Knight Daughter, Who's Who Vol 1 #10 1985)
    5’11”, 130 lbs. (Encyclopedia 3)

    Selina Keyle
    5’7”, 125 lbs. (Who's Who #16 1991, Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Batman Villians 1998), Ultimate Guide, Detective Comics Annual #2, Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight, LSS)
    5’7”, 128 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #4 1985, Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #2, Secret Files and Origins (Catwoman), Batman Sourcebook 1st ed., Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Batman Character Encyclopedia, The Batman Files, Encyclopedia 3)
    5’7”, 129 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #4 1985 (Earth Two))
    5’7”, 133 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Allies), Encyclopedia 1+2, Ultimate Character Guide, Convergence Catwoman #2)
    5’9”, 135 lbs. (Injustice)

    Holly Robinson
    5’3”, 115 lbs. ( Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    5’3 1/2”, 115 lbs. ( Secret Files and Origins (Catwoman))

    Talia Al Ghul
    5’6”, 120 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed.)
    5’7”, 141 lbs. (Arkham City)
    5’8”, 120 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Superman - Batman), Who's Who #16 1991, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)
    5’8”, 140 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Villians 2005), Ultimate Character Guide)
    5’8”, 141 lbs. (Encyclopedia 1+2)

    Lonnie Machin
    5’2”, 115 lbs. (Who's Who #14 1991, Anarky Vol 1)
    5’6”, 145 lbs. (Arkham Origins)
    5’8”, 150 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2, Secret Files and Origins (DCU Heros))

    James Gordon
    5’9”, 168 lbs. (Batman Annual #13, Who's Who: Update '87 Vol 1 #2 , Who's Who #16 1991, Secret Files an Origins (Batman), Encyclopedia 1+2+3, Batman Sourcebook 2nd ed., Batman Character Encyclopedia, The Batman Files, LSS)
    6’0”, 165 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed., Night in Gotham)
    6’0”, 178 lbs. (Legends of the Dark Knight Vol 2 #72)
    6’0”, 180 lbs. (Arkham Origins, Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight)

    Kate Kane
    5’11”, 141 lbs. (Encyclopedia 3)
    5’11”, 145 lbs. (Encyclopedia 2, Ultimate Character Guide, Injustice, Batman Character Encyclopedia)

    Kathy Kane
    5’6”, 123 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985)

    Bette Kane
    5’6”, 120 lbs. (Who's Who #2 1991 , Secret Origins Annual #3 ?, Secret Files an Origins (Teen Titans #2), Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)
    5’6”, 123 lbs. (Encyclopedia 1+2)

    Michael Lane
    6’0”, 175 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
    6’2”, 209 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    6’2”, 210 lbs. (Arkham City, Arkham Knight)

    Onyx Adams
    5’9”, 120 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #17 1986)
    5’9”, 146 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Batman Allies), Encyclopedia 1+2)

    Gavin King
    6’2”, 180 lbs. (Encyclopedia 1+2)
    6’2”, 195 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Guide to the DC Universe 2001-02))

    Luke Fox
    5’9”, 170 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)

    Harper Row
    5’5”, 112 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)

    Duke Thomas
    5’6”, 129 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)

    Calivin Rose
    5’10”, 174 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)

    Mary Turner
    5’6”, 125 lbs. (Encyclopedia 3)
    5’7”, 120 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia)

    Julia Pennyworth
    5’7”, 123 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed)
    5’8”, 129 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia 3)

    Dinah Laurel Lance
    5’4”, 115 lbs. (Who's Who #9 1991, Secret Files and Origins (Batman, Birds of Prey, JSA#1,))
    5’4”, 120 lbs. (Secret Files and Origins (Green Arrow))
    5’4”, 124 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2)
    5’5”, 124 lbs. (Ultimate Character Guide)
    5’5”, 127 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985)

    Dinah Drake Lance
    5’4”, 115 lbs. (Batman Character Encyclopedia (Prime Earth))
    5’5”, 126 lbs. (Who's Who Vol 1 #2 1985)
    5’5”, 128 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2)
    5’7”, 130 lbs. (Encyclopedia 3 (Prime Earth))

    Harvey Bullock
    5’10”, 248 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2+3, Who's Who: Update '88 Vol 1 #4, , Batman Character Encyclopedia)
    5’10”, 250 lbs. (Batman Sourcebook 1st ed, Night in Gotham)

    Renee Montoya
    5’8”, 144 lbs. (Encyclopedia1+2+3, Ultimate Character Guide, Batman Character Encyclopedia)
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    I'm kinda surprised Catwoman's stayed so consistently 5'7", outside Injustice (and doesn't that version wear heels with her costume?). I also find it kind of funny that Talia is consistently taller then her at 5'8".

    Somehow I don't think Babs and Kate being the same height has ever been reflected well in their appearances together...though I should probably read that Batgirl annual with their team-up or check out the one team-up from the Simone run and see how the artists depict their height relative to each other.

    Black Canary usually seems a lot taller then her official heights would have you believe. I mean, shorter then or as tall as Steph, really ?

    It's also weird to think that Helena and Babs would be taller then Dinah.

    For what it's worth, the live-action Canaries are 5'9" (Smallville) and 5'7" (Arrow) respectively if we look at the actresses heights.

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