New Champions Appreciation 2018

[The Dying Detective]

It's a really busy design and art consistency might falter. The helmet shaping is odd.

I honestly would have been fine with a color scheme change-up, the armor would've looked great in some shade of blue or purple.

Indeed the original design was perfect the way it was it just needed a more original colour scheme being simple is sorely lacking these days in art.

[kurenai24]

spoilers:

Yeah, seemed obvious to me, he can no longer change back into his old scrawny self.

end of spoilers

The links in my sig are there for a reason... here's his appreciation thread.
http://community.comicbookresources....o-Appreciation

That sucks tbh.

Riri looks like she's piloting this classic 70's anime robot, Aphrodite A.

Cute tbh.

[Digifiend]

Kamala, Miles, Sam - Marvel's new Trinity?
https://www.cbr.com/marvel-new-trini...sam-alexander/

[The Dying Detective]

Kamala, Miles, Sam - Marvel's new Trinity?
https://www.cbr.com/marvel-new-trini...sam-alexander/

One problem what have they done to be considered on the same level as Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America?

[Fokken]

One problem what have they done to be considered on the same level as Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America?

They may represent that kind of importance to their generation (and/or next), in terms of representation and heroic journey and such.

This is not an analog situation. They aren't interchangeable WITH those icons but could represent this next generation of heroes in that same model.

[The Dying Detective]

They may represent that kind of importance to their generation (and/or next), in terms of representation and heroic journey and such.

This is not an analog situation. They aren't interchangeable WITH those icons but could represent this next generation of heroes in that same model.

Well you may say that but aside from that article is the idea that they are that important to this generation a thing? Ms Marvel's comic is a little too kiddish. And what prompted her to form the Champions in the first place now I know this is an appreciation thread but I have to say it the reason is a little flawed as Kamala threw a temper tantrum at Sam Wilson when his logic was sound. Miles Morales is kind of bland and one note. May Bryan Hill help him. Sam Alexander well he's not bad but he hasn't really done anything worth talking about either.

[Fokken]

Cute. Thanks. Sounds like you've done your research.

[The Dying Detective]

Cute. Thanks. Sounds like you've done your research.

I am entitled to my own opinion.

[leo619]

Cute. Thanks. Sounds like you've done your research.

Lol exactly, then he has to nerve to comment this in an appreciation thread is mindboggling. you notice how no one goes to Incredible Hulk or Tony Stark thread to bash a character.

[The Dying Detective]

Lol exactly, then he has to nerve to comment this in an appreciation thread is mindboggling. you notice how no one goes to Incredible Hulk or Tony Stark thread to bash a character.

I was trying to say what I can in the most polite way possible. But fine if I'm breaking any rules I won't do it again then.

[leo619]

Kamala, Miles, Sam - Marvel's new Trinity?
https://www.cbr.com/marvel-new-trini...sam-alexander/

I've said that for a while now. Marvel has a gold mine with these three characters, and even better these are characters DC has almost no counter part to. DC had certain attempts. Blue Beetle would be the closest they had, New Superman, Val Zod would be very distant seconds. But in the end, DC hasn't been able to capture that magic, nor provide anywhere near the same level of push as Marvel has with these characters. That's why it's so important Marvel doesn't muck it up with this fresh s*** revamp, which they slowly seem to be doing.

[Triniking1234]

Nova, Ultimate Spidey and Ms. Marvel can be their own trilogy when they get written better. Kamala shines better in Secret Warriors and Champions than in her own solo. Nova should be multi-tasking some more. Miles needs to suffer some more like his predecessor.

[Digifiend]

Well you may say that but aside from that article is the idea that they are that important to this generation a thing? Ms Marvel's comic is a little too kiddish. And what prompted her to form the Champions in the first place now I know this is an appreciation thread but I have to say it the reason is a little flawed as Kamala threw a temper tantrum at Sam Wilson when his logic was sound. Miles Morales is kind of bland and one note. May Bryan Hill help him. Sam Alexander well he's not bad but he hasn't really done anything worth talking about either.

Don't forget, during that incident in Champions #1, the Avengers were down to only four members - Kamala, Sam Wilson, Jane Foster, and Vision (Tony was in his coma and Miles and Nova had already quit). It was only in Avengers #1 just after that that Hercules and Peter Parker were recruited, with Nadia also given full membership at that point. I reckon Sam Wilson was pretty stressed out that day.

During Worlds Collide, there was a moment where Nova was lashing out and Falcon yelled at Kamala, telling her to keep her teammate under control. And then in No Surrender, Johnny Storm disregarded one of Falcon's orders because it wasn't what Reed Richards would've done. Honestly, Sam Wilson just seems to have trouble leading his team (he was only Avengers leader in the first place because of Iron Man's coma). In fact, since he knew Thor was the cancer patient Jane Foster, he almost got her killed by allowing her to continue. Hell, maybe that's why teen Falcon and Patriot didn't stick around after Champion For a Day - they support Sam Wilson and the other Champions don't.

[Assam]

Lol exactly, then he has to nerve to comment this in an appreciation thread is mindboggling. you notice how no one goes to Incredible Hulk or Tony Stark thread to bash a character.

Just ignore them. Along with their other gaps in knowledge, they seem to think that these Trinities are based on in-universe accomplishments. DC's Trinity formed as such through Supes, Bats and Wondy being the three heroes popular enough to maintain their own titles through the fifties and onward while also being internationally recognizable icons, while Marvel's 'Trinity' has historically not even been close to DC's, Thor and Iron Man being characters most of the general public wasn't familiar with till the MCU.

I've said that for a while now. Marvel has a gold mine with these three characters, and even better these are characters DC has almost no counter part to. DC had certain attempts. Blue Beetle would be the closest they had, New Superman, Val Zod would be very distant seconds. But in the end, DC hasn't been able to capture that magic, nor provide anywhere near the same level of push as Marvel has with these characters. That's why it's so important Marvel doesn't muck it up with this fresh s*** revamp, which they slowly seem to be doing.

This is something we've talked about on the DC threads, but if DC actually knew what they were doing, Cass Cain and Jaime Reyes would easily be able to serve as counters to Kamala and Miles.

[Digifiend]

Yeah, before the new rosters were announced, people were definitely expecting Jaime to join the Teen Titans. Instead, his book's cancellation = limbo.