"Why Are Marvel's X-Men Comics So Terrible Right Now?"

**Xelossik** · 08-02-2016, 10:41 AM

Knives

X- fans are loyal but you always have to attract new readers and with due respect to those who disagree believe Marvel has made little effort in the case of mutants.

You're right. But still Marvel sold more and more copies each year. Terrible.
They were using good strategy. It looks like they used this strategy too long (this year is weak)
but there is a possibility that Death of X will be good for mutants

Should they make good books? That's stupid idea
People talk about great or shocking things and they need advertisement.
And You should remember that it is easier to create great stories if there is drama and good explanation later

Askani's Flame:

I didn't know he said that, but here's my thing:

Avengers 0 . That's where he said that.

No matter what happened in Death of X, why is Captain America or ANYONE ELSE being complicit in the unintentional genocide of a group of humans while another prospers and acts above reproach? Even if Cyclops did start a war with the Inhumans over the T-Mist situation, regardless of how it ended you still have innocent lives (who weren't part of the conflict) being decimated and cut short because you don't want to get involved/ step on the toes of the seemingly oppressive group? Nah, sounds like Red Skull is less of the problem than the Royal Family....

That's perfect then. They want You to be angry.
Of course the story will be good when You will say something like that(after reading death of X):
"Now i understand why they did this. that was logical"

I can give You few possibilities:
- broken Avengers don't want to kill one nation to save other nation? Is this really ok?
Avengers gave people and money to help mutants. They created safe heaven for them and they try to create cure. Terrible.
Magneto strategy is as always better - kill them and hope that mist will magically disappear
Sorry i forgot it wont help. No matter how many inhumans Youwill kill, the mist will be still in the air

Cool, I'm glad the mutants that were pilfered from the X-Line get to have moments with their "family" who act complicit in their sickness and death of those they called "friends/family" over the years. Me? I'd rather see the seasoned X-Men act like a family or a semi-unified group rather than what we got.

That was mostly a joke.

I can understand Your point.

**Bl00dwerK** · 08-02-2016, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by RLAAMJR.

EXM and UXM are fine,

This. Despite all the magical fart clouds both books have been really good, imo. I think both Bunn and Lemire have done a great job making a not-so-wanted storyline interesting. I look forward to both books.

**Tazpocalapse** · 08-02-2016, 11:13 AM

I don't think the books are terrible. They lack direction,focus and passion. I can honestly say i can't understand how the X-books can be so dull and bland with so much going on. Maybe it's the tired lazy dull rehashed extinction plots that have been going on for the past 10 years now.I look at this entire year as just a placeholder for the IvX event coming. While the rest of the Marvel U has been able to move past the 9 month gap. The X-men are basically still stuck in it.

We have had to sit back and be patient for a entire year before they reveal how the new status quo came about. I find it hard to care about any of the recent story arcs since it feels like i have walked into the middle of a movie.

The one thing that excites me is seeing more of the missing mutants and what happened to them, at this point it is why i read the books.Marvel stated that the best X-men stories have been with their backs against the wall. These stories have not been horrible but far from the best. I wish X-men 92 had a more serious tone story and art wise.

**MyriVerse** · 08-02-2016, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Carbon Based Stickler

I read some of this earlier and it's a big load of crap. A lot of comic fans seem to have a problem separating their perception from reality. I happen to like Uncanny but I understand that doesn't mean much to anyone. According just to Diamond's numbers though, all 3 X-titles average around a pretty solid 50K a month so they can't be THAT bad.

Stop looking at numbers. They're pretty meaningless.

**Xelossik** · 08-02-2016, 11:24 AM

MyriVerse:
For Marvel? They are important for them

**MyriVerse** · 08-02-2016, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Jumbo

New Uncanny X-Men is either X-Force, or Brotherhood of Magneto. The Extraordinary X-Men is more like a team of X-Men.

Honestly, Uncanny has more of the X-Men feel than Extraordinary does, except being more willing to kill (which X-Men really hasn't had a big deal with for ages). Extraordinary seems like a bunch of novices pretending to be X-Men. And Nightcrawler is just all sorts of horrible.

**MyriVerse** · 08-02-2016, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Xelossik

MyriVerse:
For Marvel? They are important for them

But not for anyone else. And it's never, ever how you judge "terrible" or not.

**Xelossik** · 08-02-2016, 11:49 AM

Then don't buy them.
They will change strategy when sales will go down.

**useridgoeshere** · 08-02-2016, 12:18 PM

X-books sales only look good in the world of lowered expectations. There are fewer books with lower sales. The X-franchise is basically now higher middle tier in terms of sales. They're not blockbusters. Within the first year of a huge re-launch, they're in the mid-40's. Apocalypse War didn't provide a huge boost.

Avengers and inhuman books doing worse isn't a proof point that X-books are doing well.

**Omega Alpha** · 08-02-2016, 12:39 PM