Ya. I get what u are saying. I kind of look at them as bond type movies or mission impossible your gonna have your ups and downs. I dont have clue if they lost money on it. Heck the potter movies didnt all make more than the one prior to it and i dont think anyone considers any of them failures.
Jason Bourne cost $10 mil more to make than Ultimatum, earned less than half as much at the box office overall and failed to break even domestically or internationally. Even if J.B. earned a small profit (which is pretty unlikely), in the eyes of the studio, that's a flop.
Ya your probably right. Im sure they were hoping for at least 200 million domestic. And with damon coming back everything seemed to be lined up for it. It got squashed between beyond and suicide squad and it really didnt have the audience that the studio thought. Interesting. Weird summer.
True thats why TAS2 is considered a flop when it made over 700mil. The one before made more and while having similar budgets they spent more on amrketing for TAS2 supposedly. Then there was also bad word of mouth on the movie and then sony got hacked. The movie wasnt a financial failure like an earlier poster said, it just didnt live up to expectations.
I just think when you are looking at a big special effects superhero movie like asm2 and you are only bringing in 200 million domestic its not good now a days. The days of people saying oh look cap 1 brought in 170 or thor 1 brought in 180 or whatever are gone. Thats why you see them keep adding things and not even making them solo movies. Like winter soldier or civil war. Thor learned that lesson thats why they are throwing in hulk. Where this all ends up beats me.
Not really the same thing, though. The key phrase in my description of Ultimatum vs. J.B. is "earned significantly less." ASM2 earned about $50 mill less than ASM at the box office, with overall earnings in excess of $700 mill, while Jason Bourne earned $235 mill less than Ultimatum at the box office, against an overall take of barely over $200 mill. Huge difference. Also, ASM2 earned almost 3 times as much overall as its production budget (not factoring in marketing because none of us actually have any clue what any of these movies actually spend on marketing) whereas Jason Bourne didn't even double its budget. ASM2 may have been considered a disappointment when measured against expectations, but it was not a "flop" along the same lines that Jason Bourne was.
BvS had a higher budget than all the other movies you listed. It also has one of the highest production budgets for a CBM ($250mm) and of the other $250mm budget CBMs it did the least.
BvS made less then Deadpool stateside. In fact, if you don't count China (which Deadpool didn't open in) it made less than Deadpool worldwide. Deadpool had about 20% of BvS's budget as well.
I think moviegoers are starting to get tired of superhero movies altogether. Marvel made it cool for a while and they capitalized off it, DC tried to get on the train too late, and now the ride is winding down.
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