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    This issue was great.

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    Wawoo I really enjoyed that issue.

    There is not much happening in terms of events, but the characterization is just so good, IMO, very touching.

    So,Steve is saved by the Amazons and the council is trying to interpret all those signs to the point of deciding on choosing a Champion among the amazons to escort Steve and protect the outside world. This is a sacrifice because according to Hippolyta, once you're out of Themyscira, you can't ever come back and you lose your immortality.

    There is this very touching moment between Hippolyta and Philippus who are concerned with Diana not being up to the challenges she'll have to face in the contest, because she is sill reeling from her illness. It is greatly implied that they are lovers.

    The day of the Contest is there, and we get to see the Wonder Woman armor being created by the Amazons.Three contestants remain and those are Sophia, Io and Diana. The last challenge is the bullet and bracelets, to which Sophia fails in deflecting the first bullet. Io manages to stop one but is hurt by the second in the stomach. Finally it is Diana's turn but it happens off-panel. All of this happen to Steve's feeling of powerlessness because "it is not a toy, it kills people" to which he is being told that the amazons know what to do and how to heal their fellow sisters.

    Finally, there is this scene that was very much reminiscent of the origin story from the Lynda Carter TV series between Diana and Hippolyta. We also learn that the Amazons were somehow able to repair Steve's plane and turn it invisible or transluscent, with some unknown material.

    Nicola's art is very strong, conveys the emotion from the characters with details in the facial expressions. The contest is not the focus here, since it only happens for a couple of panels. Ruck pens a very naive, candid and vulnerable Diana and the Amazons are overall shown to be compassionate people who take care for the fallen mortal humans.
    Their compassion goes to the point of "sacrificing" one of their own to guide the mortals back to the world and to protect it, which all of the amazons would have been willing to do.

    Now, about the immortality thingy, there's more to Diana than being just an amazon I think, maybe the Zeurs origin is still valid to some point, I don't know, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

    I would give this issue a solid 4.5/5 for the wonderful art and characterization and also for being reminiscent of a particular moment in the Wonder Woman tv Series. A little bit of nostalgia is good
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    I just skimmed the issue as I have to leave for work in an hour but the art looked gorgeous and I loved that Rucka and Scott brought back the Invisible Jet on the last page! I wonder if this time around it's a product of Amazon science like it was Pre-Crisis? Can't wait to read the full issue when I get home tonight.
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    Loved it. I wish they showed her deflecting the bullets.

    Phil and "Lyta" discussing Diana entering the contest. Phil knows that Diana will win. She must win the tournament everytime she has entered it in the past. It's clear, that the Amazons have some technology/magic as they turned Steve's plane Invisible. They also allow him to take his "Brothers" back home to their families. There is also a funny part where he mentions the clothes they gave him are too big, and he's a big guy, and the Amazons are bigger than him.

    There is a closeup of one Amazon with a Ponytail, red hair. I wonder if that was Artemis. I also think all the Amazons are Superstrong and Superfast. Diana is just the best of them.

    She isn't able to ever return to Themyscira. Maybe this is what has altered her memories. She has "the perfect" with her, and that helps her remember Themysicra, but its fighting with whatever Magic that is keeping her from returning home, so this is she may have some memories that seem to coincide with Azzarrello's version of events.

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    I think I just finished The Perfect issue of Wonder Woman. I'm stunned.

    We have mysterious, not-exactly-present Gods.

    We have "The Gate" which I presume is Doom's Doorway?

    We have The Contest (though I wish the masks were worn.)

    AND we have a non-rebellious Diana...who entered The Contest out of a sense of duty, with her Mother and Queen's blessing...NOT in defiance...even though she was still recovering from her illness.

    We have the invisible jet- perfectly explained.

    We have the costume, and colors- perfectly explained (and getting the see it being made!? BONUS! LOVE.)

    We have loving, compassionate, ?magic/technological?, super-strong Amazons.

    And we have a loving, compassionate Steve Trevor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richalex View Post
    Loved it. I wish they showed her deflecting the bullets.

    Phil and "Lyta" discussing Diana entering the contest. Phil knows that Diana will win. She must win the tournament everytime she has entered it in the past. It's clear, that the Amazons have some technology/magic as they turned Steve's plane Invisible. They also allow him to take his "Brothers" back home to their families. There is also a funny part where he mentions the clothes they gave him are too big, and he's a big guy, and the Amazons are bigger than him...
    Honestly, my first thought was that the clothes must've belonged to murdered sailors, ..when I remembered that Steve is no longer the first man to walk or set foot on Paradise Island. Hippolyta's son, Jason, came before him.
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    I loved it, it was such a feel good Issue and the Amazons were handled with so much respect.
    With the soft lines and the vibrant colours Nicola's art is perfect for an Origin Story, especially one set in Themyscira. I also really learn to like how different all her faces look, too many great artists fail to make them unique.

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    This was such a great issue to read. The art was beautiful.
    The story was so very touching at points. Especially how the story telling (both art and words) conveyed the sadness of Diana never being able to return home....I was actually very sad about this.....

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    I'm glad that complaints about the Amazons "not having technology" are proven false by the fact that the Amazons repaired a high-tech plane and made it even BETTER than what Americans are capable of.

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    Funny. WW#4 not only had two preview threads, but also two SPOILER threads :P

    Guess I'll post my post here then.

    Another okay issue. Brilliant art as usual, but the writing still comes nowhere close.

    I heard Natalie Portman's voice when Hippolyta says: "I did not want it to be so". George Lucas class dialogue. And most of the time it sounds as if the amazons are speaking with the same voice (hive mind style). Trevor is rambling like a little kid.

    Unintentionally funny seeing the amazons toying around with a gun (a bit like the Coke bottle in The gods must be crazy), or when they tinker with the military air craft making it invisible, saying that it "--can be made whole and taught to return to it's home.". Is Rucca channeling the same Wonder Woman from early JLA where she's waving her sword around in public and being over moon over ice cream perhaps? See http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-N0hnQXW6z9...nicecream2.jpg

    Also the competition (winning Steve): with the amazons getting their war on and indulging themselves in a massive fight, which Hippolyta then stops to take things even further... Asking the winners to be shot at... Because apparently things weren't insane enough already. The whole thing resembled the reward of a suicide cult a bit haha.

    While no one dies, least one of them will need a new set of intestines...

    Some strange scenes and dialogue that can't be read out loud (I'm not in the possession of acting skills like Natalie I guess), but nothing that detracts from how nice the art is

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    That said, the snake that bit Diana apparently being a sign of Ares and Steve is said to be the key to something-something. Anyone who knows if the snake perhaps ties into some myth or such? Perhaps the Steve thing is akin to Perez run?
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    This is really well-written with great characterization and reinvention of Diana's origin along with gorgeous artwork.

    My favorite story of the book by far.

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    Eh, I feel that I have read this story already. It is a good rendition of that story, something you could direct a newcomer too. It certainly is better than the Perez rendition of it. He over complicated the origin of Wonder Woman to the point of absurdity. At least their isn't a convoluted plot on how the Amazons picked up a gun, here they just find one of many weapons in the crash.
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    I loved it -- such a beautiful book.

    Really enjoyed the origins of the WW costume and the invisible jet, and the council meeting was a great read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfBaldwin View Post
    I'm glad that complaints about the Amazons "not having technology" are proven false by the fact that the Amazons repaired a high-tech plane and made it even BETTER than what Americans are capable of.



    To be fair, these clearly aren't Azzarello's Amazons from what I can tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enish View Post
    Wawoo I really enjoyed that issue.

    There is not much happening in terms of events, but the characterization is just so good, IMO, very touching.

    So,Steve is saved by the Amazons and the council is trying to interpret all those signs to the point of deciding on choosing a Champion among the amazons to escort Steve and protect the outside world. This is a sacrifice because according to Hippolyta, once you're out of Themyscira, you can't ever come back and you lose your immortality.

    There is this very touching moment between Hippolyta and Philippus who are concerned with Diana not being up to the challenges she'll have to face in the contest, because she is sill reeling from her illness. It is greatly implied that they are lovers.

    The day of the Contest is there, and we get to see the Wonder Woman armor being created by the Amazons.Three contestants remain and those are Sophia, Io and Diana. The last challenge is the bullet and bracelets, to which Sophia fails in deflecting the first bullet. Io manages to stop one but is hurt by the second in the stomach. Finally it is Diana's turn but it happens off-panel. All of this happen to Steve's feeling of powerlessness because "it is not a toy, it kills people" to which he is being told that the amazons know what to do and how to heal their fellow sisters.

    Finally, there is this scene that was very much reminiscent of the origin story from the Lynda Carter TV series between Diana and Hippolyta. We also learn that the Amazons were somehow able to repair Steve's plane and turn it invisible or transluscent, with some unknown material.

    Nicola's art is very strong, conveys the emotion from the characters with details in the facial expressions. The contest is not the focus here, since it only happens for a couple of panels. Ruck pens a very naive, candid and vulnerable Diana and the Amazons are overall shown to be compassionate people who take care for the fallen mortal humans.
    Their compassion goes to the point of "sacrificing" one of their own to guide the mortals back to the world and to protect it, which all of the amazons would have been willing to do.

    Now, about the immortality thingy, there's more to Diana than being just an amazon I think, maybe the Zeurs origin is still valid to some point, I don't know, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

    I would give this issue a solid 4.5/5 for the wonderful art and characterization and also for being reminiscent of a particular moment in the Wonder Woman tv Series. A little bit of nostalgia is good
    Has this ever been a canon thing before?

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